Trump soars ahead in the poles after another gaffe filled week by Biden.

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44 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

Anyone who backed that overrated nag Vauban, or a Fastnet Rock horse, deserves little sympathy for their stupidity. But I digress….

A pretty comprehensive win by the orange felon….72m morons can’t be wrong can they ?
Apart from their total ignorance of how global economies work, and whining about how much more expensive things are these days, despite the economy going great by all measures, most of which are over their heads.

One idiot voted for Trump because he said he would reduce tax on overtime. That’s it. Never voted for him before or in previous elections.

Democracy, Immigration, abortion not important then… ?

Wars, conflicts, supply chain problems, increased production, manufacturing and import costs…..who did they think would pay in the end ?
Wait until Trump imposes his tariffs and taxes, and no doubt gets into further conflicts with partners and foes alike. Let’s see how rosy things are then.

Project 2025 in the wings, RFK Jnr getting a Health Dept post, a halfwit for a VP, Republicans have the Senate and the House so look out..
America will be a very different place in 4 years if things play out as expected. They deserve everything they get.

Hokey , Please stop repeating BS . TOTAL IGNORANCE OF GLOBAL ECONOMEYS , this was the USA election not a global event , the USA is clinging on by it's fingers to stay  top of the heap all Trump want's to do is make sure it stays top.

The only measure that's flying in the USA is the share market which has very little to do with the average working  American.

Wars, Trumps record on that is impeccable last time around he called the bombers back when he thought it was an over reaction .

Tariffs , the dems left his previous tariffs in place and  new ones which there might be plenty will be refunded to the population via tax cuts effectively zero rated for Americans .

Project 25 , nothing to do with Trump, you are listening to more dem BS .

And if you really want to know what helped Trump retain his popularity and win it was the regular persecution by the courts far to many Americans realize this was a straight out political vendetta using the justice system to destroy an opponent , it kept the focus on Trump and highlighted injustice .   

Don't know if Trump is good for NZ or not but he will be for the USA .

[Ohokaman 6,304]

39 minutes ago, tripple alliance said:

Hokey , Please stop repeating BS . TOTAL IGNORANCE OF GLOBAL ECONOMEYS , this was the USA election not a global event , the USA is clinging on by it's fingers to stay  top of the heap all Trump want's to do is make sure it stays top.

The only measure that's flying in the USA is the share market which has very little to do with the average working  American.

Wars, Trumps record on that is impeccable last time around he called the bombers back when he thought it was an over reaction .

Tariffs , the dems left his previous tariffs in place and  new ones which there might be plenty will be refunded to the population via tax cuts effectively zero rated for Americans .

Project 25 , nothing to do with Trump, you are listening to more dem BS .

And if you really want to know what helped Trump retain his popularity and win it was the regular persecution by the courts far to many Americans realize this was a straight out political vendetta using the justice system to destroy an opponent , it kept the focus on Trump and highlighted injustice .   

Don't know if Trump is good for NZ or not but he will be for the USA .

Another moron who can’t read, or spell apparently.

His 20-60% tariffs on imports sure as hell won’t help our exports, or many others probably. His last lot cost them millions in subsidies for farmers.

There was nothing wrong with the economy, it was just the perception out there that it was bad…and ignorance of how global economies work.

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Donald Trump’s decisive election victory was about many things: a global rejection of incumbents, a rise in the Republican electorate and a battle for the future of America’s democracy. But voters consistently and repeatedly said issue No. 1 this election was the economy.

That explains a lot about why Trump was reelected.

By several major metrics, the US economy is on fire, the envy of the rest of the world. But Americans still viewed it unfavorably, and a significant number of voters blame President Joe Biden and Trump’s opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, for failing to make enough improvements to Americans’ financial situations over the past four years. Poll after poll suggested that Americans hold largely negative views about the US economy.

 

That’s because economic sentiment doesn’t always match up nicely with data that shows the economy is adding jobs, consumer spending is growing and gross domestic product — the broadest measure of the economy — continues to boom. When you pay through the nose for a cup of coffee or when you can’t afford to buy a home, those data are meaningless: You feel shut out of the American Dream.

[Hedley Jordan 128]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1073863461053963

Victory

[nomates 4,960]

1 hour ago, Ohokaman said:

There was nothing wrong with the economy, it was just the perception out there that it was bad…and ignorance of how global economies work.

 

 

Exactly the same could be said about NZ , but the rhetoric about how a National Govt would correct it was just as bad as Trump . 

[Ohokaman 6,304]

Millions of Americans say “Do we have to… ? “ 

[Ohokaman 6,304]

11 minutes ago, nomates said:

Exactly the same could be said about NZ , but the rhetoric about how a National Govt would correct it was just as bad as Trump . 

You can’t fix years of Labour fiscal incompetence overnight NM……

Interesting how most of the main rats have deserted that ship since eh….?

[Ohokaman 6,304]

Hope The White House is getting ready for this motley crew to return in January. I’m sure Lurch can help the “ model”  with the decor…..

[nomates 4,960]

1 hour ago, Ohokaman said:

You can’t fix years of Labour fiscal incompetence overnight NM……

Interesting how most of the main rats have deserted that ship since eh….?

That maybe right but interest rates and cost of living were a world wide phenomenon and would only correct in NZ when the rest of the world started correcting .

People in NZ have to understand that we are but a pimple in world economics and as such are at the whim of the big powers fluctuations .

[nomates 4,960]

1 hour ago, Ohokaman said:

Millions of Americans say “Do we have to… ? “ 

That could put you off your porridge in the morning .

[Lee270744 751]

I'm worried about Mitey does he not have channel 88, CNN probably waiting for the second day.

Can someone contact him to tell him Harris was very unlucky.

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On 11/6/2024 at 12:43 PM, Ohokaman said:

He has already. “ Won’t even be close” he says today. Work it out from there…..

Trump was right again wasn't he

[tripple alliance 1,211]

Hokey said , There was nothing wrong with the economy, it was just the perception out there that it was bad…and ignorance of how global economies work.

And there you have it we know best people are struggling to pay the bills but hey it's just a perception we dems are ok to hell with the rest .

[tripple alliance 1,211]

3 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

His 20-60% tariffs on imports sure as hell won’t help our exports, or many others probably. His last lot cost them millions in subsidies for farmers.

The proposed tariffs may or may not effect us but the military might of the USA is moving closer to NZ and AU which may be very important for our future .

The farming subsidies were funded by the tariffs that were charged , as I said zero effect on the farmers .

Top export destinations of commodities from New Zealand in 2023:

• China with a share of 26% (11.3 billion US$)
• Australia with a share of 12.8% (5.42 billion US$)
• USA with a share of 12% (5.08 billion US$)
• Japan with a share of 5.51% (2.32 billion US$)
• Korea with a share of 3.46% (1.46 billion US$)
• Singapore with a share of 2.47% (1.04 billion US$)
• Indonesia with a share of 2.31% (974 million US$)
• Other Asia, nes with a share of 2.24% (947 million US$)
• United Kingdom with a share of 2.09% (883 million US$)
• Malaysia with a share of 1.86% (785 million US$)

• New Zealand's imports 2023 by country

  Top trading partners (import sources) of New Zealand in 2023:

• China with a share of 20% (10.4 billion US$)
• Australia with a share of 10.8% (5.45 billion US$)
• USA with a share of 9.74% (4.91 billion US$)
• Korea with a share of 7.51% (3.79 billion US$)
• Japan with a share of 6.81% (3.43 billion US$)
• Singapore with a share of 5.5% (2.77 billion US$)
• Germany with a share of 4.42% (2.23 billion US$)
• Malaysia with a share of 4.01% (2.02 billion US$)
• Thailand with a share of 3.66% (1.84 billion US$)
• United Kingdom with a share of 2.63% (1.33 billion US$)

[Ohokaman 6,304]

1 hour ago, tripple alliance said:

The proposed tariffs may or may not effect us but the military might of the USA is moving closer to NZ and AU which may be very important for our future .

The farming subsidies were funded by the tariffs that were charged , as I said zero effect on the farmers .

Top export destinations of commodities from New Zealand in 2023:

• China with a share of 26% (11.3 billion US$)
• Australia with a share of 12.8% (5.42 billion US$)
• USA with a share of 12% (5.08 billion US$)
• Japan with a share of 5.51% (2.32 billion US$)
• Korea with a share of 3.46% (1.46 billion US$)
• Singapore with a share of 2.47% (1.04 billion US$)
• Indonesia with a share of 2.31% (974 million US$)
• Other Asia, nes with a share of 2.24% (947 million US$)
• United Kingdom with a share of 2.09% (883 million US$)
• Malaysia with a share of 1.86% (785 million US$)

• New Zealand's imports 2023 by country

  Top trading partners (import sources) of New Zealand in 2023:

• China with a share of 20% (10.4 billion US$)
• Australia with a share of 10.8% (5.45 billion US$)
• USA with a share of 9.74% (4.91 billion US$)
• Korea with a share of 7.51% (3.79 billion US$)
• Japan with a share of 6.81% (3.43 billion US$)
• Singapore with a share of 5.5% (2.77 billion US$)
• Germany with a share of 4.42% (2.23 billion US$)
• Malaysia with a share of 4.01% (2.02 billion US$)
• Thailand with a share of 3.66% (1.84 billion US$)
• United Kingdom with a share of 2.63% (1.33 billion US$)

FFS…OF COURSE IT WILL HURT US…..BIGTIME..

https://www.farmersweekly.co.nz/politics/sector-braces-for-high-cost-of-trump-win/

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/533088/us-election-what-does-a-donald-trump-victory-mean-for-new-zealand-s-economy

 

[mikenz 1,237]

One wonders if Trump has been congradulat3d by the leaders of Mexico and Haiti.

[Maximus 665]

Max heard on Te News today that Trump got lots of unexpected votes from "young people and immigrants". Well, all I can say is that the immigrants may well regret being charmed by the man who wants to get rid of them and all their rellies.

 

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11 hours ago, Maximus said:

Max heard on Te News today that Trump got lots of unexpected votes from "young people and immigrants". Well, all I can say is that the immigrants may well regret being charmed by the man who wants to get rid of them and all their rellies.

 

Max please try to be informed , TRUMP is all for immigration but it must be legal immigration just like our country or Australia and many others .

Apply , confirm ID, be prepared to be vetted  especially any criminal back ground  and document what you have to offer your proposed  new country , not to difficult really .

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15 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

FFS…OF COURSE IT WILL HURT US…..BIGTIME..

https://www.farmersweekly.co.nz/politics/sector-braces-for-high-cost-of-trump-win/

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/533088/us-election-what-does-a-donald-trump-victory-mean-for-new-zealand-s-economy

 

Plenty of unknowns only time will sort this out BUT it's not all down hill and perhaps we may have a win . Quote ,  RNZ .

Trump's isolation of the US economy could see China turn more towards New Zealand, Finny said.

"If [Trump] goes ahead and imposes 60 percent tariffs on China, China will retaliate. I'm sure US agricultural products will be top of the list of items for retaliation, and that might create opportunities for us in China.

"Also, we have an increasingly large network of free trade agreements. We've got lots of options, so it's not going to be a total disaster for the New Zealand economy,

[mikenz 1,237]

One wonders if Trump puts tarrifs on then why wouldn't the rest of the world put tarrifs on US products, everything's a two way street .

It will be the consumers paying higher prices in America who will bear the brunt of tarrifs which makes things counterproductive.

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[Canterbury Man 113]

24 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

Actually it is a long way off the mark.  You only have to look at the results in some of those states coloured blue in your diagram to see that Trump broadened the Republican voting across a wide range of demographic groups.

However what your picture does demonstrate is why the Democrats lost - the elite left just don't get it.

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1 hour ago, mikenz said:

One wonders if Trump puts tarrifs on then why wouldn't the rest of the world put tarrifs on US products, everything's a two way street .

It will be the consumers paying higher prices in America who will bear the brunt of tarrifs which makes things counterproductive.

free trade is counter productive n0? when one country pays a boel of rice for wages and another doesnt play by the same rules.

bring back protectionism and rid the world of globalistaion.

the Don is on a winner just like CT n0?

watch........... this space 

[Canterbury Man 113]

This is a more accurate representation:

[scooby3051 12,319]

They will get what they deserve...I always thought Yanks were stupid...now I am sure of it.

[nomates 4,960]

16 minutes ago, scooby3051 said:

They will get what they deserve...I always thought Yanks were stupid...now I am sure of it.

Slow learner , I've always been sure of it .