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I wonder if the stipes are going to hair test me now to see if im on 'crack'
Wonder where theyd want the sample from??

What a stupid thing to write on a public forum.
Best handler.. 
If it was about handling winners then why do we celebrate the success of trainers and owners and not the handlers.
 
Now if you were talking about passion or how far someone has come n the industry then i applaud the mention of mark.
But this is just stupid and i know mark feels the same way.
 
Corey Steele 

I wonder if the stipes are going to hair test me now to see if im on 'crack'
Wonder where theyd want the sample from??

I wonder if the stipes are going to hair test me now to see if im on 'crack'
Wonder where theyd want the sample from??

I wonder if the stipes are going to hair test me now to see if im on 'crack'
Wonder where theyd want the sample from??

I wonder if the stipes are going to hair test me now to see if im on 'crack'
Wonder where theyd want the sample from??

Well at least he doesn't make an 'ass' of himself on Trackside, forever implanting images in people's minds that will take a lot of therapy to regress.

What a stupid thing to write on a public forum.
Best handler.. 
If it was about handling winners then why do we celebrate the success of trainers and owners and not the handlers.
 
Now if you were talking about passion or how far someone has come n the industry then i applaud the mention of mark.
But this is just stupid and i know mark feels the same way.
 
Corey Steele 

What a stupid thing to write on a public forum.
Best handler.. 
If it was about handling winners then why do we celebrate the success of trainers and owners and not the handlers.
 
Now if you were talking about passion or how far someone has come n the industry then i applaud the mention of mark.
But this is just stupid and i know mark feels the same way.
 
Corey Steele 

What a stupid thing to write on a public forum.
Best handler.. 
If it was about handling winners then why do we celebrate the success of trainers and owners and not the handlers.
 
Now if you were talking about passion or how far someone has come n the industry then i applaud the mention of mark.
But this is just stupid and i know mark feels the same way.
 
Corey Steele 

Haha you are talking about something you know nothing about john.Paul Wheeler has no reason to bag or put one dog ahead of the other re DDO or DV as he owns them both.He couldn't give a crap about NZ and breeding if he didn't want to.He has had substantial offers for DV but is happy to try and give breeders the opportunity to use Vikkers here in NZ.However the truth is he will tell you himself as will Jan that there is very little between the 2 and DV was an extremely hard chaser hence the fighting ticket,as he was looking for his reward at the end of his races.He would be one of the most hardest chasing dogs I have ever trained as well as the most clever.
The only real difference between the 2 is 900K and I am happy to believe the breeder ,rearer and breaker of the 2 when he says there is little difference in ability.
As for breeding out of sub standard imports......look in your own backyard john ,theres no one forcing the kiwis to breed from these dogs in NZ.We are responsible for our own demise.
Heres a plan john,lets put a $1000 fee on breeders that breed out of sprinting bitches and remove the $500 import fee on 500m plus imports.....Its not going to happen is it.
AC

This is my opinion for what its worth. Ray is a successful breeder. He has been breeding animals all his life. Cows, horses, and now dogs. Ray matches his maternal bloodlines to only the best. He only uses his better bitches. His maternal line traces back to Mega Maxi. She won a NZ Oaks whilst in my care on behalf of her owner and trainer Adriane Charters in track record time at Addington. She then added the Canterbury Futurity, and the Auckland Cup. Out of this line came Funny Girl, winner of over $70,000. She left Ninas Girl, conqueror of Swift Fantasy in the Silver Collar. Ninas Girl looks like being brood bitch of the yr judging by the lead she has at present. So in short what i'm trying to point out is, Ray is an astute breeder, and only goe's to the best Sires suited to his bloodlines.
In litters of dogs, not all get the same genes, some are strong, some are weak, some are stupid, some are smart, etc. In the scheme of things, nature usually dictates that only the strongest dog becomes the Alpha dog. He will be the one that doe's all the dealing, in this fashion the breed can go forward and not backwards. This Alpha dog will be the prepotent one [ability to throw on right genes] not all have this ability. Its rare to find two dogs in a litter that are equal in the ability to thow on their strength.
In the Greyhound world when selecting a Sire, best track performance is usually the guide as to the Alpha dog, the one with the ability to lift the breed. And usually theres only one in the litter. So when the question is put to Ray over DDO as against DV, Rays assessment as breeder is, DDO is the Alpha dog in the litter. But time will tell.
I did try going to the brother of a famous dog once, it was a dog by the name of Doughtful Bill, he stood in Queensland and was a brother to the mighty Brother Fox. I got good dogs at the time, but really he just faded away in the breed, and you would be lucky to find him in any pedigrees today, whereas Brother Fox would be everywhere. Brother Fox was the ALPHA dog, and thats why he was so great. Until we see pups on the ground we won't conclusively know who's going to be the best Sire between DDO, and DV, but because DDO has by far the superior record, then he will get the best bitches and in all probability be the better sire and the Alpha in the litter. I hope i havn't ruffled to many feathers, only my opinion. DV has been a great dog in NZ.

No.

It was a decent bet for the average joe blogs. But for Matt at the time it was considered a normal sized bet.
Get a life Cantab.. ashame that karma will be waiting for you around the corner

Ray i think you have a more vested intrest to get rid of imports so they wont get in your way with your breeding so you can win group races....we have done both and to tell you the truth if you want to eat you bring in imports......if you are retired like you with a income that dogs wins don't effect you then breed because at the end of the day there is no more satisfaction than winning a group race with your own breed...but don't bag imports....Kath and i are down $80000 in the last year with our breeding ( and i am not saying it is right or wrong as we have won 3 group ones and plenty of racing series with them )  but when you rear a whole litter and keep them we all know the cost...from last week i have stopped breeding ( maybe one litter a year , and i have some nice broodies ) and have 6 imports coming in the next two weeks to make sure we can eat and pay for the other dogs we have......i remember Jimmy lee from perth telling me 7 years ago you are either a breeder or a trainer and if you are a breeder you will go broke , so stay as a trainer and you will survive.......did i listen no.....

I think you are pushing s#it up hill on this one. The trainers adjusting the race rug as in the examples seen on here are doing nothing wrong. Its purely a preference thing. If as a punter this puts you off, back something else. They are NOT breaking any rules, no different to adjusting a muzzle befor boxing. Time for more important issues.

I take it personally because i am a battler.
Noddy and christine are battlers
We work just as hard as anyone else in this sport to try and make a loving. Yet youve got someone spotting every little petty thing wrong thats happening around the country.
 
 
Sairy.. earlier you questioned my integrity and called me a cowboy.
Feel free to sit down for a chat at waikato thursday and we can have a decent talk about the integrity of the sport. Which you and i had previously discussed a few weeks back at the hose down bay.
 

Do you think noddy or christine read the crap on here. I say not. So maybe a phone call to them would be more proficient yankiwi to get your wish.
But then. How would they know who you are. What job title could you give them so they have a better understanding of what your job is and their infringment .
I say there are bigger and more important things to worry about and discuss on this forum.
But if you feel the need to maybe flick the club an email and they can talk to noddy at the track if they see it as an offense to the rules just to remind them of their obligations.
 

I guess theyre unbiased when they havent heard of the dogs nominated. Lol

Theyre worried about imports affecting our numbers. But we arent going to import rubbish with the ever increasing transport costs.
 
The odd one is a flop. But generally imports go to c2/3 if not higher. 
The cost of purchasing a greyhound in new zealand now has gone up dramatically over the past few years so it makes it tough trying to find one for new owners. 
 

Yeboah might as well have gotten 28 days, because i can almost guarantee he won't be going around the northern circuits in the next 4 weeks, because why risk dogs on a track you think is unsafe. Whether they are some of the best c5 dogs, or the battling c1's.
 
We all have our different perspectives on track conditions.
Some will want to race, some do not. Why give someone 28 days for the welfare of their animal.
 
I was not up there, so couldn't comment on track conditions, but when Dunedin was abandoned a few weeks ago, myself and Andy McCook were pulling our dogs out before they called it off.
We were going to get 28 days, but was called off after the next race when the vet stated he thought the track was the cause of an injury.
 
Good on you Steve, Kathy and Tony.
The right decision made in my opinion.
 
-Corey Steele-

Yeboah might as well have gotten 28 days, because i can almost guarantee he won't be going around the northern circuits in the next 4 weeks, because why risk dogs on a track you think is unsafe. Whether they are some of the best c5 dogs, or the battling c1's.
 
We all have our different perspectives on track conditions.
Some will want to race, some do not. Why give someone 28 days for the welfare of their animal.
 
I was not up there, so couldn't comment on track conditions, but when Dunedin was abandoned a few weeks ago, myself and Andy McCook were pulling our dogs out before they called it off.
We were going to get 28 days, but was called off after the next race when the vet stated he thought the track was the cause of an injury.
 
Good on you Steve, Kathy and Tony.
The right decision made in my opinion.
 
-Corey Steele-

Thats right, but then in saying that, sometimes incidents do happen, and calling a meeting off after one injury is not the way to go.
But when the track is determined to be the only factor causing the injury, something needs to be done. Either rectifying the problem on the track, or the last resort, calling the meeting.
 
My pet peeve at the moment, is stipes trying to over-rule trainers, when they want to pull dogs out for the welfare of the animal, by giving them 28 days and fines. Surely those trainers views should be heard, and allowing them to scratch should always be an option.
Even it was 10 day stand-down, which would help the integrity, so trainers aren't pulling dogs out for no reason and blaming the track.
28 days is a long time between pay days for trainers, sometimes the difference between eating and not. 
 
 

Yeboah might as well have gotten 28 days, because i can almost guarantee he won't be going around the northern circuits in the next 4 weeks, because why risk dogs on a track you think is unsafe. Whether they are some of the best c5 dogs, or the battling c1's.
 
We all have our different perspectives on track conditions.
Some will want to race, some do not. Why give someone 28 days for the welfare of their animal.
 
I was not up there, so couldn't comment on track conditions, but when Dunedin was abandoned a few weeks ago, myself and Andy McCook were pulling our dogs out before they called it off.
We were going to get 28 days, but was called off after the next race when the vet stated he thought the track was the cause of an injury.
 
Good on you Steve, Kathy and Tony.
The right decision made in my opinion.
 
-Corey Steele-

Yeboah might as well have gotten 28 days, because i can almost guarantee he won't be going around the northern circuits in the next 4 weeks, because why risk dogs on a track you think is unsafe. Whether they are some of the best c5 dogs, or the battling c1's.
 
We all have our different perspectives on track conditions.
Some will want to race, some do not. Why give someone 28 days for the welfare of their animal.
 
I was not up there, so couldn't comment on track conditions, but when Dunedin was abandoned a few weeks ago, myself and Andy McCook were pulling our dogs out before they called it off.
We were going to get 28 days, but was called off after the next race when the vet stated he thought the track was the cause of an injury.
 
Good on you Steve, Kathy and Tony.
The right decision made in my opinion.
 
-Corey Steele-