Dibbles

Change of ownership does not seem to mean anything to horses that are sent overseas as we sold one at the Sth Island Sales a few years ago who is currently racing overseas and he is still on the NZ Racing site in our name as the owners. :confused:

Thank you for posting the link, I tried to watch it from the Bloodhorse website last night and had no luck. She is amusing to watch and makes you heart stop when she comes from so far back.

Kay I think that the first day of festival was OK but the second day was just as bad as Friday (my thoughts others may disagree). When you look at all the retail shops all having sales and discounting flat out and what I have been told the hospitality industry is quiet as well it is not just our industry that is feeling the pinch. Speaking to the trainers at the sales the down fall was that the NZ smaller trainers who normally support this sale did not have the owners who were willingly to invest in a racehorse at the moment and the ones who did were lucky as it was a buyers market.

Steve saw the ones he was putting through of ours and Clint had seen them when he viewed the Sth Island horses 10 days earlier but some of ours were not viewed by an auctioneer at all. I did hear of some that were going to the rugby and think that it was worth a try.

ghostie re your point about marketing, I would like to know who NZ Thoroughbred Marketing work for as I thought their roll was to help promote things like this and the only promoting I saw in the weekly newsletters were media releases provided by our local branch of the NZTBA. We pay the same entry fee as the festival sale so I would have expected the same sort of marketing effort. Also did everyone have an auctioneer look at their 2yrs before the sale?

I agree Pam with your comments and would like to add some more

If you are going to the Sth Island Sales have a look at same of the 2yrs by Remind as I have seen a couple and he is leaving a nice type.

I totally agree and was thinking the same this week, have enjoyed their news in the past but have found over the last year that the direction has charged and the middle-small breeders have been forgotten.

How about NZ Thoroughbred Marketing is promoting the sales not part of their job description as well?? Do they not get a percentage of the commission that we pay NZB for the sale of our horses and from our broodmare registrations??? Please correct me if I am wrong or are we just not important as the big establishments????

Sorry it is not so much the 2yr old race and I know that our strength is not 2yrs olds it

how do we compete will this incentive scheme..... Singapore introduces two-year-old series SINGAPORE, Jun 7, 2010 As an incentive for horse owners to buy an Australian bred youngster, a series of two-year-old races will be introduced next year. Backed by three Australian companies

I think that you can still register your foal as I see that another stud who went under had not filed their 2008 stallion return but the foals born in 2009 have been accepted, but all it would take is a phone call the NZ Racing to check. The problem I have is if you are not sure of your mares foaling date you can not go an check online.

When are they going to file their stallion returns for last season and update their website?

I agree Kay there has to be something done now or we will just see more people give up breeding with the fear of getting a filly. I do not see offering filly deals as a way of solving the problem even though it is a nice gesture and I know this has been discussed before but I would really like to see the studs that are doing this to put the money into sponsoring filly races as I still feel that they are only devaluing a filly with these refund or free return deals. Why can we not have the same respect for fillies as they do overseas?

Sorry not Michael Stiassny and do not know him, but would have liked to have seen the Kitten's Joy yearling as Kitten

Thanks for those replies, I follow the American racing and breeding a bit (not the European racing and breeding which probably explains my lack of knowledge of the racing conditions and stallions - sorry) and have always liked Kitten's Joy and Artie Schiller (who already shuttles to Aus) as stallions for down under which was probably why I was asking in the first place.

As I said in my previous post I have a great respect Sadler

I am not knocking the stallion as he is a champion in every way possible and it is great to see that he and his sons are working with the mares down under but in the past there have been several sons that have not set the world on fire. I would be interested peoples thoughts to why the ones in the past were not so successful and the latest couple seem to be leaving stars as there is a large number of this line in or coming into NZ so we will have plenty to choice from.

Also Lot 19 the highest priced weanling was by My Halo.

One thought we had was maybe have the sale from say Sunday to Sunday so that the last day of the festival is not on the following Monday as maybe people take the week of for the sales and it seemed that numbers were down on the Monday. I know it makes it hard as the Saturday has races so not sure how to work the days around that.

Freda that sounds a bit one eyed and your comment is unfair on the other studs in the south island who do just as good a job. Would you like it if someone made the same sort of general comment about Riccarton Trainers.

Just saw the ad on track side for the standardbred sales and after looking at their website and viewing some of the videos I feel they are doing a more professional job such as the whole horse always being in the centre of the shot and always having a shot of the horse walking away. I know it is a time consuming job and they have a lot of horses to do but so do the guys doing the standardbreds. They also have all the options available that were mentioned in an early post with vendors being able to but up their own photos, videos and also other package deals which seem to be reasonably priced with the quality of what they are providing. Would be interested in other people thoughts. http://www.sazzzfthestars.com/nzp2010 http://www.sazzzfthestars.com/content/video-photography-packages

There are some of Twin Pines yearlings up for the Select Sale and I was impressed with the way their horses walked out. NZ Thoroughbred Marketing are available for filming yearlings for all the three sessions as far as I know at $150 plus gst per horse but would be interested if anyone has heard differently. I agree it would be good if there a place for a good still photo of the yearlings as well.

I saw these results from another site (NZ starters only) - 08/09 - 18 starters - 5 placed 09/10 - 10 starters - 1 winner, 2 placed He must have some more coming through soon as he had quite a lot of trial starters last season.