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All-round outstanding results for Jamie Richards stable today,
And great to see the Lindsays win big too !

All-round outstanding results for Jamie Richards stable today,
And great to see the Lindsays win big too !

Justifying this action on the basis it reduces revenue for the TAB is a crock.
Firstly the participants probably pay more attention to the Hastings fields (in this case) than normal when they make their picks. A significant proportion will be following their picks via the TAB and betting on them.
Secondly BGP has brought more turnover to the TAB than most other developments in recent years I would guess. I accept that doesn't justify a breach of law if there is one here. But for goodness sake let's not have anyone posting here talking about the $9k deductions foregone by the TAB

Please Greg ,
You confusing me with someone else....I'm quite happy to have my say ,when discussing topics I have an interest in.
The topic of the thread does show that some progress is taking place and bankruptcy has been stalled for now but until change takes place in racing and more centralisation /rationalisation accrues IMO NZ racing can't have a bright future .
These folk you locking horns with here ,claim passion in the Industry yet other than own a few horses and muck out a few stables they obviously burdened with personal regional bias which badly effects their judgement.If they were really passionate they would be working on committees , in clubs etc doing something useful rather than spreading negativity on social media.
They claim to want progress , its change they don't want !
And you can tell them what rest home I in , doubt you will know.........the care here is top class , I'm having a ball !

Haha....1950's , they  often rode track work with no helmet/skull caps !
A lot of the population had false teeth ! 
Camera on finish line was very new.....etc 

I watched it online....55 mins......mainly to see what it was that people seemed to miss.
I had never watched a full 'show' before ,sometimes just watching a few minutes of something of interest.The presenters are good harness guys ,but there was a lot of waffle about the NZ Cup /Dominion group 1's coming up in 7 weeks time.
Personally it didn't interest me a lot.....talking about the odds for the NZ cup , the possible field , the starting abilities of the main contenders is same ole ,same ole IMO.....boring.
Had brief interviews with a couple of big players.....MPurdon , RGreen , BOrange.
Boring would be the one word to describe the whole show.
If you watch the efforts of  Nigel , Andrew ,Jo etc with their live streaming on racedays plus the picking sessions and sheets ...far more interesting....plus stables like the Allstars have their own up to date websites and HRNZ's also has  current 'stories' of interest.
 IMO Interesting ,  events like the Junior Drivers series organised by the young drivers themselves deserved more than 20 seconds mention.
Understandably the presenters will not say anything controversial so its very sanitised ,chat from two studios.
Maverick views/guests unlikely to see the light of day.
Even allowing for it being the first show back and the current uncertainty over Covid I don't see it as a 'must watch' !
I'd mark it 2 out of 10 !

The Doggies are making ground on Harness as far as the betting public is concerned.
No doubt influenced by the fact there are so many more doggy races available to have a dabble on.
Just counting NZ races ,the doggies have more races than  gallops and harness combined.
NZ Harness 'lucky' it had no NZ gallops to contend with yesterday , though plenty of doggies and gallops from 9 different countries !!
Geez.
One wonders if Harness getting the best possible deal from the TAB and how much of this is self inflicted......lack of unity , lack of strong combined voice etc etc.
Interesting seeing the last 2 x Sundays how the First 4 pools can grow by some $20 k a race once a jackpot situation arises......probably a lot of Australian money in this ,but it shows folk are looking to bet on bigger pools .
IMO harness needs to do more to help itself......sort out the ongoing Management issues , get consistency in stipe issues ,handicapping ,programming etc.
On a positive note ,the low cost streaming of picks and interviews by the likes of Nigel , Andrew and Jo etc where the faces of many drivers and little known participants come into your house online is IMO adding a new dimension and well worth looking out for. Much better than being hooked into the endless TV coverage  of doggies.
But doggies betting on  NZ TAB fast closing in on Harness.
 

Bargain priced horses are always the best. Another example - Rothfire, fave for the big Sydney races. Cost $10k but the Nigerians scammed the first $10k so Heathcote paid twice. Still $20k. Takeover Target, Black Caviar, the list goes on. Back to the topic - it’s the Punter. That’s where “all” the $ comes from. Without the punter there is no racing and that’s why NZ racing is bad - it’s a closed shop. It will never work because there are not enough big punters in NZ. 

Huey , you seem a very negative person ,and how you enjoy dissecting my posts looking for a wrong word ,an error.
This is a forum ...I write my own opinion based on my own experiences and participation.
The restricted comment was into the referral to  the Karaka races as restricted , cos they are ....only horses who pay a fee at the Sales can enter...ie the are restricted.I replied .
AS to generating revenue....you think about it.....The races are linked to the sales which attracts International visitors and investors ,often an Aussie horse and/or jockey or two.Better than normal publicity , good attendance and punting , and attracts many 'new' and 'younger' folk on the day and is one of BGP 's big day. It is a great day ,again IMO.
Does it generate revenue.......you work that out.
I'm sure your tag -team will join in.....the ones who want Timaru developed as a state of art racing centre.....and no need to touch the track !History shows it can get wet / heavy there like most of NZ !
I know a little bit about the South Island and its racing........I have probably lived in the South Island for longer than you and your tag-team mates who will need to come to your assistance.
Don't bother reading my posts......ignore them ,thanks !
As for the owners who missed a start at Timaru ,I feel for them cause happened to me many ,many times especially with Maidens and R65. You need to get some form and move up the rankings to avoid the ballot. Its happened for years and I know the feeling.
I also know that NZ owners are very resilient , take abysmal returns ,increasing costs etc There are a lot of slow horses about too.
I also know that we are in unique times......when covid resulted in racing closing and most horses turned out , many horses were ultimately rushed back into winter work cos of the uncertainty of insolvent TAB etc and there has been a glut of horses as a result.
Even Ellerslie ,which has  some Jumping races this weekend seems to have twice the normal noms. Extra races will need to be added I guess.Again owners will be disappointed .
In closing Huey , dont cry ...try to create.
Look at what you can do to help racing and your part in it......constant negativity won't cut it ,this is a social media forum where any thing goes ......keyboard warriors in padded cells !
If you and your followers have the answers ,join a club and get on the inside and work your magic !

Huey , you seem a very negative person ,and how you enjoy dissecting my posts looking for a wrong word ,an error.
This is a forum ...I write my own opinion based on my own experiences and participation.
The restricted comment was into the referral to  the Karaka races as restricted , cos they are ....only horses who pay a fee at the Sales can enter...ie the are restricted.I replied .
AS to generating revenue....you think about it.....The races are linked to the sales which attracts International visitors and investors ,often an Aussie horse and/or jockey or two.Better than normal publicity , good attendance and punting , and attracts many 'new' and 'younger' folk on the day and is one of BGP 's big day. It is a great day ,again IMO.
Does it generate revenue.......you work that out.
I'm sure your tag -team will join in.....the ones who want Timaru developed as a state of art racing centre.....and no need to touch the track !History shows it can get wet / heavy there like most of NZ !
I know a little bit about the South Island and its racing........I have probably lived in the South Island for longer than you and your tag-team mates who will need to come to your assistance.
Don't bother reading my posts......ignore them ,thanks !
As for the owners who missed a start at Timaru ,I feel for them cause happened to me many ,many times especially with Maidens and R65. You need to get some form and move up the rankings to avoid the ballot. Its happened for years and I know the feeling.
I also know that NZ owners are very resilient , take abysmal returns ,increasing costs etc There are a lot of slow horses about too.
I also know that we are in unique times......when covid resulted in racing closing and most horses turned out , many horses were ultimately rushed back into winter work cos of the uncertainty of insolvent TAB etc and there has been a glut of horses as a result.
Even Ellerslie ,which has  some Jumping races this weekend seems to have twice the normal noms. Extra races will need to be added I guess.Again owners will be disappointed .
In closing Huey , dont cry ...try to create.
Look at what you can do to help racing and your part in it......constant negativity won't cut it ,this is a social media forum where any thing goes ......keyboard warriors in padded cells !
If you and your followers have the answers ,join a club and get on the inside and work your magic !

Correct.......but there no restriction as to who can bet on them ,or who can attend to watch etc.
Is not one of the goals of NZTR to try to encourage investment in Ownership etc ?
The Karaka race/day creates a lot of interest here and abroad.
Both the race and the day itself rank in the top 7 for betting turnover.
Definitely one of the best days racing on current calendar IMO.

It's history now but they were optimistically waiting on the windfall of 'changes.....the Racefield legislation , reduction in Gambling duty and  a Point of Consumption Fee.
A mythical $20 million,...they waited ,hoped ,waited ....even spent it !
But alas......
If you interested and haven't already ,read the Annual reports of NZRB/RITA and note the optimism oozing out.
Once the bank loan was drawn down and Co-vid arrived ...it was all over.
IMO the race dates/programmes etc need a real overhaul...of course Saturdays and Holidays often up against big Australian tracks but more marketing and promotion needed with NZ racing.
The brand of " NZ Racing" has weakened significantly ...........hardly Rugby,racing and beer these days !

Wow !
The man and the author of above piece obviously well pleased with the changes in and progress  of the NZ Racing Industry.
Obviously there has been a lot of changes and his experience in governance been of use.
However there appears to be a HUGE credibility gap between what the above suggests , our closeness to prosperity etc and the actual state of NZ racing / TAB / wagering etc and the fact it was recently bailed out by the Guvmint and the general consensus of many in the Industry who fear for their livelihoods.
I'm sure the experts and critics on here will provide us a balance fairly quickly.

Wow !
The man and the author of above piece obviously well pleased with the changes in and progress  of the NZ Racing Industry.
Obviously there has been a lot of changes and his experience in governance been of use.
However there appears to be a HUGE credibility gap between what the above suggests , our closeness to prosperity etc and the actual state of NZ racing / TAB / wagering etc and the fact it was recently bailed out by the Guvmint and the general consensus of many in the Industry who fear for their livelihoods.
I'm sure the experts and critics on here will provide us a balance fairly quickly.

Wow !
The man and the author of above piece obviously well pleased with the changes in and progress  of the NZ Racing Industry.
Obviously there has been a lot of changes and his experience in governance been of use.
However there appears to be a HUGE credibility gap between what the above suggests , our closeness to prosperity etc and the actual state of NZ racing / TAB / wagering etc and the fact it was recently bailed out by the Guvmint and the general consensus of many in the Industry who fear for their livelihoods.
I'm sure the experts and critics on here will provide us a balance fairly quickly.

Wow !
The man and the author of above piece obviously well pleased with the changes in and progress  of the NZ Racing Industry.
Obviously there has been a lot of changes and his experience in governance been of use.
However there appears to be a HUGE credibility gap between what the above suggests , our closeness to prosperity etc and the actual state of NZ racing / TAB / wagering etc and the fact it was recently bailed out by the Guvmint and the general consensus of many in the Industry who fear for their livelihoods.
I'm sure the experts and critics on here will provide us a balance fairly quickly.

Wow !
The man and the author of above piece obviously well pleased with the changes in and progress  of the NZ Racing Industry.
Obviously there has been a lot of changes and his experience in governance been of use.
However there appears to be a HUGE credibility gap between what the above suggests , our closeness to prosperity etc and the actual state of NZ racing / TAB / wagering etc and the fact it was recently bailed out by the Guvmint and the general consensus of many in the Industry who fear for their livelihoods.
I'm sure the experts and critics on here will provide us a balance fairly quickly.

Earlier today I attended the website funeral service for Dene Biddlecombe a prominent owner and administrator in the Northern region.
It was a very tasteful service ,a good send off for a well known man in Harness and Rugby League circles.
Part-owner of a number of horses including Temporale.
Dene had lived a very acitve life in both Business and sporting endeavours , and having got to know him in recent years ,while he battled the dreaded cancer I know he was a a very generous man prone to helping others.
He used to MC the IHC fundraisers at the Auckland trots and donated much of his sporting memorobilia to that cause.
RIP Dene.

Earlier today I attended the website funeral service for Dene Biddlecombe a prominent owner and administrator in the Northern region.
It was a very tasteful service ,a good send off for a well known man in Harness and Rugby League circles.
Part-owner of a number of horses including Temporale.
Dene had lived a very acitve life in both Business and sporting endeavours , and having got to know him in recent years ,while he battled the dreaded cancer I know he was a a very generous man prone to helping others.
He used to MC the IHC fundraisers at the Auckland trots and donated much of his sporting memorobilia to that cause.
RIP Dene.

Earlier today I attended the website funeral service for Dene Biddlecombe a prominent owner and administrator in the Northern region.
It was a very tasteful service ,a good send off for a well known man in Harness and Rugby League circles.
Part-owner of a number of horses including Temporale.
Dene had lived a very acitve life in both Business and sporting endeavours , and having got to know him in recent years ,while he battled the dreaded cancer I know he was a a very generous man prone to helping others.
He used to MC the IHC fundraisers at the Auckland trots and donated much of his sporting memorobilia to that cause.
RIP Dene.

Earlier today I attended the website funeral service for Dene Biddlecombe a prominent owner and administrator in the Northern region.
It was a very tasteful service ,a good send off for a well known man in Harness and Rugby League circles.
Part-owner of a number of horses including Temporale.
Dene had lived a very acitve life in both Business and sporting endeavours , and having got to know him in recent years ,while he battled the dreaded cancer I know he was a a very generous man prone to helping others.
He used to MC the IHC fundraisers at the Auckland trots and donated much of his sporting memorobilia to that cause.
RIP Dene.

Agreed JJ ,far too much negativity coming from the padded cell in the CD.
But he right on one thing....racing/TAB needs more revenue ,but among the rhetoric his idea of  having more horses and more races which will lead to more betting ,I'm not so sure this that easy.
As he's been giving helpful advice to administrators for years ,I'm surprised he doesn't hold some prominent position where he can sort out the chaos other that just dominating this site and denigrating others opinions !
He does seem well rounded in racing......an I've done it all person.....!

What rubbish Grumpy, probably did not agree with your posts or their content and let it slip by .
FYG  i dont read all the posts but do carry on abusing people and being negative and grumpy ,  that's where  i see you achieving excellence.
 
Greg

WA Smith , AJT Stokes and possibly Vic Sellars ?

WA Smith , AJT Stokes and possibly Vic Sellars ?