Hello Youzain's 'friends' will find this interesting...........

[Dopey]

On 4/13/2025 at 10:16 PM, Dopey said:

Danehill Dancer and Kodiac close genetically…

Not sure she could have won much better at Te Aroha today.

@Nerula

[Nerula]

Yes Dopey, Dont want to sound arrogant but been expecting a run like that. The Hellos seem like very fast horses. Those with one yet to race have got something to look forward to.

Seem to be all bays like the sire with a big back end

[Dopey]

On 6/2/2025 at 10:29 PM, Nerula said:

Yes Dopey, Dont want to sound arrogant but been expecting a run like that. The Hellos seem like very fast horses. Those with one yet to race have got something to look forward to.

Seem to be all bays like the sire with a big back end

No markings 

[Nerula]

Looks so strong, Got the big bum and a chest already. Might be an earlier Hello than whats gone before. I think that what we have seen the Hello's are going to be serious 3yo's.

[Nerula]

Our girl at about last September

[Dopey]

5 hours ago, Nerula said:

Our girl at about last September

Well up behind then.. plenty of improvement there

good one 

[Dopey]

15 hours ago, Nerula said:

Looks so strong, Got the big bum and a chest already. Might be an earlier Hello than whats gone before. I think that what we have seen the Hello's are going to be serious 3yo's.

HY has provided some strength in front that not normally provided compared to most from the family. Per Incanto mum so speed but not early - this colt has some real class about him. I’ll be racing a good slice. 

[Nerula]

Some old English gent said famously, "No-one with a yearling in the back paddock ever committed suicide".

Depending how things play out i would be interested in your boy. Feel free to PM me if you like. Neil M

[scooby3051]

On 6/4/2025 at 10:38 PM, Dopey said:

No markings 

Nice strong type good luck with him.

[stodge]

While at Sandown yesterday, I happened to see the first from Beverley and the winner was LADY YOUMZAIN.

She bolted up by five lengths on soft ground in a 1000m juvenile maiden and looked impressive though not sure what she beat.

HELLO YOUMZAIN is in his second season up here - his best in England is ELECTROLYTE (out of a Royal Applause mare) who hasn't been seen since flopping in a trial for the Commonwealth Cup at Ascot at the end of April. He's still with Wathnan so I can only presume there's been a problem of some sort.

His best juvenile so far is ART LOVER (out of an Elusive City mare) who won a maiden at Ffos Las but was well held in a Doncaster nursery last week.

Further afield, he has GODSPEED (out of a Storming Home mare) in France who was fourth in the Rothschild at Deauville only a length or so behind subsequent Matron winner FALLEN ANGEL which is very good form as well as a couple of other French handicappers.

 

[Dopey]

Places To Be won race 3 at Taupo on debut as well just recently as well… impressive start to her 3yold career

https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/54768/4/Race-Detail.aspx

 

[Dopey]

On 6/2/2025 at 10:29 PM, Nerula said:

Yes Dopey, Dont want to sound arrogant but been expecting a run like that. The Hellos seem like very fast horses. Those with one yet to race have got something to look forward to.

Seem to be all bays like the sire with a big back end

Good luck tomorrow… good field but bigger things in store hopefully @Nerula

[Nerula]

Sorry D late to respond but I've been dealing with health issues. Not fun!

I thought Billy out rode us but trainer said our girl trained up for longer races and when winner kicked she was flat footed. We go on to a 1400 then the Guineas I understand.

Vey firmly believe the HY will be Autumn horses though

[stodge]

A very interesting debutante in the juvenile fillies' Maiden at Newmarket last weekend I've mentioned over on my main thread.

While I think the second could be very good, the third and just a head behind was ARETI, a daughter of Hello Youmzain out of a Sepoy mare called Baileys Showgirl whose previous three progeny have raced 26 times between them without winning and, without being rude, are useless.

The second dam is a War Chant mare called Tanguista and the dam is a half to a decent type called Tribune who was a listed class filly in France some years ago and is also related to Buthela, a Group 2 winning filly in 2019.

ARETI could be anything - I doubt we'll see her again on greass this season but she could be given a winter outing on the synthetics. You'd think she would get a mile but possibly not much further.

[Dopey]

On 10/17/2025 at 9:38 AM, Nerula said:

Sorry D late to respond but I've been dealing with health issues. Not fun!

I thought Billy out rode us but trainer said our girl trained up for longer races and when winner kicked she was flat footed. We go on to a 1400 then the Guineas I understand.

Vey firmly believe the HY will be Autumn horses though

Any race at Rotorua on the heavy 8 - move on.

[Dopey]

On 10/17/2025 at 7:38 AM, Nerula said:

Sorry D late to respond but I've been dealing with health issues. Not fun!

I thought Billy out rode us but trainer said our girl trained up for longer races and when winner kicked she was flat footed. We go on to a 1400 then the Guineas I understand.

Vey firmly believe the HY will be Autumn horses though

nice win yesterday @Nerula ... they are only 3 once so good luck in the running.

[Nerula]

Thanks D. Gave us 5 rating points to get us into a big dance at Riccarton November. Also a deposit for the Noms and Accepts which is needed 10k approx. Better that than to 'spec it

 

[Dopey]

8 hours ago, Nerula said:

Thanks D. Gave us 5 rating points to get us into a big dance at Riccarton November. Also a deposit for the Noms and Accepts which is needed 10k approx. Better that than to 'spec it

 

call it an investment in your future. My 1000 / 2000 guineas go back to Gaffa, Clansman, Canterbury Belle, and Philipa Rush....others no doubt go back before that.

[Dopey]

2 starters for 2 winners today for Hello Youmzain … he is in the difficult 3rd year as a sire reflected as follows at Karaka K1:

2024 $171k average 

2025 $95k average

2026 $88k average

HY had 2 winners from 2 runners in nz today :

12:05 Race 1 McCallums Group Maiden S., NZ$25000 1200m

Taffeta (NZ) 2022 (F. by Hello Youmzain-Taroni) AND…STAKES WINNER

16:00 Race 8 Southland Guineas L, NZ$120000 1400m

Hello Hayley (NZ) 2022 (F. by Hello Youmzain-Hayley Grace)

He is currently leading 2nd season sire by all measures and leading 3yold sire by winners… with a host of winners in AU last month. the sales market is taking a watch and see approach noting his on track winners recently seem prolific. More a 3-4 yold sire for me. 
 

disclaimer: I have 2

[Nerula]

My summation D is you would be unlucky to get a slow one. As for you closing commen I think you are on the money.

Our trainer said  our one would make a lovely 3yo. But thats changed to 4yo as she has gone leggy and hasnt started filling out.

If you are keen on your racing you should still be going with a 6yo I think.  As opposed to say a Snitzel, here today gone next year

[Dopey]

8 hours ago, Nerula said:

My summation D is you would be unlucky to get a slow one. As for you closing commen I think you are on the money.

Our trainer said  our one would make a lovely 3yo. But thats changed to 4yo as she has gone leggy and hasnt started filling out.

If you are keen on your racing you should still be going with a 6yo I think.  As opposed to say a Snitzel, here today gone next year

I’ve enjoyed some success  - seldom staring at three - but still firing at 6+ and even beyond. my super Seth mare has had her first start at 4 recently- placing at Sandown first up then went for a spell - shin sore (first prep). I thought in his first season in NZ they got into the SS a bit hard when they were first 2yolds, and have take our time with her from a family the peaks after the classic year.
I’ve not had a Snitzel / sire son yet but one is coming this season in AU.

[Dopey]

interestingly given our recent discussion on racing longevity...on the 15th Feb ACROBAT (Pins - Turf Fire) won his 7th race at age 10! in Selangor. his wins are below:

 

link to instagram video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DU1jT8iExsX/?igsh=MWVqejJjcmozdzMxYg==

 

[Dopey]

Hello Youmzain:

Reality of a Third‑Season Sire 

The third commercial season is often a revealing phase in a stallion’s career. By this point, novelty has faded, first‑crop expectations have been recalibrated, and the market becomes less forgiving of anything perceived as uncertainty, taking a wait and see approach.

Hello Youmzain, who commenced stud duties in France and New Zealand in 2021, now sits squarely in that phase. While his most recent sales results reflect a stallion in his third‑season, the racetrack evidence continues to point in a constructive direction. His sales results followed a well travel pattern for sires in their third year:

2024: $171k*          Top price $400k with buyers paying a 1st year premium.

2025: $95k*            Solid book clearance, with an average of $105k for colts,

2026: $88k*            Top price $320k (Ciaron Maher Bloodstock) but with a reduced average.

*Breednet – Karaka K1 Average

Crowned New Zealand’s Leading First Season Sire in 2024–25, Hello Youmzain has progressed beyond early validation and into a stage where depth and progression are now relevant measures.

Global Record: Efficiency Over Scale

At the time of writing, worldwide, Hello Youmzain has sired 111 individual winners from 207 runners, producing 170 wins and A$6.55 million in earnings. That output includes eight individual stakes winners, responsible for 10 stakes wins, including three at Group level, and is further supported by 10 additional stakes‑placed performers. From 377 foals, this equates to a 53.6% winners‑to‑runners strike rate, a figure that compares favourably with sires of his generation. (Arion)

Stakes Winners and Performers

At the elite end, Hello Youmzain has already demonstrated the ability to sire international‑class performers. Godspeed has emerged as his flagship runner, winning the Gr.2 Prix de Sandringham (1600m) and placing in Gr.1 and Gr.3 company, confirming genuine miler quality.

She is complemented by Misunderstood (Gr.3 winner, Gr.1‑placed at two) and Electrolyte (Gr.3 winner; runner‑up in the Gr.2 Coventry Stakes), ensuring that his European record is defined by Group performance rather than Listed success alone. More recently, juveniles Valasara and Dostoievsky have added further Listed wins, reinforcing crop‑by‑crop contribution, and also that his fillies are doing well.

In Australasia, Hello Youmzain’s stakes output has been centered in New Zealand, where Platinum Diamond (three Listed wins) and Hello Hayley (Listed Southland Guineas) are into their three‑year‑old seasons. Lucy In The Sky added juvenile black type with her Listed Champagne Stakes victory.

Just as important as the headline winners is the breadth of stakes‑placed performers, including Drops of God, Kullazain, Jeudixx, Landman, Bulgari, Rosapenna, Afentiko, Kozlovskha, Bermuda Longtail and Sweetest Thing on debut. This level of depth indicates that his black‑type output is not dependent on a single standout horse but supported by a broader competitive cohort.

Some mare’s that have worked

• O’Reilly Daughters: Lucy In The Sky and Bulgari are both out of O’Reilly mares, and each has already achieved black-type success or placings at two and three respectively. Landman’s maternal granddam (Midnight Dip) is by O’Reilly. I note O'Reilly is good with most sires !
• Thorn Park: Platinum Diamond and Hello Hayley – are out of mares by Thorn Park.
• Captain Rio (Pivotal line While not as prominent as O’Reilly or Thorn Park, another Nureyev-line broodmare sire worth noting is Captain Rio (by Pivotal, son of Polar Falcon/Nureyev). Midnight Delight, a daughter of Captain Rio, produced Landman
• Drops Of God: A good filly from an “outcross” pedigree is, whose dam Distinctive Lass carries neither Danehill nor Danzig. Distinctive Lass (Orientate x End Sweep): Early evidence suggests that Hello Youmzain is not limited to one kind of mating.

Crop and Age Profile: 

Viewed by crop, Hello Youmzain’s record shows progressive reinforcement rather than early saturation. His 2022 crop remains the backbone, producing 59 winners from 87 runners, including three Group winners and nearly A$3.92 million in earnings. The 2022/23 crop has added 34 winners from 58 runners, while the 2023 crop, still maturing, has already supplied 18 winners and two stakes winners. (Arion)

Equally encouraging is his age‑related progression. While 44 runners have won at two, for three-year-olds that number increases to 80 individual winners at three, responsible for 108 wins and higher average earnings per runner. In New Zealand, where Guineas‑distance performance is commercially important, this ability to perform at three has been demonstrated by horses such as Hello Hayley, and stakes placed Bulgari, Landman, and Drops of Gold so far.

Distance Profile: Sprinter–Miler Reach

HELLO YOUMZAIN (FR) b. H, 2016 {16-c}

DP = 3-12-22-3-0 (40) DI = 1.86   CD = 0.38 - GSV = 59.65 (Pedigreequery)

As expected, the bulk of Hello Youmzain’s early winners fall between 1000m and 1400m, but his record also includes 34 wins from 1401m to 1600m, including two Group victories. While he is not yet a proven source of classic horses, the data supports a sprinter–miler profile with reach, rather than a narrow speed bias. Hello Youmzain himself trained on and won his final group one race at Ascot as a four-year-old, and his breeding dosage profile suggests a sire with a heavy Classic center (22), Strong Intermediate (12), Brilliance (3), and some Solid (3) to support racing beyond sprint trips - however no Professional staying element.

Some Comparisons:

Hello Youmzain’s relative position is clearest in New Zealand, where direct comparison with his contemporaries highlights his achivements so far. As attached, he leads all second‑season sires in the 2025–26 New Zealand season by winners (17) and wins (19), stakeswinners, and sits comfortably clear on earnings ($725,082). Hello Youmzain is also leading NZ 3yold Sire ranks by number of Winners and Wins, and is current 5^th in 3yold earnings ranking behind Savabeel, Snitzel, Written Tycoon, and Ocean Park – which is good company to have.

While sires (I like) such as Lucky Vega and Circus Maximus also appear high on the earnings table, their figures are skewed by one or two (good) individuals. By contrast, Hello Youmzain’s returns are distributed across quite a broad group of runners, reflecting more depth rather than reliance on a single outlier.

In Australia, Hello Youmzain’s representation is quietly building, with 14 winners from 26 runners for 19 wins - a good recond so far with some talented individuals like Stormland (NZ) (G ex Sienna Rose) and Azarax (G. x Sunny Rose (Tavistock)) who has won 3 from 4 starts. While he is yet to sire an Australian stakes winner, his winner to runner ration is very good which suggests that his Australian results will be shaped further by greater opportunity.

Unresolved Future

While Hello Youmzain is navigating his tough third season, when assessed against racetrack performance — 111 winners, eight stakes winners, 10 stakes‑placed horses, and some good three‑year‑old progression — data points to a sire whose performance curve is trending up. Hello Youmzain is transitioning from early excitement into a phase defined by more continued international exposure. While not a market leader, his profile increasingly resembles that of a sire building long‑term relevance rather than peaking early. His trajectory remains positive and somewhat unresolved at this time, as to where his upside will eventually land in terms of class (and distance), as his horses progress through as autumn three year olds, and turn four.

References: Arion.co.nz | Pedigreequery.com | Breednet.com.au

[morayfm]

Thanks Dopey - Really interesting read

 

Both of my mares are in foal to him this year...

[Dopey]

Nice win for ENCHANTMENT today in the listed Welcome Stakes.

Out of a PER INCANTO mare, the gives an interesting Shamardal and Street Cry double to HELEN STREET and also see the Fairy King | Sadler's Wells relationship...

There are also Natalma | Almahmoud X-trails from both sire and the dam via Shamardal and good ole Shinko King (good boy!). And Selene via Per Incanto and Keepers direct bottom line from Belle Fascino to mirror the sires (via SPA).

Positive stuff.