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Keneperu Open Class - R121

Keneperu

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When are they closing the dogs down as promised?

It's been noticeable lately clubs not getting full fields.  . Or is it a ploy by trainers to not run full fields to help with injuries?. 

Time the three clowns stepped up and closed them down

meomy Open Class - R121

meomy

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7 hours ago, Keneperu said:

When are they closing the dogs down as promised?

It's been noticeable lately clubs not getting full fields.  . Or is it a ploy by trainers to not run full fields to help with injuries?. 

Time the three clowns stepped up and closed them down

Judicial processes are in action - see the other topics on this and the link to it.

 

We live in a democratic Society where we still have Jurisprudence thank goodness for that even if some think they can act above it.

 

Politicians the last 20 or so years have been derailed  by unelected activists and academics who have failed to factor into account multiple basics and need to be held to account.

 

The world, and New Zealand, is a Circular economy not just a handful of overpaid bloated Academics who think they can act outside of the law and provide Government advice without being held to account.

Rules For Some R91 - not quite Grp level

Rules For Some

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19 hours ago, Keneperu said:

When are they closing the dogs down as promised?

It's been noticeable lately clubs not getting full fields.  . Or is it a ploy by trainers to not run full fields to help with injuries?. 

Time the three clowns stepped up and closed them down

New rules in place to allow for smaller fields more then anything, grnz updated rules to allow fields smaller then 6 end of last year. Before, these races for the grades just wouldnt have been run. There are already a lot of litters on the ground. 

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Pyst Maiden - R50

Pyst

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Why is it a ploy to do something to reduce the number of injuries? When dog injury stats are no worse than horse injury stats will Winston be banning both or none?

 

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Ohokaman Open Class - R121

Ohokaman

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Greyhound season ends with 17 deaths, more than 800 dogs injured

11:40 am on 3 August 2025 
 
Greyhound dogs racing on sand track

Photo: 123rf

The greyhound racing industry has ended its 2024/25 season with yet another dog killed, bringing the season's death toll to 17.

Animal welfare group Save Animals From Exploitation (SAFE) said it made it the deadliest year for greyhounds since 2021.

The final fatality was Opawa Justin, a two-year-old greyhound who won his race at Addington Raceway in Christchurch on 31 July before suffering a catastrophic injury.

He fell at the lure and fractured his left elbow. Veterinarians determined the injury was too severe to treat and he was euthanised.

SAFE said the circumstances surrounding his death expose the brutal nature of racing, where even a winning dog is not safe.

"This young dog gave everything on the track, and it cost him his life. No matter how fast they run or how many races they win, greyhounds are always one fall away from tragedy," campaign manager Emma Brodie said.

The total number of dogs killed has increased compared to last season, rising from 13 to 17.

Over the course of the season, more than 800 dogs suffered race-related injuries, including 114 broken bones.

Racing Minister Winston Peters announced a phase-out of the industry in December 2024, with a full ban to come into effect by July 2026. The next season will be greyhound racing's last.

SAFE urged Greyhound Racing New Zealand (GRNZ) to take immediate steps to slow the pace of racing and pour every resource into rehoming efforts.

"This is GRNZ's last opportunity to show they care about the dogs they've profited from. They can either wind down with dignity or be remembered for prolonging suffering until the very end," Brodie said.

In a statement, GRNZ said it was an energetic sport which meant that injuries could happen.

"It's always sad when one of our dogs dies on the track.

"There were 14 greyhound deaths from 34,308 race starts last season. Nine of these were due to injury and five due to a medical event.

"This is a rate of 0.41 deaths per 1000 starters which is once again lower than that for thoroughbred racing of 0.59 per 1000 starters. We would love to have that number be zero.

"It is disingenuous for SAFE to say our people don't care for their dogs. They're treated much better than many privately owned dogs. They have annual vet and dental checkups, kennel audits, top-quality food, and daily exercise.

"In contrast, councils across the country euthanise at least 6000 unloved dogs a year. The SPCA doesn't publish how many dogs it euthanises."

 

 

Idolmite Open Class - R121

Idolmite

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2 hours ago, Palliser said:

How many horses from either gallops or trots die each year while racing ?

Gallops is more, but I'm unsure about harness. I saw an article somewhere, l think penned by GRNZ, that gave some figures for thoroughbreds. 

kizanan Maiden - R50

kizanan

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Its the 800 "injuries" in which I find is stupid reporting. This includes 0, 1, 5 and 10 day precautionary stand downs (where the greyhound isn't actually injured at all) and I believe it makes up nearly 50% of that 800...

Wonder how many stone bruises etc are reported in the horse racing codes ? 

Palliser Open Class - R121

Palliser

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5 hours ago, kizanan said:

Its the 800 "injuries" in which I find is stupid reporting. This includes 0, 1, 5 and 10 day precautionary stand downs (where the greyhound isn't actually injured at all) and I believe it makes up nearly 50% of that 800...

Wonder how many stone bruises etc are reported in the horse racing codes ? 

Excellent point

Rules For Some R91 - not quite Grp level

Rules For Some

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19 hours ago, kizanan said:

Its the 800 "injuries" in which I find is stupid reporting. This includes 0, 1, 5 and 10 day precautionary stand downs (where the greyhound isn't actually injured at all) and I believe it makes up nearly 50% of that 800...

Wonder how many stone bruises etc are reported in the horse racing codes ? 

When were standowns labelled injuries? Whoever made this mistake needs to be questioned.

kizanan Maiden - R50

kizanan

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Unsure, but in efforts to be completely transparent I believe each stand down is what is counted as an "injury". So headlines like you see above are ridiculous and misleading. An injury can also be a broken toenail (fair enough I guess, but again - do we see things like stone bruises etc reported the same way?) 

meomy Open Class - R121

meomy

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Not sure if all the dogs that Council & SPCA euthanized are unloved.

They have not being placing Advertisements in the Daily newspapers as required by law - they use the questionable Facebook which is not compliant with a vast number of Government policies.

We have reliably heard some Councils are not even complying with, or understanding Basic Legislation because they are not versant with wider inherent rights.

 

In regards to Greyhounds, has the number of injuries gone up since they ceased using live bunnies as a Lure?

 

The current lures are after all along the fence.

Perhaps that's another aspect to look into.

 

As an aside, How many people have accidents and injuries in the workplace?

Or for that matter, how many injuries have the likes of SAFE etc had through acting in Questionable manners too?

That helps place matters into proportion.

Palliser Open Class - R121

Palliser

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3 hours ago, meomy said:

Not sure if all the dogs that Council & SPCA euthanized are unloved.

They have not being placing Advertisements in the Daily newspapers as required by law - they use the questionable Facebook which is not compliant with a vast number of Government policies.

We have reliably heard some Councils are not even complying with, or understanding Basic Legislation because they are not versant with wider inherent rights.

 

In regards to Greyhounds, has the number of injuries gone up since they ceased using live bunnies as a Lure?

 

The current lures are after all along the fence.

Perhaps that's another aspect to look into.

 

As an aside, How many people have accidents and injuries in the workplace?

Or for that matter, how many injuries have the likes of SAFE etc had through acting in Questionable manners too?

That helps place matters into proportion.

 

Live bunnies have never ever been used in Greyhound racing, that's an outrageous comment 

Alan Williams Maiden - R50

Alan Williams

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I have a question for anyone in the industry that can tell me of the $8.3 million spent on rehoming last year how much of that was spent on fixing broken Hounds after major track injuries. I see they have estimated $40 million to rehome 1500 dogs that's roughly $26k per dog surly they cant base that on last year's expenditures as not all 1500 dogs will require major surgery. So how did they come up with the final price tag of $40million or is that based on paying trainers and owners $35 per day to care for them until they are rehomed. I've been caring for my 10 dogs since I left the sport without support and there's no way it costs me $35 a day to look after an feed them. It's the owner responsibility to look after and care for all greyhounds racing or not as per our rules so I think it's time for them to step up instead of looking for hand outs from others 

meomy Open Class - R121

meomy

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18 hours ago, Palliser said:

Live bunnies have never ever been used in Greyhound racing, that's an outrageous comment 

They did use live Rabbits/ Hares as a means of Rabbit Pest control in Coursing/ Greyhound racing up until around 1950's, maybe later in some parts of the country.

However both the Dogs and Rabbits were trained in such a manner that they were not  killed by the Greyhounds.

 

It's a known fact NZ had a terrible Rabbit / Hare problem according to some.

Hideous experiments like Calcivirus was introduced in the 1970's which is extremely cruel way to kill any animal.

The later is most unfortunate because wild rabbit meat is known to be a delicacy - yes we have eaten Rabbit many a year ago as most country people did.

Very randomly one sees Rabbit meat for sale in the butchery at major supermarkets.

meomy Open Class - R121

meomy

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@Palliser

 

You may be interested in reading Bill Kingston - Doyen of Greyhound Racing written by Mark ROSANOWSKI in The Press, page 17 , 1 June 1989 as it's well worthy of reading in regards to changes in Greyhounds and how they used to run across the field chasing the hares.

 

An activist tried to get Greyhound racing banned in NZ in the 1950's era too.

Palliser Open Class - R121

Palliser

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On 8/11/2025 at 8:28 PM, meomy said:

@Palliser

 

You may be interested in reading Bill Kingston - Doyen of Greyhound Racing written by Mark ROSANOWSKI in The Press, page 17 , 1 June 1989 as it's well worthy of reading in regards to changes in Greyhounds and how they used to run across the field chasing the hares.

 

An activist tried to get Greyhound racing banned in NZ in the 1950's era too.

That's not official racing 

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