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Jockeys have been getting the 'drag' off horses forever. Meech is not helping her own cause by bleating about it and Payne should mind her own beeswax cos it's the owner's prerogative to decide who should ride the horse.

HI everyone Trump is running a comp on Derby Day  this Saturday at Flemington, with his winnings from an earlier comp.
The winner of the Derby day comp will have $250.00 to spend on a W/P bet on a single horse in the Melbourne Cup with all proceeds going to a racing Charity.
Rules are simple
Pick 1 horse in each race on Derby day and score points ONLY IF YOUR HORSE WINS
Group 1 races 3 points
Group 2 races 2 points
All other races 1 point.
Scratchings after posting go onto No 1 in the race if its scratched No 2 and so on... .
Entries close 1pm Saturday.
Please just enter Race number, Horse Number.
 
Good Luck  everyone and Thanks Trump for doing this...Cheers.
 
 

While you believe all the lies that come out of the Saviours mouth, along with his lying cohorts like Spicer, Conway, Sanders and Grisham at the White House...the "alternative facts" mob..
Ironic that you scream Fake News ad infinitum while supporting this lying scumbag, a despicable human being who enjoys belittling, abusing and criticising anyone that has an alternative view.
Saving the World my arse....just lining the family pockets with dirty deals....the Russians have him in the hip pocket.
Fortunately, it will end.....

Let's keep the TAS performance in perspective. Yes, it was a top run in an international field - and OP got a dream passage on/near the rail to save many lengths  - but he didn't win, in fact was well beaten by a horse that also drew wide, hadnt had a lead-up run in Oz, had some traffic to negotiate from a midfield position and showed brilliant acceleration on that tight turning track to win easily.
All the honours are with the winner imo.
 

Let's keep the TAS performance in perspective. Yes, it was a top run in an international field - and OP got a dream passage on/near the rail to save many lengths  - but he didn't win, in fact was well beaten by a horse that also drew wide, hadnt had a lead-up run in Oz, had some traffic to negotiate from a midfield position and showed brilliant acceleration on that tight turning track to win easily.
All the honours are with the winner imo.
 

Shit scared of the big buggers, iam a quick pat on the neck and escape man   , had me hands on plenty losing tickets over many years though sadly  , and few bills but it's all good fun . Enjoy conversing on here with others who have the same love of it all. Roll on Derby Day  and Breeders Cup next weekend .
TAS gives us something,  when carnival over we will be looking forward to Sydney in April and lead in with some local interest in the real big ones .

Let's keep the TAS performance in perspective. Yes, it was a top run in an international field - and OP got a dream passage on/near the rail to save many lengths  - but he didn't win, in fact was well beaten by a horse that also drew wide, hadnt had a lead-up run in Oz, had some traffic to negotiate from a midfield position and showed brilliant acceleration on that tight turning track to win easily.
All the honours are with the winner imo.
 

Let's keep the TAS performance in perspective. Yes, it was a top run in an international field - and OP got a dream passage on/near the rail to save many lengths  - but he didn't win, in fact was well beaten by a horse that also drew wide, hadnt had a lead-up run in Oz, had some traffic to negotiate from a midfield position and showed brilliant acceleration on that tight turning track to win easily.
All the honours are with the winner imo.
 

Let's keep the TAS performance in perspective. Yes, it was a top run in an international field - and OP got a dream passage on/near the rail to save many lengths  - but he didn't win, in fact was well beaten by a horse that also drew wide, hadnt had a lead-up run in Oz, had some traffic to negotiate from a midfield position and showed brilliant acceleration on that tight turning track to win easily.
All the honours are with the winner imo.
 

Let's keep the TAS performance in perspective. Yes, it was a top run in an international field - and OP got a dream passage on/near the rail to save many lengths  - but he didn't win, in fact was well beaten by a horse that also drew wide, hadnt had a lead-up run in Oz, had some traffic to negotiate from a midfield position and showed brilliant acceleration on that tight turning track to win easily.
All the honours are with the winner imo.
 

Commented just now on a Cox Plate thread . Non Grp 1 winner , non wfa winner  , non distance winner why would it not cause debate . 
Proved his worth , well done to Te Akau. Good ride up rails,  he was never gonna round that field 7 wide .
Magic Wand rated 114 up north half length behind . Underrated northern horse or overated , non winner this year ? What's your thoughts on her rating under or over .
 

Let's keep the TAS performance in perspective. Yes, it was a top run in an international field - and OP got a dream passage on/near the rail to save many lengths  - but he didn't win, in fact was well beaten by a horse that also drew wide, hadnt had a lead-up run in Oz, had some traffic to negotiate from a midfield position and showed brilliant acceleration on that tight turning track to win easily.
All the honours are with the winner imo.
 

need to remember he had a serious injury last year...they are probably erring on the side of caution with him and want to avoid hard tracks. He'll still have to improve some to get past these Japanese horses!

Goodonya RR....Hope you got plenty.....

She is still the 3rd highest rated horse left in the 2,000 Guineas and the 2nd highest rated horse left in the 1,000 Guineas, so on that basis not a bad price this weekend.

I'm not sure the racecourse amenities are going to  handle the  oldies PFP. They could be pushed to pressure  point, bordering on leakage!

From the Racing Post
For a country that enjoys nothing more than a bout of Pommie baiting, Australia has taken the annual British invasion on the Melbourne Cup with good grace. Perhaps that’s because British-trained horses do not have a great record in the country's most prestigious race.
There have been several near-misses but Cross Counter’s triumph last year was the first by a British trainer. Since Dermot Weld spirited the prize away from Australasia with Vintage Crop in 1993 there have been three wins for Ireland, two for France and one each for Japan and Germany.
At this stage it looks as though the most potent overseas challenge this year will come from Japan, which struck an early blow in the preamble when Mer De Glace landed the Caulfield Cup four days ago.
Another Japanese-trained runner Lys Gracieux is favourite for Saturday’s Cox Plate, which is Australia’s premier weight-for-age race. Both horses are owned by the U Carrot Racing syndicate, an offshoot of Northern Farm, which is an even more dominant breeding enterprise in Japan than Coolmore in Europe.
For horses trained outside Australia, the Caulfield Cup represents the starting gun in a frantic scramble for starting berths in the Melbourne Cup itself. There are numerous other springboards but it seems likely the Australian stayer, long since an endangered species, is about to plumb new depths.
A nadir was reached last year, when just three horses in the 22-strong field were bred in Australia. Of the top 20 horses in ante-post lists for this year’s race, all but three started their racing lives outside Australia – and of those three, two were bred in New Zealand.
This would have been unthinkable 50 years ago, when staying horses were still highly prized in Australia. And it would have been just as unthinkable 50 years ago to envisage an Australian horse winning a Group 1 sprint at Royal Ascot. But those axioms have been turned on their heads. Australia’s stayers are a pale shadow of their European counterparts, while Australian sprinters have no peer on turf anywhere in the world.
 
Ten Sovereigns; the July Cup winner proved no match for Australian sprinters in the Everest Edward Whitaker (racingpost.com/photos)  
We saw as much on Saturday, when Ballydoyle’s Ten Sovereigns finished stone cold last in the 12-runner The Everest, a Group 1 sprint over six furlongs. The colt who made most of the running to win the July Cup over the same distance was simply no match for Australia’s speed merchants, who are trained to sprint in a far more professional way than their European brethren.
Granted, Ten Sovereigns was racing around a bend for the first time, but Ascot’s stiff six furlongs down the straight track makes unusual demands of Australia’s sprinters and that does not stop them winning.
Ironically, this professional approach to training sprinters in Australia is in large part responsible for the dearth of stayers. Two-year-olds are prepped to hit the gates running, whatever their bloodlines. They cannot otherwise be competitive. An acute shortage of races for 'distance' horses is another contributing factor, and the collective sum of these parts is that breeding horses for long-distance races in Australia has become a futile pursuit.
Even so, imagine how it would feel if a 22-runner King George at Ascot featured ten runners who were trained on different continents – and of the remaining 12, seven or eight had started their careers outside Britain and had only recently been imported?
Actually, you don’t have to leave it to your imagination. Simply tune in to Saturday’s Vertem Futurity, for which 11 of the 12 entries are trained by Aidan O’Brien.
But that’s the reality of this year’s Melbourne Cup. Prominent among the home-trained contingent are Constantinople, Finche, Mirage Dancer and Mustajeer. They are all middle-distance/staying horses who featured prominently in Europe of late.
It’s not just the Futurity that has collapsed under O’Brien’s weight of numbers. The trainer’s fingerprints are all over the Melbourne Cup, too. Further to Constantinople, former Ballydoyle inmates with designs on the Cup include Houseman, Rostropovich and Yucatan. O’Brien himself has Hunting Horn, Il Paradiso, Magic Wand and Southern France engaged, while his son Joseph is responsible for Downdraft, Latrobe, Master Of Reality and Twilight Payment.
They won’t all run, of course, but it says everything about the contemporary influence of the father-and-son axis that a dozen credible contenders for a race 10,000 miles from Ireland have passed through O’Brien hands.
It also demonstrates how successful the Victoria Racing Club has been in promoting the Cup to an international audience. Any Aussie reticence at the massed ranks of invaders pays no heed to how dire the quality of the race would be were it a purely domestic affair.
But perhaps the most striking message from the Melbourne Cup in the 21st century is how quickly the canvas can change. Those redoubtable Aussie gallopers of yesteryear are no longer. They have been replaced by sprinters whose exploits 50 years ago would barely have resonated in a country with a once-proud history of staying horses.
The BHA was right to incentivise the production of middle-distance and staying horses in Britain even though they still dominate abroad. The slope gets more slippery the longer it goes untended; in just half a century Australia has regressed from championing their cause to presiding over their extinction. Where would the Melbourne Cup be in the visitors’ absence?

So you expect clubs with assets who have been treated appalling by the likes of NZTR and operated within their means and utilised their volunteer base to continue operating ,to front up and borrow money ,so that the same appalling cycle of treatment can occur again?  
I hope allot of these clubs think about what they are doing if that's the case.

Werribee whispers...worth a read....
https://www.racing.com/news/2019-10-18/news-whispers-from-werribee-caulfield-cup-day

Suckers all right , the 15000 new beneficiaries will cost about $8,000,000 a year to keep just for one year , the only reason we have 15000 more beneficiaries is government policy . They don't know what they are doing .

Anyone else nauseated by these Trackside adverts? “equal of any in the word" "world class”. Really? Compared with where? Probably somewhere English isn’t the first language!

Honestly, we are sick of monotone preview shows, amateur-hour “betting strategies”, and talking heads.
Come on Trackside get off your arses and produce something worthwhile. How about some weekly trackwork – and not just 5 strides past the winning post and pointless trainer’s waffle. And then some stewards footage and sectional timing analysis – proper pre and post-race analysis.

And on the day would it be asking too much to see every runner pre-race? And for more than 2 seconds?
 

Shown with James  Cummings on Risa site   , no trials yet . 
 

Ouch!

Interesting presumption from someone who may like being critical for no apparent reason.

Where are the prices... Won at the trials today making it 2 from 2.