Te Akau

[nomates]

3 minutes ago, Arkham said:

But not unexpected given results over the past three seasons especially with high price flops like Wolverine Hostility etc and am Picking Avantaggia will eventually join that list.    Marsh seems to have picked up quite a few of their former owners too and is selling out most of his syndicates within a week or in advance. 

It is not just expensive flops that IMO has created this slow uptake of horses .

Being a current owner and having talk to quite a few past and current owners there is definitely other reasons .

[Arkham]

2 minutes ago, nomates said:

It is not just expensive flops that IMO has created this slow uptake of horses .

Being a current owner and having talk to quite a few past and current owners there is definitely other reasons .

Yes i have heard same sentiments. 

[BUCKY]

41 minutes ago, nomates said:

It is not just expensive flops that IMO has created this slow uptake of horses .

Being a current owner and having talk to quite a few past and current owners there is definitely other reasons .

Too much ' clipping the ticket '? one of the reasons?

[elo]

A group 1 in South Australia yesterday - now doesn't Te Akau Geegee's Mistruth sound like a good name

 

 

[scooby3051]

10 minutes ago, elo said:

A group 1 in South Australia yesterday - now doesn't Te Akau Geegee's Mistruth sound like a good name

 

 

Absolutely nothing to do with TA in any way but you just wait it will be spruked as one of theirs you just wait and see. In TA it all belongs to them.

[nomates]

1 hour ago, BUCKY said:

Too much ' clipping the ticket '? one of the reasons?

Definitely one of the reasons for the initiated , I had a fair idea about the charges .

My problem lay in other areas that I would never have believed had I not been involved with them .

[nomates]

10 minutes ago, scooby3051 said:

Absolutely nothing to do with TA in any way but you just wait it will be spruked as one of theirs you just wait and see. In TA it all belongs to them.

2 Aussie G1s that have come from outside the venerated system .

 

[scooby3051]

25 minutes ago, nomates said:

2 Aussie G1s that have come from outside the venerated system .

 

Mark Walker yes should have his name associated with them, but still don't know how TA has anything to do with them, other than one of the trainers also trains for TA. What am I missing???

[chiknsmack]

8 hours ago, We're Doomed said:

Basically, its a matter of: "the same trainer that trained that Group 1 winner also trains horses for us, therefore haven't we done well."

Mark Walker is a director of Te Akau Racing, so it's a bit closer a relationship than "the trainer we use". He's part of Te Akau Racing so any winner he trains is a winner for Te Akau, even if it wasn't raised at Te Akau Stud, bought by DCE, or syndicated by KFE.

If DCE raced a horse in Europe on his own and it won a Gr. 1, it'd be a Te Akau Gr. 1 even without being syndicated or being trainer by Walker.

If Walker trains a horse and it wins a Gr. 1, it's a Te Akau Gr. 1 even without having been syndicated or picked by DCE.

[Mindy]

1 hour ago, nomates said:

Definitely one of the reasons for the initiated , I had a fair idea about the charges .

My problem lay in other areas that I would never have believed had I not been involved with them .

Sounds intriguing  

[Maximus]

1 hour ago, scooby3051 said:

Mark Walker yes should have his name associated with them, but still don't know how TA has anything to do with them, other than one of the trainers also trains for TA. What am I missing???

To quote Sgt Schulz ...Nothing! You miss NOTHING!

And TA has nothing to do with the ownership or breeding of Geegee's Mistruth ...other than the trainer of GM trains for them in partnership with Mr Bergerson.

It would have been more correct for the article to talk about a fab afternoon in particular for Mark Walker.

 

 

[Leggy]

4 hours ago, chiknsmack said:

Mark Walker is a director of Te Akau Racing, so it's a bit closer a relationship than "the trainer we use". He's part of Te Akau Racing so any winner he trains is a winner for Te Akau, even if it wasn't raised at Te Akau Stud, bought by DCE, or syndicated by KFE.

If DCE raced a horse in Europe on his own and it won a Gr. 1, it'd be a Te Akau Gr. 1 even without being syndicated or being trainer by Walker.

If Walker trains a horse and it wins a Gr. 1, it's a Te Akau Gr. 1 even without having been syndicated or picked by DCE.

He's a director of TA, or an owner?

[Leggy]

1 hour ago, Leggy said:

He's a director of TA, or an owner?

Owner or co-owner of TA I mean. TA own and run several training establishments don't they in adjunct to their syndicate business and this winner came from one of those. I don't really understand what the issue is.

[Mindy]

7 hours ago, Leggy said:

He's a director of TA, or an owner?

Both. He’s a director and shareholder of TA Stud which owns TA Racing, which runs all of the training establishments. Essentially when you say ‘TA’ it’s DE, KFE and MW. 

[Farnarkler]

14 hours ago, chiknsmack said:

Mark Walker is a director of Te Akau Racing, so it's a bit closer a relationship than "the trainer we use". He's part of Te Akau Racing so any winner he trains is a winner for Te Akau, even if it wasn't raised at Te Akau Stud, bought by DCE, or syndicated by KFE.

If DCE raced a horse in Europe on his own and it won a Gr. 1, it'd be a Te Akau Gr. 1 even without being syndicated or being trainer by Walker.

If Walker trains a horse and it wins a Gr. 1, it's a Te Akau Gr. 1 even without having been syndicated or picked by DCE.

Good try Chick.

[sunlineboy]

I tipped Geegee to win, as I have pretty much throughout his career. However, had I known he moved to TA, I might have dropped him

Just kidding of course.

[Blue]

On 4/25/2026 at 2:26 PM, nomates said:

Jamie was the first to admit where he got it wrong , initially he continued to buy the same type of horses that TA had bought when he was there , which were neater 2/3yo types , but he said it didn't work up in HK , they need to bigger more robust types and those are what he started buying , and they are just starting to come through now .

This is possibly one of the reasons that in the main the standard TA type which works very well here in NZ but doesn't translate to Australian racing , except for the absolute top level horse i.e. Probabeel and Imperitrize . As we know the standard of our 2/3yo racing is in most cases well below the Aus form .

My memory goes back to the Rising Fast and Redcraze days. Since forever Kiwis have made many successful hit and run raids to Aussie. I view the Belle Cheval win in the Vinery as one such raid. However my concern would be that in the past twelve months TA have taken several promising , well bred, high-priced youngsters to their Cranbourne barn which is now to include BC, but in the main they have either broken down (retired) raced poorly or not raced at all. This must be a concern for all connections, apart from the total lack of City winners. Just as Jamie had to come to grips with the type of horse suited to the HK system, perhaps so must TA change their perspective and selection process to horses which are more likely to succeed in Aussie. Their next twelve months performance in Cranbourne must be viewed with some scepticism one would think.

[TurnyTom]

The owner of BC is a very astute businessman and horse owner who very successfully manages his trainers and his horses.

His management of his stock is superb, Mufahsa, Bostonian, Dark Destroyer and now Belle Cheval. He will be very heavily involved in protecting and placing BC to best advantage.

[Farnarkler]

Hope so Tom, truly do.....

[Arkham]

On 4/26/2026 at 11:37 AM, BUCKY said:

Too much ' clipping the ticket '? one of the reasons?

They just seem to love spending other peoples money to boost the profile of DCECNZM

 

[MissJools]

On 4/26/2026 at 8:40 AM, scooby3051 said:

One more tirade from you and you are out, I deleted the unnecessary diatribe, last warning.

 

 

Edited April 28 by scooby3051
Filthy content

[Arkham]

How is it that a syndicator like Kylie Bax can have two winners on one saturday meeting and not get a mention on Love racing but there seems to be a TA story about every five minutes.  

do they pay for all this free advertising or just pressure for it?? 

[scooby3051]

13 hours ago, MissJools said:

 

 

Out you go if that is your attitude enjoy a good break.

[Pete Lane]

12 minutes ago, scooby3051 said:

Out you go if that is your attitude enjoy a good break.

She'll never change Leigh.

[scooby3051]

27 minutes ago, Pete Lane said:

She'll never change Leigh.

So then if she doesn't she wont be back thats her choice.