Here we go again

[Chestnut 3,365]

11 minutes ago, tripple alliance said:

Sorry but rubbish when any doubts that may still linger are finally  extinguished Ellerslie is a visually beautiful surface, the horses seem to flow , your supposed (doubtful) negative camber would  soon be compensated for by Jockeys , not an issue 

Sometimes horses don't want to go where Jockey's think they should.    You are dealing with two individuals with a brain that wants to do what they want to do.    Often with a camber differentiation horses can change feet or skip a bit, just a natural reaction to possible falling ground below them.

Slipping on a track is something that is avoidable.   It's about rolling and brushing to ensure any loose soil is condensed and any new growth is worn.    Going into Summer we get warm and wet days so it's about compensating for that.   I'm so tired of hearing and seeing these days of meetings getting abandoned due to slipping.   Sort out what type of track you want to prepare for Saturday and stick to it.  

Ellerslie also has to ensure that their special grass is worn, it's not rocket science ...  

[chevy86 2,858]

2 hours ago, Maximus said:

Think I've had enough of Guy's constant pen twiddling and reading from the laptop .. having just discovered that (Insert Winner's Name) has now won (Insert # of wins) from (Insert # of race starts) ..."
There''s no on-screen 'chemistry'/ between him n Em at all at all at all IMO

Suggestion for Trackside: keep showing the visuals of the race wot's just finished instead of cutting back to the Dullsville Duo and let one or both of them talk over the visuals if they must.

100%--classic case of someone who has no "Historical" knowledge of racing. (obviously a long-term racing truant). Not like Gruff and me who were hanging out in TABs in school uniform and pleading "Over 21 " status.  I'd love there to be a male presenter who is not mumbling, queer, "looking", lost in the long grass, woke, or simply reading off a lap-top.  Always thought Andre Neill was a pretty good operator. JMO--frustrated plus.

 

Like many I'm pretty tetchy even though I didn't have a horse in today. Have suffered abandonments before however.

[chevy86 2,858]

2 hours ago, nomates said:

2 hours ago, Pak Star said:

Apparently the meeting moves to Matamata Wednesday. 

The Matamata meeting that would have run Saturday moved to Tauranga.

 

So racing at Tauranga on the 5th and the 9th? Seems major track loading with their obvious fragility.

[SameOld 22]

And hats off to Matamata losing their cup day to accomodate 

[We're Doomed 5,551]

1 hour ago, Insider said:

There’s only one thing wrong. The shape of the place, the negative camber into the straight doesn’t make it fair for all runners. 
 

And it's in Auckland where hardly anyone is interested in the races anyhow.

[We're Doomed 5,551]

What about the poor bloody Aussie, comes all the way to NZ, gets balloted out of the big race and then the meeting gets wiped out altogether.

And the poor Southerners, must be wondering why they didn't just stay south and race at Riccarton, or Timaru.

[We're Doomed 5,551]

I just watched the replay, the horse that dropped its rider was green from the moment they jumped. It hardly seemed to slip, just didn't want to race. And why were they verti whatevering just past the finishing post when the fall happened at the top of the straight?

[Insider 4,786]

23 minutes ago, We're Doomed said:

And it's in Auckland where hardly anyone is interested in the races anyhow.

Percentage wise certainly. 
Give me the provinces any day. 
 

[Insider 4,786]

59 minutes ago, chevy86 said:

So racing at Tauranga on the 5th and the 9th? Seems major track loading with their obvious fragility.

Surely they can ship one of the days to the nearby track of Te Aroha. 
It’s a beautiful setting, especially for picnics etc or at least it was the last time that I was there. 

[Insider 4,786]

6 minutes ago, We're Doomed said:

I just watched the replay, the horse that dropped its rider was green from the moment they jumped. It hardly seemed to slip, just didn't want to race. And why were they verti whatevering just past the finishing post when the fall happened at the top of the straight?

I think that there may have been two incidents but the one you are referring too, wasn’t the problem that caused the abandonment. 
 

[nomates 4,967]

12 minutes ago, Insider said:

Percentage wise certainly. 
Give me the provinces any day. 
 

Unless it's Trentham before 2000 .

[nomates 4,967]

9 minutes ago, Insider said:

Surely they can ship one of the days to the nearby track of Te Aroha. 
It’s a beautiful setting, especially for picnics etc or at least it was the last time that I was there. 

On a good day all the contractors trying to fix it do have picnics , thankyou .

[mikenz 1,243]

Thinking of Auckland, I think they have to win the Ranfurly Shield to stay in the NPC,  just like racing for the number of people there it certainly is disconnected with the rest of NZ, ie the provinces.

Interestingly Hawkes Bay played Auckland in Napier today, now I know Rugbys not what it use to be but why have both events at same time ?

[Palliser 1,131]

4 hours ago, Maximus said:

Think I've had enough of Guy's constant pen twiddling and reading from the laptop .. having just discovered that (Insert Winner's Name) has now won (Insert # of wins) from (Insert # of race starts) ..."
There''s no on-screen 'chemistry'/ between him n Em at all at all at all IMO

Suggestion for Trackside: keep showing the visuals of the race wot's just finished instead of cutting back to the Dullsville Duo and let one or both of them talk over the visuals if they must.

Unfortunately it's boring and embarrassing. Guy just reads the AI generated form the TAB website. Entain have no bloody idea.

[We're Doomed 5,551]

25 minutes ago, Insider said:

I think that there may have been two incidents but the one you are referring too, wasn’t the problem that caused the abandonment. 
 

You are obviously correct. Being at the races means you really don't know what is going on. Much better to stay at home and watch it on TV. Zero atmosphere at HB today anyhow, but we did only get to see one race.

I might try Woodville tomorrow.

[mikenz 1,243]

Strange as it is Woodvilles next meeting ain't scheduled until July 13, what are odds though of picking up another day at least  before that ?

[Insider 4,786]

14 minutes ago, mikenz said:

Strange as it is Woodvilles next meeting ain't scheduled until July 13, what are odds though of picking up another day at least  before that ?

I'll go for at least three days, maybe more....but I am not in charge

[nomates 4,967]

Just now, Insider said:

I'll go for at least three days, maybe more....but I am not in charge

Even if that is the case , nothing till July the 13th is an effing disgrace , great track that gives even racing and always pulls a decent crowd .

Sums up a lot for me .

[We're Doomed 5,551]

15 minutes ago, mikenz said:

Strange as it is Woodvilles next meeting ain't scheduled until July 13, what are odds though of picking up another day at least  before that ?

Surely the CD's track of the year has to be Woodville or Waverley. They have taken up so much of the slack from the no-hopers.

[nomates 4,967]

The scary thing for me is what I posted earlier , everyone of their so called "STRATEGIC" tracks has had multiple issues since this retrenching of tracks began , when do they wake up and say Houston we have a problem . 

[Tauhei Notts 1,444]

Actually I think Matamata is a better course to run a Group One 1600 than Hastings.

At Matamata the run to the first turn, over 1600 metres, is the longest straight run of any course in New Zealand.

Okay, the straight is not all that long, but it is not a Rotorua or Moonee Valley dash. 

[Houlahan's Dream 614]

26 minutes ago, Tauhei Notts said:

Actually I think Matamata is a better course to run a Group One 1600 than Hastings.

At Matamata the run to the first turn, over 1600 metres, is the longest straight run of any course in New Zealand.

Okay, the straight is not all that long, but it is not a Rotorua or Moonee Valley dash. 

That is a very good point. I presume they redraw? Either way that must be - 450 metres to that turn yes? Hope it rains a bit between now and weds....

[Insider 4,786]

18 minutes ago, Tauhei Notts said:

Actually I think Matamata is a better course to run a Group One 1600 than Hastings.

At Matamata the run to the first turn, over 1600 metres, is the longest straight run of any course in New Zealand.

Okay, the straight is not all that long, but it is not a Rotorua or Moonee Valley dash. 

Is it longer (the back straight) than Otaki?

1) I doubt it, proof please.

2) Trentham has a long back straight (like Otaki) but with the big sweeping bend and the long front straight Muttamutta might win over the two beautiful courses down this way. Proof please  

Oh I nearly forgot!

Based on your our idea of a long run down the back straight why has Auckland taken the Gr 1 off Otaki

Does it make sense to you?

Liz

 

 

[Maximus 673]

5 hours ago, mikenz said:

Southee will play a blinder, he's in now.

By 'blinder' I assume you mean he will bat like he's blind 
faced 6 balls scored 2 runs

[Idolmite 3,154]

8 hours ago, wph said:

1000% agree Nomates. 

Typical corporate bullshit speak 

"HUGE logistics" he said on more than one occasion.... Not for people who know what they are doing. 

This corporate speak is on ALL forms of government and has infiltrated all forms of sporting institutions as well.

They seemed to make everything work okay, here in New Zealand AND without the fancy words, over 100 years ago. Maybe they should ditch the computers, dig out the old paper files written with a pencil (or maybe a quill) and replicate what they did back then