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[Palliser 1,292]

Was hoping someone within the industry or NZGRA would be able to enlighten us on what the plan if any is on fighting the governments plan to end it all in 19 months and counting. The Logistics involved to stop doesn't bare thinking about.

I just hope the NZGRA don't sit on their hands like they usually do and leave it till the last minute.

I'm sure this time it's not the case and they are hard out preparing or creating the plan out of this balls up they have only themselves to blame.

[Lowdown 316]

https://www.dia.govt.nz/Resource-material-Our-Policy-Advice-Areas-Racing-Policy#submissions

 

Some interesting reading here (including the links) for those who haven't found this. 

Gives an outline of the timeline of the decision making, and the meetings/conversations had in parliament etc. 

Interesting they are mostly banging on about injury rates which is just a misinformed, blown out of proportion statistic, greyhounds are pro athletes that get 'injury' stand downs all the time for as little as a few days for minor injuries, 'sand toe' or a skinned pad etc.

And I also read in there somewhere that, basically, one of their main concerns is that they'll never be able to appease the animal activists...

[Rules For Some 182]

On 1/6/2025 at 4:20 PM, Palliser said:

Was hoping someone within the industry or NZGRA would be able to enlighten us on what the plan if any is on fighting the governments plan to end it all in 19 months and counting. The Logistics involved to stop doesn't bare thinking about.

I just hope the NZGRA don't sit on their hands like they usually do and leave it till the last minute.

I'm sure this time it's not the case and they are hard out preparing or creating the plan out of this balls up they have only themselves to blame.

Looks like the Ex National Track Curator, Jake Bell has his plans sorted. Embarassing behaviour.

 

[meomy 1,077]

On 1/6/2025 at 4:20 PM, Palliser said:

Was hoping someone within the industry or NZGRA would be able to enlighten us on what the plan if any is on fighting the governments plan to end it all in 19 months and counting. The Logistics involved to stop doesn't bare thinking about.

I just hope the NZGRA don't sit on their hands like they usually do and leave it till the last minute.

I'm sure this time it's not the case and they are hard out preparing or creating the plan out of this balls up they have only themselves to blame.

See our other post on this - utilise that information including that able to be sourced that the likes of Aaron Cross and Problem Gambling have instigated and counter claim it.

Equally important is the role Women have undertaken in this sector since WW2 and their rights in Society.

 

By the way, dogs run around in circles quite freely without getting injured, they know instinctively not to overdo it to get dizzy to,  so why the push for Straight Tracks ?

Dogs are also encouraged as part of Behaviour training to walk in a circle and get praised upon completion.

 

What next, Dog Shows banned because they do tricks and hurdles?

Sheep shows been banned because of there natural abilities?

These activists need to be held to account like they have been doing in the UK and Australia, look it up and follow it up including to Politicians who need a wake up call about legislation.

We all have a right to inclusion in society or it's a breach of Magna Carta.

 

[speed 12]

imo, all participants, their family & friends, suppliers & staff should be emailing, texting , their local mp

pointing out the cost of the proposed ban.

eg: redundancy payments, loss of racing tax, unemployment payments

[Palliser 1,292]

I see Karen Walsh has sold Thrilling Alfie on behalf of Gary Harding. Ironically a Syndicate called "Till the End" have purchased it. Up until today it had raced 4 times for 3 wins and a placing.

Ironically and sadly it ran into trouble and broke down failing to finish in a 4 dog field

[Hedley Jordan 163]

https://www.change.org/p/reverse-the-ban-on-greyhound-racing-in-new-zealand?recruiter=1226607819&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

[Alan Williams 15]

I see there are tee shirts being worn by some handlers saying stop the lies can someone enlighten me on what the lies are. I've been given the latest brack down on dog injuries since Mr Peter's made his announcement its not good reading around 35 major fractures to date that's taken from stipes report not lies

[Alan Williams 15]

Very sad to see the new sign on the front of the 295 boxes at Addington. I don't believe doing things like this is going to slow up the process all its going to do is add fuel to the fire I asked the question a few weeks ago if someone could enlighten me on what the lies have been. Not one person has come back with an answer so are they lies or rumors we now that some of the people in the game is very good at that 

[Alan Williams 15]

Sorry I meant some people in the game are good at that (my bad) 

[Idolmite 3,601]

44 minutes ago, Alan Williams said:

Very sad to see the new sign on the front of the 295 boxes at Addington. I don't believe doing things like this is going to slow up the process all its going to do is add fuel to the fire I asked the question a few weeks ago if someone could enlighten me on what the lies have been. Not one person has come back with an answer so are they lies or rumors we now that some of the people in the game is very good at that 

What does the sign say?

[Alan Williams 15]

STOP THE LIES   STOP THE BAN 

[Palliser 1,292]

Surely they have a flawless strategy to oppose the ban.

Strong words will do absolutely nothing.

[Pickel 47]

15 hours ago, Alan Williams said:

Very sad to see the new sign on the front of the 295 boxes at Addington. I don't believe doing things like this is going to slow up the process all its going to do is add fuel to the fire I asked the question a few weeks ago if someone could enlighten me on what the lies have been. Not one person has come back with an answer so are they lies or rumors we now that some of the people in the game is very good at that 

from SPCA website,

"SPCA is opposed to the euthanasia of healthy and behaviourally sound companion animals in New Zealand."

and no mention of euthanasia in their Annual Report

[Rules For Some 182]

On 2/17/2025 at 8:46 PM, Palliser said:

Surely they have a flawless strategy to oppose the ban.

Strong words will do absolutely nothing.

My understanding is there will be a legal challenge by GRNZ with a very high profile lawyer who has won some decisions in the past regarding unfair govt legislation based on half truths/lies.

There is some backing here for a case but I am unsure how far it will actually go or how strong this argument would hold up in court for the Greyhoud Industry.

[Susan 8]

They have until October to put a legal challenge.Before that I think is submissions.

[Palliser 1,292]

Why aren't they out trying to get the general public behind them. For crying out loud the Green Party are pretty insignificant. 

But like always those in the industry seem to just meander along letting things take their course, which is going down the path of oblivion. Once it's gone ... It's GONE 

This industry has never dealt to the ratbags, an example being one who became president of a greyhound club, just beggars belief. No wonder perception of this industry is so clouded.

[mikenz 1,311]

1 hour ago, Palliser said:

Why aren't they out trying to get the general public behind them. For crying out loud the Green Party are pretty insignificant. 

But like always those in the industry seem to just meander along letting things take their course, which is going down the path of oblivion. Once it's gone ... It's GONE 

This industry has never dealt to the ratbags, an example being one who became president of a greyhound club, just beggars belief. No wonder perception of this industry is so clouded.

One wonders if they have stopped breeding any more.

If they can do that successfully then maybe we could do same scheme for human beings.

[meomy 1,077]

On 5/17/2025 at 11:23 AM, Rules For Some said:

My understanding is there will be a legal challenge by GRNZ with a very high profile lawyer who has won some decisions in the past regarding unfair govt legislation based on half truths/lies.

There is some backing here for a case but I am unsure how far it will actually go or how strong this argument would hold up in court for the Greyhoud Industry.

Court systems are constantly clogged up with the same names and appeals sad to say so who knows how long any case would take to get to Court for Jurisprudence.

The world needs more proactive people to hold academics to account who merely copy paste others Research without looking at their own contributions to the cause of problems in society.

Problems which have disrupted the Status Quo Harmony in society since learning how to use a computer and the internet at schools in the 1980's exploded.

 

 

As recent example of yet again flawed research practices, Academics wanting taxpayer funding through MBIE / Universities are blaming cats for killing birds on beaches and in reserves.

A recent research paper said 4 cats were caught on camera at Omaha over a lengthy period and one had a sniff at the birds nest eggs and went on it's way.

The eggs never hatched so they are blaming the cat.

Perhaps those people can look in their own back yard how their own human scents and footprints around birds nesting areas causes harm to birds.

 

How many other flawed Scientists papers are used to advise Governments within decision making?

 

Frankly we feel in the last 30 or so years of governance in New Zealand has gone down the gurgler for what a Government should be doing.

 

There's far too much reliance on the internet and a lack of meaningful inclusion of a wider cross section of those impacted on, including in Rural New Zealand.

 

Don't start us on mass migration academics who fail to cross reference laws or geography who are new to New Zealand and the use of false documents and Qualifications.

 

How many have ever attended a Race Meeting?

 

Why is it that Asian countries are where the demise of Racing and closures of Racecourses started?

Think about the bigger picture folks in the background. 

[meomy 1,077]

5 hours ago, Palliser said:

Why aren't they out trying to get the general public behind them. For crying out loud the Green Party are pretty insignificant. 

But like always those in the industry seem to just meander along letting things take their course, which is going down the path of oblivion. Once it's gone ... It's GONE 

This industry has never dealt to the ratbags, an example being one who became president of a greyhound club, just beggars belief. No wonder perception of this industry is so clouded.

Don't the Green Party support the use of Medicinal cannabis?

Meanwhile what political party have those been potentially associated with who have been caught using such substances around Greyhounds?

Aren't the Greens big on Rehabilitation programs for criminal offenses, including the use of unlawful substances?

 

There's always a flip side...

[Palliser 1,292]

22 minutes ago, meomy said:

Don't the Green Party support the use of Medicinal cannabis?

Meanwhile what political party have those been potentially associated with who have been caught using such substances around Greyhounds?

Aren't the Greens big on Rehabilitation programs for criminal offenses, including the use of unlawful substances?

 

There's always a flip side...

Some clowns used meth on their racing greyhounds. How they were never banned for life again beggars belief