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    Insider reacted to Lloyd Vivian in who to send my mare to   
    Louise
    I'm interested in your comments a little earlier in this thread in relation to Super Easy. While I don't have a mare in foal to him or anything, I love the horse personally and my inspection of him showed him to be beautifully conformed individual. In addition, his racetrack ability was right up there with the best - check out his Singapore Guineas win if you're unsure!! As far as I am aware, he had no soundness issues of any description during his career and I thoroughly agree that he will have particular appeal to Asian buyers, as well as many others, I suspect - so I am very curious as to why you would add a rider to your comments that "...progeny must pass the vet."
     
    This surely applies to every racehorse sold anywhere - and in light of the fact that his only progeny are newborn foals [ and very impressive too, I might add!] - I find this a somewhat strange comment.? It is very easy for comments like this to be misconstrued - would you care to elaborate???
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    Insider got a reaction from Irishbay in Raise The Flag tops the Select Sale on averages   
    Go the South.
    Prediction! Zacinto will make a splash next year too.
    Let's hope that both young stallions are something special.
    They are bred to be! 
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    Insider reacted to tasman man 11 in Can not be true rumour....Silent Achiever in NZ Cup ?????   
    Funniest post ever !!!
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    Insider reacted to Pegs Pride in Rising Romance   
    I respect opinions and we are all entitled to them.
     
    In regards to Logan Racing, Donna and Dean Logan, Ekraar, Rising Romance here's what I KNOW.
     
    Logan Racing/ Donna and Dean Logan
    Honest, Professional, Expert trainers (best people in racing) Superb judgement 
    Donna kept telling me, Rising Romance's preparation for the Caulfield Cup exactly on target and I for one NEVER doubted it.
    I believed 100% RR was going to win it. Donna's after-race comments were spot on, gracious and truthful. A marvellous advertisement for our industry.
    Their care of horses is paramount and Donna and Dean will do what is best for the horse and owners.
    And they sure know how to train the Ekraars!
     
    James McDonald is now not just a very good NZ jockey. He has joined the very top echelon of international riders and I dare anyone to dispute this. When Darley and Godolphin book him to ride their horses this great lad/jockey has made it to the highest level of his profession. I believe he surpasses Jimmy Cassidy and will be judged the best rider NZ has produced.
    His ride in the Cup was flawless.
     
    Ekraar is one of our top stallions for those who want to breed great stayers. (You are entitled to think I am biased in this view). When Peter and I took a breeding right in him we had little money to do so, but had a great belief in what has proven to be correct, It's been a great shame that the top studs and Bloodstock industry has not acknowledged it. Selling progeny has largely been a "Festival" affair. Thank God we were advised not to go down that path.
     
    Rising Romance. One of NZ's top stayers, and there'll be more to come from her. The Logan's are not going to see her broken down.
    Congratulations to them, Rising Romance, the owners, James McDonald. The whole New Zealand Racing Industry should be feeling enormously proud of and for them.
    Full stop!
     
    P.S. thank you for the quinella, trifecta and E/W bet on a wonderful Kiwi horse.
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    Insider reacted to tasman man 11 in Back from Peru   
    A bit negative bif.....actually a lot negative.
     
    Can't see the point of your post !!!!
     
    You could have summarised it......Hey guys ,I've just arrived back from Peru !!!
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    Insider reacted to N1MUE in Betting leakage   
    Or maybe Kiwis who like to bet on NZ races, will bet with the NZ TAB rather than going to offshore agencies, because those offshore agencies are on a level playing field and no longer able to offer better odds?
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    Insider reacted to jess in Des C got gelded?   
    Was reminded just now what it is that frustrates me about Des on the radio.    
     
    A caller was referring to an earlier interview (that I hadn't heard) that another Trackside presenter had done with Trudy Thornton recently.  It seems that Trudy had made reference to David Walker and said something along the lines that he wasn't the only one "doing it" (illicit betting, presumably).  Today's caller went on to ponder whether perhaps the RIU should be talking to Trudy about her comments - see what she knew etc?
     
    Well!  -, Des hosed it down quicker than you can call triple one! - despite the fact the caller's comments amounted not so much to a fire - as the tiniest flare of a new-struck match!
     
    He even went on to place his own spin on what Trudy had actually meant by what she had said (apparently he is able to inhabit her mind and thoughts now) - and to opine that her words were tongue in cheek ( and therefore of little consequence).
     
    And quickly Des moved right along to middle-aged Mary of Mangaweka who wanted to talk about how well her dollar each way in the 3rd at the Bay went the other day .... (ok - I confess this caller is my own invention - but you get the drift ...) 
     
    Don't get me wrong - Des is chatty, amiable and reasonably knowledgable.  But IMO he is just so goddamn timid!!  Any time there is any caller with anything to say which has the merest hint that it could spark some lively debate or (god forbid) controversy - Des toes the party line and dilutes what's been said till all we're left with is luke warm and vanilla flavored.
     
    I accept he has to be careful of anyone saying anything slanderous - and I acknowledge he's entitled to adopt the stance where he personally refuses to be critical of our racing bodies or individuals.  But I wish he would stop shutting down every conversation that might stray into areas which might be seen as provocative,  If he could relax and impose himself less (velvet-gloved as his dicatorship is ...   )  - I, for one, would enjoy his programme a lot more. 
     
    C'mon Des - just for once - if you can't unleash the stallion within - please let other people walk theirs out of the stable now and again ....  
     
    Just my take on it.
    J
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    Insider got a reaction from Lloyd Vivian in Priority   
    I am on the board at last with ROCKFAST, yesterday.
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    Insider got a reaction from Black Kirrama in Priority   
    I am on the board at last with ROCKFAST, yesterday.
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    Insider reacted to hedley in The Best and Worst Tracks In The North   
    ..love Rotorua..except when a true "Good".
     
    love Tauranga..as when they first raced on the newly renovated surface...they recomissioned too early, and that's found the track tricky when any moisture's been about [because the first too sooner meeting aback, was on rain affected ground and it sinceforth's become an orthodox form appraisal nightmare..which i actually enjoy finding the particular animal suited To those conditions]
     
    Ellerslie ain't too flash, and i like it best when yielded at all..right through to very heavy.
     
    Love Avondale..but you need a rider to know how to ride the arena.
     
    Like Hastings, but the more the rail's out..the less i like it as riders And or the dictated off'f the front tends to find many unsuited and out of the money i find.
     
    love Tauherenikau in all conditions.
     
    Love Trentham fullstop!
     
    don't much like Awapuni., Used to...but the sand in the track's ballsed it up over recent years., but i do still get my fair share of long prices there..but it's harder work for less overall profit.
     
    don't much like Te Rapa., Used to..but the sand in the track's changed it's reliability for the runners i find that should be suited..but too often aren't., i find a lot of horses don't run up to the form of gathering i expect from them on the day.
     
    don't like Ruakaka at all., it'd be the one track i have to really think hard about finding any confidence for any one runner., and if you happen to find one that'll travel well on it, then more often than not, other riders and their mounts will balls you up., horses don't like sand in their faces..and plenty can be found flying around the eyes and nostrils There on a particular quotient of moisture in the surface...particularly on a deteriorating track surface.
     
    don't like Matamata., too many local yokel coups there., i front up when it's nice and wet though!...even tricky Slow footing i'll at least break even for the day.
     
    don't like New Plymouth at all..except for some wet ground days there...when there's an even looking field on paper..as the field to punt on., if the rail's out then it's look out! [or just look on for free]
     
    Te Awamutu's about stuffed by now..but i'll usually front up on rain affected footing
     
    Love both the East coast venues..except when they're too firm.
     
    used to like Paeroa!
     
    Like Otaki..and fortunately, the rail's often in the True position...but Loved it in the old days with their false cutaway rail at the top of the home straight!
     
    Like Te Teko., like it best when yielded a tad..or worse
     
    Like Taupo...same as for Te Teko!
     
    Love all the South Island's West Coast circuit!
     
    Don't like what Riccarton's become..and dislike the way the track's surface's lead-up are begrudged the punter's knowledges., it's an abomination now
     
    Like Timaru and Oamaru except when too firm
     
    Love Wingatui
     
    Love Cromwell
     
    Love Invercargill [Ascot park]
     
    Love Omakau
     
    ..[have i left any out of either Island?]
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    Insider reacted to sunlineboy in The Best and Worst Tracks In The North   
    Best - Ellerslie
    Worst - Tauranga
     
    I base these on race biases. 
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    Insider reacted to TOM(the other Molloy) in At Last! Good On You Wheels   
    With all due respect what the hell would Glenda Hughes know about racing?
     
    That is the issue with both NZRB and NZTR - the governance(and management) lacks any empathy with the industry.  In the case of NZTR in days gone by with the district committee system at least you had to earn your place around the board table by progressing through the ranks.  Some may have been incompetent but at least the had the interests of the industry at heart(and they knew the interests because they had invariably been there and done that)
     
    From the perspective of the NZRB it is clear that the Clubs and the participants are just a major irritation.  They would much prefer that they go away and die(in the case of the clubs) or give up on the game(the participants) so that thay(the NZRB and TAB) can run their empire answering to nobody and using imported product and incur costs to their hearts content.
     
    What we need is a decent racing minister(with a feeling for the game not just out to grab votes and industry adoration) and a system whereby the governance answers to the participants.
     
    As an aside can anyone name me an imported CEO who has actually done a great job in this Country in any industry?  This Fonterra bloke might be all right(though the farmers aren't too happy with escalating costs there either) but the Scotsman they brought in to run Telecom didn't cover himself in glory and the ones they import to run racing are, from where I sit, a total disaster.
     
    With technology advancing the way it is (and gettting cheaper!)the wage increases ought to be being offset by that and in any case they tell me the presenters are paid a pittance and do the job for love.  I appreciate there are a lot more staff than that but like a typical government department we have to have an explosion of bums on seats behind seats to grow our little(Yeah right!) empire.
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    Insider reacted to Trump in At Last! Good On You Wheels   
    But Hesi, haven't expenses climbed 50% over the last 5 years or do? If so, how can that be justified and how has it improved the industry?
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    Insider reacted to hedley in At Last! Good On You Wheels   
    ..as the first person to've identified the empire building and then posting vehement alarms of protest about this, it is not before time [about 5yrs too late] that someone of 'standing' and prominence..has finally taken podius proclaimation of it. [i began my mantra about eight years ago by now!]
     
    halve the 'city of suits'..and there you have the money for track and infrastructure resurrection...as well as revitalising the stakes recovery pyramid.
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    Insider reacted to bestbets in At Last! Good On You Wheels   
    Just like government departments and councils and many other organisations  within this country they are corrupt and unaccountable. You only ever need one bad captain of a ship to sink all the hard work that is done over the years of many good captains, so easy to spend money that isn't yours and to be paid  large sums to do it regardless of the results of your decisions.
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    Insider reacted to Berri in Owners Banned from Stabling Area@Races   
    Centrofold.....you are barking mad. First you put a case forward that an owner is going to walk into the stalls, syringe in hand, in front of everyone, and are going to nobble the horse with some sort of juice. In my 35 odd conscious years of being intimately involved in the horse industry, at a time when ALL THE OWNERS have been free to go to get up close with their horse, and give them with some juice, I have NEVER heard of anyone doing it. Why would they start now?!?!
     
    That was an argument for you preventing owners from visiting their horses in the tie up stalls. You are as mad as a March hare.
     
    Now I'm going to talk about something serious. It's all about the horse industry. From a young age I was able to go into the back of the stage....the tie up stalls....and watch horses. I talked with people, patted horses and watched. I had my own theories and took them with me as I grew up. My interest is PROBABLY because I could get up close. This enticed me to work for DJ O'Sullivan for a calendar year where Mike Moroney was my room mate. If I hadn't been able to watch the horses I may not have got as involved as I have. As a result I took my kids into the tie ups, on back packs originally, because I wanted them to experience that environment. I would know 150 people who started the same way.
     
    Now that's gone. Where is the bridge for the young people to have the link of childhood experiences and their adult interests? By reducing the exposure you reduce the interest so our kids don't get interested.
     
    And then there is the horse. I personally think most of my horses recognise me. They're not dumb. Apart from me wanting to encourage them, support the staff and trainer looking after the horse, I actually like cooing over the horse. I like feeling the skin, looking at the brightness of the eye, trying to understand the character, especially before a saddle gets near them. I want to understand where their personality is....not because I bet...because I don't....but because I want to judge the race based on what I think the horse was feeling at the time. And then I also want to see the opposition so that I can gauge where we fit. I can't do that anywhere else because by the time the saddle is on there is too much event interference in respect of the horse's true feelings.
     
    You're all absolutely mad if you don't think we're closing the door on the future by acting complacently and allowing the law to exclude us from getting a good deal. About three or four years ago I was stopped from going into the tie ups before the race. I went and saw the secretary of the club at the time and told him that if I couldn't go in I would prevent the horse from running and I would suck up the fine. The trainer supported me. I was given a badge to go in which was simply a nonsense because he knew me and knew I would be true to my word.
     
    And Centrofold....you don't need to respond. It wouldn't help any of us.
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    Insider reacted to biff in Owners Banned from Stabling Area@Races   
    Berri I salute you, what an eloquent and succinct post, on behalf of all us with at least 1/2 a brain, thank you. I wish you all good night from Sin City.
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    Insider reacted to rdytdy in Owners Banned from Stabling Area@Races   
    Just reading through this thread again and it appears an inference of comparing owners to employees.
     
    In actual fact owners are the employers. Firstly they own the horse, employ trainers to train that horse, employ the jockey and employ the float company,
     
    Regardless of OSH welding the big stick etc history has shown that an absolute miniscule amount of owners have ever received an injury seeing their horse in the stalls area.
     
    Berri has pointed out out that anyone, including children, can wander around the sales pavillions amongst unbroken yearlings, weanlings etc People can also wander down the stalls at trials, again with young immature horses around. One can go to polo matches and be amongst the horses, pony club events etc.
     
    Yet responsible owners are barred on race day (unless they pay $20 for a stablehand licence with this magic piece of paper somehow making it inherently safer).
     
    People don't need all this nannying. NZ society has become overly bureacratic and over protective wrapping everyone in cotton wool so that they can't do anything any more. It is a damn shame.    
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    Insider reacted to Berri in Owners Banned from Stabling Area@Races   
    For heavens sake....do gooders and bureaucrats (OSH/ ACC and the like) as a ridiculous minority dictating what the majority should do!!! Makes me sick. Is Karaka going to be banned from allowing us to look at the yearlings which is far more dangerous than the races?
     
    The racing industry needs to negotiate a workable solution and that may include reformatting the stable design in order to allow owners to interact with their horses. The more you disassociate the owner to the horse, the less reason the owner has to become involved.
     
    And all you people who are on this site saying fair enough.... keep the owners away from getting involved in their pride an joy......go away and be involved in another business. Take your pommie attitudes and debate that in pommieland. You are advocating the slow but gradual death knell of the industry as a participative industry.
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    Insider got a reaction from elbow in Owners Banned from Stabling Area@Races   
    Let's get very clear who brought this idea in. It was an Aussie by the name of George Cameron ( in his previous position ) now CEO of the Auckland Racing Club, not someone in Petone.

    Jess I agree 100% with you, it's taking so much enjoyment away from being an owner.

    In my instance I became a licenced stable hand to get around the problem!

    Life is a risk but as individuals surely it is up to each of us to look after ourselves.

    Personally I feel that the rule brought in about 5 or 6 years has played a part in the downturn of owners and when I asked George at a meeting on what advantages he saw from the change he refused to comment. It was at a meeting where he did a presentation about the ARC and at the end of the meeting he took questions.
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    Insider got a reaction from Lloyd Vivian in Owners Banned from Stabling Area@Races   
    Let's get very clear who brought this idea in. It was an Aussie by the name of George Cameron ( in his previous position ) now CEO of the Auckland Racing Club, not someone in Petone.

    Jess I agree 100% with you, it's taking so much enjoyment away from being an owner.

    In my instance I became a licenced stable hand to get around the problem!

    Life is a risk but as individuals surely it is up to each of us to look after ourselves.

    Personally I feel that the rule brought in about 5 or 6 years has played a part in the downturn of owners and when I asked George at a meeting on what advantages he saw from the change he refused to comment. It was at a meeting where he did a presentation about the ARC and at the end of the meeting he took questions.
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    Insider reacted to jess in Labour Party & Racing   
    Racing is a third-rate portfolio when it comes to the National party .... along with rivers you can swim in, sustainable agriculture and owning the land we live on ....
     
    Sexual orientation is neither here nor there when it comes to issues that big IMHO ...
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    Insider got a reaction from racingsouthdude in A couple of ideas   
    Personally I think that Mooseman deserves a Red Card or at least a Yellow one.
    This site has lost a number of regular posters for one reason or another and it is replies like Mooseman's that is driving them away.
     
    Aaron, they were a couple of good thoughts from you, well worth discussing.
     
    Keep up the good work, train some more winners and win on the punt.
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    Insider got a reaction from meomy in What did Bayliss "achieve"?   
    6. Sold their major asset - the Petone HO building and have leased it back.
    My experience of that sort of thing always means; it will cost you more money!
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    Insider reacted to hedley in Breaking News Alert   
    ..they've recently 'sold' the punting clientel to a hemisphere corporate called SKY, who are global in their 'hemispheres'.
    the t.a.b. will be next..either in a 'twist' like Free.to.View..to SKY, or else a straightout overt sellout to a N.S.W. agency.
     
    a Stiassny 'pupil' might then be appointed to finish of the rest of the 'receiving'..by bludgeoning through a "One Racing" centralisation of thoroughbred racing.
    ..that'll ensure the industry will further die, with a major diminishment of participents..and incomes being able to be derived From racing., that'll then see N.Z.thoroughbred racings being a 'Leggo stickle brick'...most easily clickable into any other hemisphere corporate that suits., most probabley a N.S.W. one.
     
    [the Canterbury Jockey Club..have certainly helped to hinder South Island's racings, by stuffing their track autonomously..ignoring best practice or anything like it.]
     
    you were all warned about 'the star line up' that's been the recent past appointments to our executives, but chose to hold them high on a pedastal of promise...while they delivered you the opposite, and spun'n'spun and spun some more in their press releases, and creatively accounted their per annum figures.
     
    we're nearly stuffed by now, as predicted some 6 years ago.
    all we Do have is a 'city' of suits...bleeding off'f the Stakes recovery Pyramid..that Still nobody wants to broach nor 'rock the boat'
    ...sad sad stuff New Zealand