greyhound racings future

[Rules For Some 181]

9 hours ago, lad27 said:

Think I'll chuck my 2c in.

Let's put aside emotion and it always comes down to dollars and cents.

The turn over is increasing year to year and Entain didn't come on board to promote 2 codes. Winston is the racing minister and if suddenly the greys are gone, what's next on the antis agenda?

I'm sure Winston can see the big picture, unfortunately for the greyhound community the media have had an agenda for a long-term project of ending it.

Second off we are apparently in a cost of living crisis with over 1000 people involved  in all aspects of greyhound racing facing job and income loss. This will definitely way in on the decision.

So my prediction is that Greyhound racing will stay. Tight frameworks will be put in place and I'm guessing if the smoke and mirrors kick off next election then the greyhound code will be back in the spotlight.

Honestly. I'm not sure greyhound racing in NZ can continue in it's current form.

GRNZ has tried to reform alot but from the outside, it doesn't look anywhere near enough. Throw into the gauntlet that upwards to 80% of the nz population now think the industry should shut, it's days are numbered.

Do I think this upcoming review will shut it? Probably not. Maybe in another few years, sure. Greyhound racing in NZ just doesn't have the same presence it has in Aus

[lad27 413]

GRNZ have moved forward alot really since what happened in NSW and other sagas over here in NZ.

Why does 80% of NZ according to our MSM think that?  because they have been painting that picture for years, I'd say 60 minutes kicked that one off with a very biases view and opinion hit job.

Very poor performance from the grnz boards over the years to even break the damage that was been done by MSM at the time. The view was keep your head in the sand and say nothing, it will blow over.

[canon47 113]

Well its been said before doggie people do nothing to help their industry. A class of 5 years olds do more PR work over a week for a running race than Greyhound do in a year.

Come out of the closet and make a few documentaries of behind the scene like a good look at the kennels ,how they are trained to run, basic food given grooming how they are loved etc Also what happens on race day. THE rumors we hear about the larger kennels is nothing short of slanderous. Become more friendly to Joe public you would be amazed how many would lov to become involved with racing a dog. BE MORE OPEN with your secret early morning jump outs and when an observer asks the dogs name give the racing name not the kennel name and dont walk away so quick I do understand that punting is how most of you survive ?but!!!  SO where is grey hound racing heading. Well the greenies and winnie  hold the power. I believe track racing well be bared and it well only be straight racing on grass for a while (how boring) and that well finish dog racing in NZ  

[Pyst 11]

4 hours ago, lad27 said:

Why does 80% of NZ according to our MSM think that?  because they have been painting that picture for years, I'd say 60 minutes kicked that one off with a very biases view and opinion hit job.

If I didn't like betting on the dogs I would probably agree with that 80% because I would be able to pretend to have a conscience without it affecting something I enjoy doing. I wonder how much of that 80% would rather we still had cheaper eggs from battery caged hens.

[Rules For Some 181]

8 hours ago, lad27 said:

GRNZ have moved forward alot really since what happened in NSW and other sagas over here in NZ.

Why does 80% of NZ according to our MSM think that?  because they have been painting that picture for years, I'd say 60 minutes kicked that one off with a very biases view and opinion hit job.

Very poor performance from the grnz boards over the years to even break the damage that was been done by MSM at the time. The view was keep your head in the sand and say nothing, it will blow over.

People in the industry do not help themselves at all.

I'm sorry but blaming media for grnz licensees failing to uphold expectations of animal welfare and conduct generally isn't medias fault.

They definetly sensationalise things but trainers don't help.

[TurnyTom 1,732]

When all the “dirt” is tabled, meth trainers, mething dogs, drug usage etc etc …. Just cannot see a green light

[Dazzer 68]

I don't disagree with the need for the industry to put animal welfare at the centre of everything that happens around race day.  That said, just ONE council in NZ euthanised over 400 dogs in just 10 months.  You don't need to be a genius to extrapolate that to a national level.  I wonder where the activists are?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/huge-number-of-unclaimed-pound-dogs-euthanised-as-owners-battle-cost-of-living/5UXKI5TM35HNFMRUBQLCDY5EMI/

[Leggy 4,194]

3 minutes ago, Dazzer said:

I don't disagree with the need for the industry to put animal welfare at the centre of everything that happens around race day.  That said, just ONE council in NZ euthanised over 400 dogs in just 10 months.  You don't need to be a genius to extrapolate that to a national level.  I wonder where the activists are?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/huge-number-of-unclaimed-pound-dogs-euthanised-as-owners-battle-cost-of-living/5UXKI5TM35HNFMRUBQLCDY5EMI/

https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/nz-news/350133879/more-dogs-euthanised-due-overcrowded-pounds

[lad27 413]

1 hour ago, Rules For Some said:

People in the industry do not help themselves at all.

I'm sorry but blaming media for grnz licensees failing to uphold expectations of animal welfare and conduct generally isn't medias fault.

They definetly sensationalise things but trainers don't help.

Every single code has its issues and the greyhound were easy targets as for msm pushing the narrative they wanted.

Extremely weak previous greyhound boards burying their heads in the sand or sweeping issues under the carpet which they seemed rather good at and serious conflicts of interest have never helped the code.

[Idolmite 3,296]

Where's our Aussie mate 'kurious', and all of his puppies he had on the way over here from Australia to join in and clean up the scene over here (both literally and figuretarively)? Three pages back he was the dominant poster and supporter of greyhound racing. 

[Rules For Some 181]

49 minutes ago, lad27 said:

Every single code has its issues and the greyhound were easy targets as for msm pushing the narrative they wanted.

Extremely weak previous greyhound boards burying their heads in the sand or sweeping issues under the carpet which they seemed rather good at and serious conflicts of interest have never helped the code.

I can agree with that somewhat. I'm not in the industry no more so I don't know alot about the current board but I have heard similar things

[Ohokaman 6,430]

On borrowed time you would have to say….

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/518019/animal-activists-want-decision-on-greyhound-racing-ban-following-latest-death

[Lowdown 313]

Everytime a greyhound dies it makes the news now..

How many working farm dogs  have died this week?

How many dogs have SPCA put down this week? 

How many pets have died in backyards this week, possibly after a long,lonely miserable life tethered to a tree? 

Anwser: nobody knows because it isn't made public.

That dog that died on Friday night, 'dropped dead' at the lure.. obviously horrible thing to happen,  but I'd suggest that dog lived a happy , healthy life and died doing what it loved doing (to use a common turn of phase used when a human dies doing their chosen activity). 

People/animals live and die everyday... the ban greyhound racing people are, for the most part, the same kind of people that also believe horses should never be ridden by man and should be left to roam free and do what they want... stop the world cos I wanna get off..

 

[Rules For Some 181]

9 hours ago, Lowdown said:

Everytime a greyhound dies it makes the news now..

How many working farm dogs  have died this week?

How many dogs have SPCA put down this week? 

How many pets have died in backyards this week, possibly after a long,lonely miserable life tethered to a tree? 

Anwser: nobody knows because it isn't made public.

That dog that died on Friday night, 'dropped dead' at the lure.. obviously horrible thing to happen,  but I'd suggest that dog lived a happy , healthy life and died doing what it loved doing (to use a common turn of phase used when a human dies doing their chosen activity). 

People/animals live and die everyday... the ban greyhound racing people are, for the most part, the same kind of people that also believe horses should never be ridden by man and should be left to roam free and do what they want... stop the world cos I wanna get off..

 

Thats the industries own fault. Theyve dug themselves this hole to get out of.

The industry needed to do more back in 2010 and 2011 instead of now because it looks like atleast from the outside, these reforms are only occuring because of the risk of closure.

Its not like the warning signs werent there.

I know one thing for certain, racing in general in NZ is no longer thst popular amongst mosy casual viewerd and all we are really seeing is the slow decline.

Young people dont watch a race and see a fast animal, they see an animal being used as a comodity to make money.

The people that think this will stop at greyhounds are delusional. 

[speed 11]

So who is defending the sport publicly or in the media?

 

[Ohokaman 6,430]

1 hour ago, speed said:

So who is defending the sport publicly or in the media?

 

Isn’t that Rennells job ?

[Idolmite 3,296]

18 hours ago, Lowdown said:

Everytime a greyhound dies it makes the news now..

How many working farm dogs  have died this week?

How many dogs have SPCA put down this week? 

How many pets have died in backyards this week, possibly after a long,lonely miserable life tethered to a tree? 

Anwser: nobody knows because it isn't made public.

That dog that died on Friday night, 'dropped dead' at the lure.. obviously horrible thing to happen,  but I'd suggest that dog lived a happy , healthy life and died doing what it loved doing (to use a common turn of phase used when a human dies doing their chosen activity). 

People/animals live and die everyday... the ban greyhound racing people are, for the most part, the same kind of people that also believe horses should never be ridden by man and should be left to roam free and do what they want... stop the world cos I wanna get off..

 

I'l hold the door open for you 

[Rules For Some 181]

Why does the tab do a better job at advertising then grnz? Really enjoying the more frequent updates on everything coming from tab side, especially the random ones like a dog knocking of early or running of with the lure. 

[Shad 1,664]

Bloody silly add on TV at moment for tab, anyone seen it.

[Palliser 1,224]

On 5/29/2024 at 5:14 PM, Ohokaman said:

Isn’t that Rennells job ?

Who is that ??

[Ohokaman 6,430]

1 hour ago, Palliser said:

Who is that ??

https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/2895/Edward-Rennell-appointed-new-GRNZ-CEO

[Palliser 1,224]

47 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/2895/Edward-Rennell-appointed-new-GRNZ-CEO

I was being facetious lols. I haven't seen anyone ever stand up and rattle cages at NZGRA ever. Sweep the cupboard out and start again.

[Palliser 1,224]

Just adding to my comment above that includes a greyhound pundit / commentator, and a  presenter who unfortunately is bloody terrible despite having a good knowledge. You can't have cringe worthy people front left and centre. Incidentally they are both males .. IMO.

[Palliser 1,224]

They need to highlight the great things within the industry like Bob Pringle and Grand Vue Ace, get that story on mainstream .. brilliant. Stop banging on about how great the Cole Kennel is Rosanowski.

[Alan Williams 13]

Yes I think there's more to come with the Bob Pringle story.