Uriah Heap

Thank goodness someone has come onto this thread to correct blatant misinformation spreading, and to break up the Gruff - TA - Chevy anti-vax wank-fest, they've got going.

Barely any talk of the "Cost of Living Crisis", which I find quite refreshing.

That's interesting about time in Melbourne wph I had a similar rugby upbringing to yourself (although not quite that successful in school - but did play Senior club). Then like yourself, I lived in Melbourne for a time and got exposed to AFL. Now back in NZ I'm envious as all hell that we can't have a game with the flow, excitement and crowds of Aussie Rules. Like the 90,000 for Collingwood v Carlton; Otago vs Wellington (NPC) should get a passionate crowd of 25,000 minimum. I think the three things Rugby Union could take from AFL are - 1. No cards - incidents are reviewed post game and players banned accordingly (extended bans - so it really hurts your team.) 2. Clock stops when ball not in play. 3. TMO only rules on groundings over the line.

Like wph, I have lost interest in the international rugby game. I agree with these points he makes, that might resurrect my interest. More points for a try; 7 sounds good (I'd also add - "all conversions to be taken from a set point" - maybe 15 meters in from touch). TMO - Gone (Ref and his touch judges officiate) A Timekeeper - Clock stops for stoppages.(You don't need your stopwatch wph, the stats are available and the longest the ball was in play at this Rugby World Cup was the AB's Ireland game, and it was 41 minutes ????). Disagree with the no subs. Modern game much more physical than the Glory Days and subs needed. Even though I think he's taking the piss, I also like MikeNZ's idea of Tier 1 nations play one or two men short against minnows. (Like a golf handicap)

The All Blacks v Ireland World Cup match was a great contest. It reignited my passion for International rugby, which had been seriously on the wane. And Boks get up this morning. All that talk about France and Ireland, but when the heat goes on, look who come out victorious...yet again. Let's hope both AB's and Boys haven't knackered themselves for their semi-final matches.

Largely depends how old you are. Judging by your posts I'd guess you're around 95 years old; so yes the 4 jabs were necessary.

Congrats getting the $18 TT, for a team that had played fairly well the previous season. Both AFL and NRL Finals were outstanding games. Hard for Rugby Union to match that, but we'll see....???

I like Tony Lee, but think whp makes a valid point about his calls on Saturday. I noticed, at least in those early races, he was focusing on horses that were battling into 4th and 5th at best. Still, it's not a major and he's such an icon it will be a sad day when he goes.

It's become a lolly scramble. I can't see any way either of them are going to pay for all they're promising.

A League man who appreciates his Aussie Rules? You are a rare breed indeed Turnagain Tommy. I'll be sitting down tomorrow evening and flicking between the races from Aus and the MCG Grand Final, of what is undoubtably the greatest sport in the world. At Half time I'll fire up the BBQ and then cheer home the Mighty Fitzroy Lions to victory.... All sing - "Go Lions Brisbane Lions we'll kick the winning goal...."

U calling me dumb??? Yeah, I'd agree I'm just an average bloke. I look out and I see Covid came - people died in large numbers - we got a vaccine - now people don't die in large numbers. Climate - I see much more about droughts; heat waves and floods on TV than I ever used too. To me, the climate seems more volatile. I ask "Why is that?" So I read Race Cafe for the considered opinions of Gruff; Hedley; Tripple A etc; Then I listen to Scientists - and then I weigh things up.

The man's got a damn cheek to say "I'm draining the swamp", when he pulls of moves like this phone call.

Gee, that phone call doesn't sound good does it. It's straight out of the Bullies handbook. I really like the (Republican) Georgia Secretary of States calm reply - "Respectfully, President Trump: What you're saying is not true." How many times could you use this line in regard to former President Trump??

There is an immediate problem when some players take the knee or acknowledge national anthem, and others don't. That's bad for a team. They're not united.

I dunno about Chilie, but giving Maori some say in the water ways via Co-Governance doesn't threaten me in any way.

Hedley Jordan = Old Mans Beard. Suffocating yet another Thread on RaceCafe.

I'm happy to put my hand up and say I believe in Science and what Scientists tell us. You dispute much of what Science tells us, particularly in regard to vaccines and climate change. I'm always keen to hear both sides, so I need to know - Where did you study; how long did you study for; and what are your qualifications?

Co governance is not the threat you believe it to be Tripple A.

I got to a couple of games in Wellington and found it a lot of fun. Weather mild; Crowds upbeat, Mexican waves; my companions kept handing me beers; I swapped teams halfway through one game - Loved it! Reminded me you gotta get out and support these events when they come along.

The World Meteorological Organisation have found July 2023 to be the hottest month on Earth since records began.

Was former President Trump a compulsive liar from an early age? Probably! What can't be disputed is the influence of gay lawyer, Roy Cohn, on Trump, from mid 70's to mid 80's. Cohn was corrupt, ruthless and taught Trump the tactics he uses to this day. Exploit power; Instill fear. "Attack; Counterattack and never apologise." Cohn was eventually unmasked and disbarred. He died in 1986. Trump has never been able to find a suitable replacement, but certainly continues to follow Cohn's mantra.

I like the NZ Netball coach. I find she has a calm and succinct manner when speaking, including a touch of humour at the right time. However, netball as a sport, I find very hard to watch.

High intelligence and very low morals, would be my call.

An appropriate time to bring this thread back in from the cold. With record high temperatures and prolonged heatwaves being experienced in the US; China; Southern Europe and the Middle East; I need our resident ACT voting; racist; climate change denier to explain it away, so I might rest easy.