NZC Cricket Hall of Fame

[SingaporeSling 80]

NZ Cricket Hall Of Fame

Okay, for those Cricket nuts on here - who is in the inaugural eleven for the new NZ Cricket Hall Of Fame? 

It is both Men/Women, across all formats (Test, ODI, and T20), and not current players (or those who played in the past 5 years). Selected based on performance, leadership, influence and character.

They have indicated the first eleven are from WW11 onwards to current time (would have to have retired in 2019 to qualify so no Ross Taylor for example). 

The pre WW11 means Stewie Dempster is not in the mix (Averaged 65 in his 10 tests from 1930 to 1933), or I suspect Martin Donnelly (Averaged 52 in 7 tests 1937 - 1949), and not sure on Jack Cowie (45 Test Wickets at 21 1937 -1949)

I will make a start - as there are 3 NZers in the ICC Hall of Fame, safe to assume they will be in the NZ Hall of Fame as well, so Hadlee, Hockley, and Crowe.

Leaves eight more? 

Needless to say, many played in an era we are not familiar with, or when Cricket (especially women’s) was not so well-broadcast. Makes it hard.

Here are my eight (very likely to change my mind in the days ahead)

• Daniel Vettori
• Bert Sutcliffe
• Haidee Tiffeen
• Emily Drumm
• Brendon McCullum
• John Wright
• Jackie Lord (Bowler from late 60s/ early 70s, Averaged 19 in 10 Tests, and Averaged 12.72 in 10 ODIs)
• Ian Smith

Means quite a few missing out like Walter Hadlee, Sara McGlashan, Shane Bond, Nathan Astle, Stephen Fleming etc. 

Also feels like I have missed a whole era in my picks. 

Anyone else got a guess?

[Maximus 722]

To be considered, among the men anyway, in no particular order

Brendon McCullum
Daniel Vettori
John F Reid
Lance Cairns
Chris Cairns

John Wright
Bruce Edgar
Geoff Howarth
Ewen Chatfield
Glenn Turner
Bevan Congdon
 

 

[mikenz 1,255]

Why have a certain number, ? for me, Hadlee, Crowe  Williamson McCullum and  Turner, 100 first class centuries is no mean achievement, those 5 probably stand above others then there are so many from different eras that could all make it  so do you just have 6 more just to make 11, if you do that then may as well have a hundred as they are on a similar level, just my thoughts.

[SingaporeSling 80]

Yep, agree with you both on Glenn Turner being likely in the initial eleven.

Mike, I assume the eleven (at first) is just an obvious number for a inaugural Cricket Hall of Fame. Others will be added as time goes on. 

Also no idea if they feel the need to balance the men and women in todays PC world.

[mikenz 1,255]

29 minutes ago, SingaporeSling said:

 

Also no idea if they feel the need to balance the men and women in todays PC world.

Personally I find the word batter is wrong too, Cricket is not Baseball.

[Uriah Heap 499]

I've not included any further women in my list, although two currently playing (Kerr and Devine) will go close in future.

I also managed to  have a batting order of sorts, which has a bit of depth about it.

 

1. Glenn Turner

2. Bert Sutcliffe

3. Debbie Hockley

4. Martin Crowe

5. Bevan Congdon

6. Brendon McCullum

7. John Reid

8. Ian Smith

9. Daniel Vettori

10. Richard Hadlee

11. Shane Bond

Howzat?

[SingaporeSling 80]

and the “First Eleven” are

• Bert Sutcliffe
• John Reid
• Jackie Lord
• Trish McKelvey
• Glenn Turner
• Sir Richard Hadlee
• Debbie Hockley
• Martin Crowe
• Emily Drumm
• Daniel Vettori
• Brendon McCullum

[Maximus 722]

On 12/1/2024 at 3:13 PM, mikenz said:

Personally I find the word batter is wrong too, Cricket is not Baseball.

With you 100%... on both your recent posts.

• Dumb to have an X1 unless it's a side that might actually play..(ie from the same or adjacent eras)... why not a Twelth Man (just as much a part of cricket tradition, isn't it?) ...and the PC/woke dingbats in NZC (the ones who've gone all Maorified with TVNZ to tell us that venues are now apparently Otautahi, Whanganui-a-Tara and Kirikiriroa - the TVNZ graphics don't even say Christchurch, Wellington and Hamilton as well! 
• Dumb to make it both genders - too limiting and too PC.
• Still, it was good to see some of our greats at the Basin Reserve, Turner, Paddles et al.
• The use of the word 'batter' is also irritating to poor Max - I know it 'makes sense' in that it crosses both mens and womens matches, but ... back in the day, we used to call 'so-and-so a "great bat" (or a a very bad one in Max's own case (on account of his left-handed, walk-away-to-leg against the quicks and try to smack 'em anywhere between third man and cover-point).  LOL

[mikenz 1,255]

30 minutes ago, Maximus said:

With you 100%... on both your recent posts.

• Dumb to have an X1 unless it's a side that might actually play..(ie from the same or adjacent eras)... why not a Twelth Man (just as much a part of cricket tradition, isn't it?) ...and the PC/woke dingbats in NZC (the ones who've gone all Maorified with TVNZ to tell us that venues are now apparently Otautahi, Whanganui-a-Tara and Kirikiriroa - the TVNZ graphics don't even say Christchurch, Wellington and Hamilton as well! 
• Dumb to make it both genders - too limiting and too PC.
• Still, it was good to see some of our greats at the Basin Reserve, Turner, Paddles et al.
• The use of the word 'batter' is also irritating to poor Max - I know it 'makes sense' in that it crosses both mens and womens matches, but ... back in the day, we used to call 'so-and-so a "great bat" (or a a very bad one in Max's own case (on account of his left-handed, walk-away-to-leg against the quicks and try to smack 'em anywhere between third man and cover-point).  LOL

Personally just at the moment i find many aspects of NZ Cricket at the top level irritating.

Glen Turner played 6 days a week when jn County champ so did plenty of time at the crease developing, 20 20 doesn't do that.

[eljay 1,784]

I know your own age does of course have a bearing on your selections, but dont forget Bob Blair