Road shows

[racingoutsider 298]

Any feedback from those who attended yesterday and today in Invers and Wingatui?

Anyone else planning to go?

In September 2024, NZTR CEO Bruce Sharrock and COO Darin Balcombe will be undertaking Roadshows across the Northern, Central and Southern regions to meet with local stakeholders and provide a strategic update on NZTR activities. All industry participants are welcome, and we hope you gain some insights from the content covered leading into the most exciting summer racing carnival in New Zealand racing's history.  SOUTHERN ·         Wednesday 4 September: Invercargill | Ascot Park Raceway - First Floor Main Stand 12.00pm-2.00pm ·         Thursday 5 September: Dunedin | Wingatui Racecourse - Winning Post Lounge 12.00pm-2.00pm ·         Friday 6 September: Christchurch | Riccarton Racecourse - Gloaming Room 12.00pm-2.00pm NORTHERN ·         Wednesday 11 September: Matamata | Matamata Racecourse - Epsom Lounge 12.00pm-2.00pm ·         Monday 16 September: Karaka | New Zealand Bloodstock - Phar Lap Room 12.00pm-2.00pm CENTRAL ·         Thursday 12 September: New Plymouth | New Plymouth Raceway - La Mer Lounge 10:30am-12:30pm ·         Thursday 12 September: Palmerston North | RACE Awapuni -Terrace Lounge 4.30pm-6.30pm ·         Friday 13 September: Hastings | Hastings Racecourse - Cheval Room 12.00pm-2.00pm

[We're Doomed 5,704]

Probably not much time for questions at the end if they only allow 2 hours. I wonder if people are invited to linger for drinks and networking?

I love the bit about "the most exciting summer racing carnival in NZ's racing history." I wonder how they will measure that? I presume the season just gone was the second most exciting summer in NZ racing history.

I found it quite exciting when the likes of Grey Way, Show Gate. La Mer, Sunline, Bonecrusher and Prince Majestic were racing. Back when 3yos used to race in WFA races, when the Wgtn Cup and the Easter were Group 1s.

Although if I'm being honest, I remember thinking to myself back in the late 80's "If only we had a slot race, then the racing world would be perfect."

[Idolmite 3,233]

20 minutes ago, We're Doomed said:

Probably not much time for questions at the end if they only allow 2 hours. I wonder if people are invited to linger for drinks and networking?

I love the bit about "the most exciting summer racing carnival in NZ's racing history." I wonder how they will measure that? I presume the season just gone was the second most exciting summer in NZ racing history.

I found it quite exciting when the likes of Grey Way, Show Gate. La Mer, Sunline, Bonecrusher and Prince Majestic were racing. Back when 3yos used to race in WFA races, when the Wgtn Cup and the Easter were Group 1s.

Although if I'm being honest, I remember thinking to myself back in the late 80's "If only we had a slot race, then the racing world would be perfect."

So Slot Races are all your fault?

[We're Doomed 5,704]

21 minutes ago, Idolmite said:

So Slot Races are all your fault?

Sorry.

[Insider 4,918]

1 hour ago, We're Doomed said:

Probably not much time for questions at the end if they only allow 2 hours. I wonder if people are invited to linger for drinks and networking?

I love the bit about "the most exciting summer racing carnival in NZ's racing history." I wonder how they will measure that? I presume the season just gone was the second most exciting summer in NZ racing history.

I found it quite exciting when the likes of Grey Way, Show Gate. La Mer, Sunline, Bonecrusher and Prince Majestic were racing. Back when 3yos used to race in WFA races, when the Wgtn Cup and the Easter were Group 1s.

Although if I'm being honest, I remember thinking to myself back in the late 80's "If only we had a slot race, then the racing world would be perfect."

My Dear Friend DOOMED, I love the horses that you choose. I remember them all, but I don't remember last year's Auckland Cup winner. Was there one?

[We're Doomed 5,704]

20 minutes ago, Insider said:

My Dear Friend DOOMED, I love the horses that you choose. I remember them all, but I don't remember last year's Auckland Cup winner. Was there one?

Interestingly, I was going to add that I couldn't actually recall who last year's top horses were but I didn't think anyone would believe me.

I think one of the problems is that for several years now hardly any of the top 3yos have gone on with it in following seasons. All of the horses I mentioned above raced for several seasons so we got to know them well. And perhaps more importantly they raced in fields of considerable depth so we all admired them for their achievements.

I am hopeful Crocetti might go on with it this season and the Oaks winner looked promising. I can't remember who won the Derby. So perhaps we might be in for the most exciting season ever in the history of NZ racing. I won't hold my breath though.

[Eclipsed 276]

more gigs here than a Stones tour through Europe……Keith would be pretty worn out by the Hastings leg

[Fiery Falcon 100]

For We'Are Doomed

You just proved how thick you are.

ORCHESTRAL

[gubellini 4,483]

As far as I am concerned these Road Shows will be a non event. You had to register with NZTR by August 21 to attend. You had to submit any questions you wanted to ask by that date. I haven't registered. My nearest meeting is at Matamata. If I turn up will I be refused entry? Will I be able to ask questions from the floor? Obviously the peripatetic duo will be eager to answer the patsy questions but will have consigned the hard questions to the too hard basket.

[We're Doomed 5,704]

9 hours ago, Fiery Falcon said:

For We'Are Doomed

You just proved how thick you are.

ORCHESTRAL

Thank you for that. I was trying to think of the top male stayer and nothing came to mind. Of course I do remember now it was a filly.

I'm not sure that it is very nice to call someone elderly and slightly demented "thick'. I certainly wouldn't.

[nomates 5,229]

10 hours ago, Fiery Falcon said:

For We'Are Doomed

You just proved how thick you are.

ORCHESTRAL

And amazingly you just proved how ignorant you are .

No need to say that , at all .

FFS , what is so hard about discussing stuff without being demeaning and aggressive . 

I could simply have said to you , how thick are you , did you go to school , We'Are ? But didn't .

[scooby3051 12,545]

1 hour ago, nomates said:

And amazingly you just proved how ignorant you are .

No need to say that , at all .

FFS , what is so hard about discussing stuff without being demeaning and aggressive . 

I could simply have said to you , how thick are you , did you go to school , We'Are ? But didn't .

100% agree keep on posting We're Doomed...what you say is 100% right there are not many great horses like the ones you mention anymore unfortunately...times change and racing must change with them..however the people running the show now seem to have little clue or care about traditions....their meetings are just for platitudes... will change nothing as they dont listen to grass roots people anymore.

[scooby3051 12,545]

10 hours ago, Fiery Falcon said:

For We'Are Doomed

You just proved how thick you are.

ORCHESTRAL

Stop the personal stuff ...not necessary....cheers.

[mikenz 1,255]

40 minutes ago, nomates said:

And amazingly you just proved how ignorant you are .

No need to say that , at all .

FFS , what is so hard about discussing stuff without being demeaning and aggressive . 

I could simply have said to you , how thick are you , did you go to school , We'Are ? But didn't .

Fiery seems to pop in now and then and gives someone a serve then dissapears, interesting.

[Pete Lane 1,244]

35 minutes ago, mikenz said:

Fiery seems to pop in now and then and gives someone a serve then dissapears, interesting.

Probably has a mental need to abuse someone.

[nomates 5,229]

1 hour ago, Pete Lane said:

Probably has a mental need to abuse someone.

He could stand in front of a mirror and save us from his attitude .

[Idolmite 3,233]

11 hours ago, mikenz said:

Fiery seems to pop in now and then and gives someone a serve then dissapears, interesting.

Falcons are just broken down old Fords. A relic from past history. A fiery one is basically obsolete even earlier. 

[mikenz 1,255]

45 minutes ago, Idolmite said:

Falcons are just broken down old Fords. A relic from past history. A fiery one is basically obsolete even earlier. 

I think the one off here has blown a head gasket

[gubellini 4,483]

Would appreciate it if any Cafe members attending the Matamata Road Show would post a report later today. Thanks.

[Ragamuffin 137]

On 9/6/2024 at 4:34 AM, gubellini said:

As far as I am concerned these Road Shows will be a non event. You had to register with NZTR by August 21 to attend. You had to submit any questions you wanted to ask by that date. I haven't registered. My nearest meeting is at Matamata. If I turn up will I be refused entry? Will I be able to ask questions from the floor? Obviously the peripatetic duo will be eager to answer the patsy questions but will have consigned the hard questions to the too hard basket.

I hope you attended today, not too many found the desire to, re your Q's No  Yes

[Ethereal 41]

 Hastings on Friday delivered as a sermon, various interesting statistics . Turnover, starters per race by region, horse fatalities synthetic v grass-NZ v overseas, foal crop by season ,etc. A broadcast from the throne  rather than an attempt to connect with racing industry  . Time slot for questions  minimal . Clearly NZTR  concerned what happens when Entains 5 year funding injection ends but in the meantime there's quite a bit of cash sloshing around. Stakes heading in right direction but Entain appear to be calling the shots now. Sifting through the name dropping and jargon ( 'Product'(horse racing)'Right-Sizing'-(closing tracks),'Moving the Dial' etc, etc), there will continue to be a concentration of resources at metro venues at expense of regions with reliance on trickle down from elite rather than restoring the grassroots .Worth attending and good on NZTR for getting out and about but a missed opportunity .

[nomates 5,229]

7 minutes ago, Ethereal said:

 Hastings on Friday delivered as a sermon, various interesting statistics . Turnover, starters per race by region, horse fatalities synthetic v grass-NZ v overseas, foal crop by season ,etc. A broadcast from the throne  rather than an attempt to connect with racing industry  . Time slot for questions  minimal . Clearly NZTR  concerned what happens when Entains 5 year funding injection ends but in the meantime there's quite a bit of cash sloshing around. Stakes heading in right direction but Entain appear to be calling the shots now. Sifting through the name dropping and jargon ( 'Product'(horse racing)'Right-Sizing'-(closing tracks),'Moving the Dial' etc, etc), there will continue to be a concentration of resources at metro venues at expense of regions with reliance on trickle down from elite rather than restoring the grassroots .Worth attending and good on NZTR for getting out and about but a missed opportunity .

Amazing how many opportunities they have missed , or is it just opportunities chosen not to be taken ?

[scooby3051 12,545]

I heard they mostly swept any questions from the floor aside...and as you said it was a lecture not a meeting where attendees could participate.

[Pam Robson 1,839]

'  there will continue to be a concentration of resources at metro venues at expense of regions with reliance on trickle down from elite rather than restoring the grassroots..'

So more of the same then.

And Entain appear to want to have 'family-friendly' racedays, I sense a disconnect there.

[We're Doomed 5,704]

5 hours ago, Pam Robson said:

'  there will continue to be a concentration of resources at metro venues at expense of regions with reliance on trickle down from elite rather than restoring the grassroots..'

So more of the same then.

And Entain appear to want to have 'family-friendly' racedays, I sense a disconnect there.

Likewise, I find the current situation  quite confusing. NZTR on one hand don't appear at all interested in on course attendance, and yet they appear to love the big high profile days, even if they aren't cost effective.

And Entain don't appear to be structuring things to maximise turnover, which I expected would have been their priority.

I do get easily confused these days, but I do find everything quite strange to be honest.