scooby3051 13,196 Report post Posted March 23 All you can do is just Laugh.. and it will continue to be the demise of racing....no point putting up fancy stakes and big days if the tracks are farked, because most of them are....wake up the people who are in charge of this recurring theme... you are quite clearly incompetent and should just leave. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 6,489 Report post Posted March 23 Two bets today, Croupier and Vickezzmargaux and both down the swannee….you have to laugh….. scooby3051 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,597 Report post Posted March 23 NZ racing- the wheel is still turning but the hamster is dead. scooby3051, Ned Kelly and Pam Robson 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 5,254 Report post Posted March 23 And here was me singing the praises of the young lady caretaker after the previous meeting. It is my honest opinion that the people in charge of setting the criteria on how a track is to be presented on a race day, have put in place a policy that is not realistically achievable, particularly when considering our weather patterns. Muzzaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,196 Report post Posted March 23 Horse put its foot in some sort of hole.....not an issue with the actual track surface....why they could not just fix it and move on??? Jockeys were keen to continue...but stipes overuled them. Once again NZTR save all the money in stakes and owners get shafted and are asked to lose money for showing up again. Crow, Baz (NZ) and Palliser 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterbury Man 191 Report post Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, Insider said: And here was me singing the praises of the young lady caretaker after the previous meeting. It is my honest opinion that the people in charge of setting the criteria on how a track is to be presented on a race day, have put in place a policy that is not realistically achievable, particularly when considering our weather patterns. No irrigation for a week. Condor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 5,591 Report post Posted March 23 The commonsense move is to reopen the Hawera noms for Wednesday , they are currently pretty light , and split any fields they have to . But I started with "commonsense", a reasonably redundant practice at NZTR . Muzzaman, chiknsmack, Pam Robson and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,196 Report post Posted March 23 47 minutes ago, Canterbury Man said: No irrigation for a week. Can you not read...it was not the track condition...stop blaming her...there was a hole...but it wont stop you from bleeding on. Insider and Palliser 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterbury Man 191 Report post Posted March 23 1 minute ago, scooby3051 said: Can you not read...it was not the track condition...stop blaming her...there was a hole...but it wont stop you from bleeding on. It doesn't say a hole in the Stewards Report. It says the horse blundered THEN slipped. It was the slip that cancelled the meeting! But I guess the Stewards Report is a pack of lies! brownie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,597 Report post Posted March 23 Course managers/caretakers are doing their best but are totally hamstrung by lack of funding for gear and equipment. NZTR staff levels continue to increase. Nothing will change unless smaller clubs get more track maintenance money. Pam Robson and Canterbury Man 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 238 Report post Posted March 23 1 hour ago, nomates said: The commonsense move is to reopen the Hawera noms for Wednesday , they are currently pretty light , and split any fields they have to . But I started with "commonsense", a reasonably redundant practice at NZTR . Funny they were left open away from Friday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 238 Report post Posted March 23 Just now, gubellini said: Course managers/caretakers are doing their best but are totally hamstrung by lack of funding for gear and equipment. NZTR staff levels continue to increase. Nothing will change unless smaller clubs get more track maintenance money. All clubs have renovation work funded through NZTR as well as a period of time to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 238 Report post Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Canterbury Man said: No irrigation for a week. Irrigation shouldn't be used to change the state of the track but to provide a safe surface whatever that it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterbury Man 191 Report post Posted March 23 13 minutes ago, Crow said: All clubs have renovation work funded through NZTR as well as a period of time to do so. Last year there was $4.9m allocated. To quote the NZTR 2024 Annual Report - Only $200k was capex - the rest went on AWT maintenance and the Awapuni Upgrade. The previous four years the fund averaged $1m per annum - no where near enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,524 Report post Posted March 23 2 hours ago, nomates said: The commonsense move is to reopen the Hawera noms for Wednesday , they are currently pretty light , and split any fields they have to . But I started with "commonsense", a reasonably redundant practice at NZTR . They were already left open on Friday until Monday 9am. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,196 Report post Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Canterbury Man said: It doesn't say a hole in the Stewards Report. It says the horse blundered THEN slipped. It was the slip that cancelled the meeting! But I guess the Stewards Report is a pack of lies! I know from a couple of riders there what happened they would have no reason to make it up...CM or is it Trojan or is it CS hard to know...I am sure you must confuse yourself too having so many conversations with yourself and all your made up characters...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterbury Man 191 Report post Posted March 23 28 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: I know from a couple of riders there what happened they would have no reason to make it up...CM or is it Trojan or is it CS hard to know...I am sure you must confuse yourself too having so many conversations with yourself and all your made up characters...... Why do you insist on making everything to be about identities? So if you did talk to a couple of Jockeys did they want to continue? Why wasn't the rabbit hole reason mentioned in the Stewards Report where the emphasis was on the recovery slip? Instead on focusing on who knows what or who is right why not focus on the issues? dock leaf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palliser 1,276 Report post Posted March 23 4 hours ago, scooby3051 said: Horse put its foot in some sort of hole.....not an issue with the actual track surface....why they could not just fix it and move on??? Jockeys were keen to continue...but stipes overuled them. Once again NZTR save all the money in stakes and owners get shafted and are asked to lose money for showing up again. Yep I heard that also, and found it extremely weird they didn't fill the hole and even get some Turf cut out to fit. Also don't they do track inspections pre races anymore ? dock leaf and Pam Robson 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterbury Man 191 Report post Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, Palliser said: Yep I heard that also, and found it extremely weird they didn't fill the hole and even get some Turf cut out to fit. Also don't they do track inspections pre races anymore ? Don't you think it's a bit weird that a rabbit digs a deep hole in the middle of a track? Especially when there would have been a lot of activity on the track during the week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,232 Report post Posted March 23 4 hours ago, scooby3051 said: Can you not read...it was not the track condition...stop blaming her...there was a hole...but it wont stop you from bleeding on. Surely if there was a hole that would be down to track maintenance? Would there not be a pre-meeting inspection of the track? dock leaf and Canterbury Man 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,275 Report post Posted March 23 No hole mentioned in the stipe report . Following the running of this event, Riders’ representatives, Stewards and the Track Manager examined the area of the track where UNUSUAL NUGGET had blundered. This revealed a significant slip mark where the gelding had endeavoured to retain its footing after blundering. A meeting was convened with all riders and after deliberating, the decision was made by the Stewards to abandon the meeting due to safety concerns. Canterbury Man and Insider 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,790 Report post Posted March 23 It is just where we are at No cyclone, no extensive widespread storm, no monsoon weather Just maybe Messara was right? Who knows, all too hard, they can’t get Riccarton right so where to? Lost Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 17 Report post Posted March 23 54 minutes ago, Blue said: Surely if there was a hole that would be down to track maintenance? Would there not be a pre-meeting inspection of the track? fudge doing a track inspection to hard, same club rolled dice last year with not watering and got away with it, guess they got snake eyes this time, have a look over last 5yrs to see how many times this venue has had problems, not poking stick at anybody but facts don't lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,196 Report post Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Canterbury Man said: Don't you think it's a bit weird that a rabbit digs a deep hole in the middle of a track? Especially when there would have been a lot of activity on the track during the week. Who said it was a rabbit hole??? You said that not anyone else....it was an old possible post hole...and you would need to ask the stewards why they did not mention it, and yes the jocks were keen to keep going. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,196 Report post Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Blue said: Surely if there was a hole that would be down to track maintenance? Would there not be a pre-meeting inspection of the track? It only appeared after a horse stepped in it. Gruff and Canterbury Man 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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