bazach

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    bazach reacted to Nasrullah in Sobering Figures   
    2015-2016
    Broodmares at pasture 6700
    Registered broodmares 5685
    Total mares served         5121
    Foals                                  3293
    It is important to remember that 3293 foals are produced from 5121 mares served which is 64% which is obviously misses, absorbed,slips etc.
    The key issue quite simply NZ prize money has not kept up with the increase in breeding and racing costs. Where as Australia has had a huge increase in prize money over the last 10 years and starting from a much higher base.
    If our prize money had increased accordingly then more racehorses would pay there way here and there would be more mares bred, more horses sold and more profit in breeding.
    Looking forward to Winston Peters announcement next week. Any little bit counts!
    Adding some optimism NZ does breed a very good product and they will pay great money for the right NZ bred horse. That doesn't mean the breeder needs to go to an expensive stallion. Some really good results at sales in the $5,000 to $8,000 service fee range.
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    bazach reacted to jess in Sobering Figures   
    Perhaps if I could balance that tale a little.  Another mare was at a different stud and the service in terms of communication was great - starting with a phone call from the broodmare manager to say she had arrived and had walked off the truck in great nick and he was just about to take her to her paddock.  As a hands-on owner who is actually pretty fond of her horses I appreciated that and it got us off to a great start! 
    Mare (a maiden) was not quickly in foal and I'll never know whether she was down the queue for the sire or really was "springy" for all those weeks - however plenty of mares are like this early in the season and I am inclined to take them at their word.  The stud kept in touch with how she was going (unlike those studs when you hear nothing and the only way you know what's happening with your broodmare is by deciphering the vet bills!).
    Mare was returned in foal and in fine condition.  I have no doubt the stud made a tidy profit from agisting  her for several months but there were no unnecessary items/treatments on the accounts and so I have no complaints there.
    I liked the way that comms were not just with an office manager who had never laid eyes on my mare (some comms were with her and she was perfectly nice and efficient) - but I'd get calls from time to time from the broodmare manager who was actually dealing with my mare.  I realise for owners who only see their TBs on raceday this might not be a big deal.  But I really appreciated it.     
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    bazach reacted to La Zip in Sobering Figures   
    Nailed it Jess...a small cartel here and its going to come round and bite them on the bum....the ancillary costs associated with breeding a mare cannot be justified.  I was charged $90 for a vacc (not including administering the vacc - that's additional)  that I can buy in Australia with delivery to my front door for $29 - exactly the same brand/product. And yet the workers here are paid way less than their contemporaries in Oz. I guess many of the studs are lucky there is an abundance of young Irish folk that are very happy to work here for the experience (not so much the work experience but life experience) as a great deal of skilled Kiwis have made the decision to move on or move away.
    I have a lovely young, well related mare by a stallion who is proving to be a wonderful broodmare sire.  She has produced 2 lovely fillies by respectable stallions, but she is not proven as yet.  I tried to negotiate a fee, which I thought was more than reasonable, for a 2nd tier stallion at a major Waikato Stud...the cross was perfect...but no, they wanted more $...as if the stallion would have had a full book.  I did emphasise I'm breeding to race....so I selected another stallion based at another leading stud, similar style of horse, cross is really interesting and the Stud offered a great deal for not only the fee, but for the agistment.  Couldn't fault anything, mare arrived home in lovely condition, good early service and what I was liked most, the Stud was extremely enthusiastic about the mating.  So there you go....2 leading studs, 2 different approaches. I know who I will be supporting in the future.
     
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    bazach got a reaction from Tauhei Notts in Choosing A Yearling   
    Thanks Tauhei, these are very interesting, but not surprizing results. I remember on Race Café some years ago, someone produced a similar table of race earning results for all the yearlings Te Akau had bought over the years, and it was sobering reading!
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    bazach reacted to tasman man 11 in Kumara   
    I think Coasters in general ,genuinely believe their weather is not "too bad" , and events over the years can go ahead regardless.
    i have followed this West Coast saga on here for a while and Tom from Greymouth/Reefton did his best to convince us that the WC weather had been good of late and forecasts were often wrong and the West Coast was a huge area.
    Has news not reached the WC that the NZMet Service actually gives specific forecasts for Reefton , Greymouth ,Hokitika,Westport and possibly other towns !
    The site also displays a brilliant Radar picture which clearly shows the rain about ! You can see it coming !
    The Tasman Sea is something like 6 degrees warmer at present , maybe Global warming ,and weather bombs are becoming more frequent and more brutal.
    Extreme weather is now the norm.
    These once a year race-tracks looked after by a diminishing band of volunteers are fun but in todays age of Compliance and Health and Safety they just don't cut the mustard any more.
    So we can squeal all we like on race cafe and put forward our expert opinions on turf,grass growing and racing administration but until the message finally gets through to those at the top ,little will change.
    As in most sports in NZ , there is little unity and collaboration in Racing so change will be slow.
    Its pathetic !
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    bazach got a reaction from napier in Hokitika Gone   
    Even Winny can't ignore the Worksafe Legislation. Health and Safety is important, but has gone overboard in my opinion, to the point where 'risk' is deemed a bad thing by the legislators. I guess it has been good for some businesses - have you seen the millions of road cones out these days!
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    bazach reacted to TOM(the other Molloy) in Hokitika Gone   
    Well there were very few but.....
    Of course Health and Safety was not such a focal point in those days
     
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    bazach got a reaction from CommonSensical in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    What has changed that has caused many more meetings to be cancelled than in previous decades, is (in my view), 'Worksafe' legislation, ie The Health and Safety at Work Act 2015. In effect, even volunteer 'officers' of a racing club are potentially liable to be prosecuted following a death or serious injury. In previous decades (before Health and Safety legislation became such a big issue) was it not mainly jockeys who decided whether they would continue to ride or not?  Although H&S is very important, it's not difficult to see numerous examples of H&S going overboard and the 'nanny' state prevailing. It's not therefore surprizing to see race day officials having little option but to call off meetings at the first sign of a horse slipping.
    We can't change the legislation, so the big question is, how to make the tracks we are going to retain for the future, safer?
     
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    bazach reacted to jess in Choosing A Yearling   
    If you are going to start comparing strike-rates of the likes of David Ellis then to be fair you need to start correcting for purchase price - compare like with like if you will  ... because  obviously he spends a truckload of money and massive individual sums for many yearlings ..  if you command domination of the bench at the top end of the market it's a bit tough on the rest to start comparing the success of those horses (often royally bred) with the more modest types other buyers are spending much less on ....,
     
        
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    bazach got a reaction from CommonSensical in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    What has changed that has caused many more meetings to be cancelled than in previous decades, is (in my view), 'Worksafe' legislation, ie The Health and Safety at Work Act 2015. In effect, even volunteer 'officers' of a racing club are potentially liable to be prosecuted following a death or serious injury. In previous decades (before Health and Safety legislation became such a big issue) was it not mainly jockeys who decided whether they would continue to ride or not?  Although H&S is very important, it's not difficult to see numerous examples of H&S going overboard and the 'nanny' state prevailing. It's not therefore surprizing to see race day officials having little option but to call off meetings at the first sign of a horse slipping.
    We can't change the legislation, so the big question is, how to make the tracks we are going to retain for the future, safer?
     
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    bazach reacted to Tauhei Notts in Choosing A Yearling   
    I am pleased this post has got so many views.  I have thought about it some more.
    If you hold the mare when the foal is conceived, then help at the birth of the foal, then teach the weanling how to lead, trim its hooves, spend hours grooming it, lunge it, plait its mane and tail, polish its hooves, shampoo it and take it into the ring, then you have fallen in love with it.  Love does silly things to you.  It blinds you to reality and you think that particular horse is a budding champion, because you have had so much to do with it.
    Then the knowledgeable people like Bruce Perry and Paul Moroney come along.  They are too polite to tell you that you are a dreamer.  The horse gets market value and you are exceedingly disappointed that your love is worth not much.  It is tough.  Been there.  Done that.
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    bazach reacted to Shad in Kumara   
    To be honest be good if they do stay on for reefton, nice track, close up to all the action, good facilities, always free to get in, and a great day out, only downside is the photo finish angle, harder to pick than a broken nose, was watching trots from home, thought my horse i backed had won by a half length, beaten by a head, certainly a trap for young players, its not really a downside, their isn't any, lets hope they get a good crowd and weather, country racing at its best, and lets hope it continues, the club and committee have done a great job over the years, when a couple of other clubs in the district have not survived. A true testament to dedication and hard work.
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    bazach got a reaction from Tauhei Notts in Choosing A Yearling   
    Thanks Tauhei, these are very interesting, but not surprizing results. I remember on Race Café some years ago, someone produced a similar table of race earning results for all the yearlings Te Akau had bought over the years, and it was sobering reading!
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    bazach got a reaction from CommonSensical in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    What has changed that has caused many more meetings to be cancelled than in previous decades, is (in my view), 'Worksafe' legislation, ie The Health and Safety at Work Act 2015. In effect, even volunteer 'officers' of a racing club are potentially liable to be prosecuted following a death or serious injury. In previous decades (before Health and Safety legislation became such a big issue) was it not mainly jockeys who decided whether they would continue to ride or not?  Although H&S is very important, it's not difficult to see numerous examples of H&S going overboard and the 'nanny' state prevailing. It's not therefore surprizing to see race day officials having little option but to call off meetings at the first sign of a horse slipping.
    We can't change the legislation, so the big question is, how to make the tracks we are going to retain for the future, safer?
     
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    bazach reacted to jeepers in Choosing A Yearling   
    I agree TN it's very hard picking them as yearlings.For years I have bred my own and raced them and to be honest it's probably harder.I have been through plenty of horses but I adopt the policy that if it can't show some ability after about four months sound work, after the initial early education, and/or can't run 600 at better than 36secs then I usually give them away. To date I've never given away a top horse but have given away the odd winner, which never carried it on.
    We always hear of the good luck stories but rarely the others. Just as well some of us breed and race for fun and guess what, if I don't spend it my kids will.
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    bazach reacted to MisterEd in Thames   
    Booooooooring!!!!  the whole industry is a joke! If there is rain on the forcast may as well just call it off the day before...Fucking sick of it 
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    bazach got a reaction from Lloyd Vivian in Ocean Park or Sacred Falls   
    Hi Fitzy, Thanks for your reply. It doesn't really matter what studs pay for their stallions, as with anything, the consumer will in the end decide whether it is worth the money.
    There is a reason (well probably a number of reasons) why the number of thoroughbred mares served has gone down from over 8,500 in the mid 1990s to (as I understand it) somewhere between 4,000 and 5,000 currently. Most people are not in the 'game' to make a dollar, but because they love horses and are passionate about them. But small time breeders have deserted like rats from a sinking ship. Stud fees are not the only reason, but overall costs, including silly amounts being charged by studs for daily agistment,  certainly helped kill my enthusiasm.
    PS. I liked your response Jess.
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    bazach reacted to MrBigStuff in Te Aroha - joke!   
    The joke of nz racing continues...Te Aroha abandoned again! a known problem course in the past! How does this keep happening you ask? Because NZ is so stakes focused and will not put money into facilities. Also because nobody will change and make the tough calls in this industry, make the radical choices and stop issuing licenses who can’t produce safe surfaces and build one decent track in the Waikato FFS
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    bazach got a reaction from Pam Robson in Have breeding principles really changed over the centuries?   
    Going back this far in time you aren't that many generations removed from the origin of the thoroughbred (which was the early 1700s), therefore there is less gene pool and more chance you will have multiple duplications of the same horse going back 5 or 6 generations. I am interested to know what your association with this horse is?
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    bazach got a reaction from Pam Robson in Have breeding principles really changed over the centuries?   
    Going back this far in time you aren't that many generations removed from the origin of the thoroughbred (which was the early 1700s), therefore there is less gene pool and more chance you will have multiple duplications of the same horse going back 5 or 6 generations. I am interested to know what your association with this horse is?
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    bazach reacted to richie in Kuwee !!!!!!!!   
    Never take comments personally Leo.I would rather someone have passion for something i disagree with than no passion for anything.
    I did actually a few years back consider voting for National but the lack of social conscience towards policys put me off.
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    bazach reacted to 6xes in Go Winnie   
    why is the Labour/NZ First perceived as a Left leaning coalition?
    i had the perception that National was the left leaning party...
    not that right or left actually means anything to me,  afterall policies that help the average Nz citizen is all that matters to me
    i do like the idea of Winston being in a position of foreign minister.. he will be a great watchdog and nothing untoward should ever be done without Nz'ers being considered first
    MMP has played out in a favourable way for the smaller parties.... i believe this was the selling point when MMP was first introduced.. so good on NZ First and Greens and labour for the new Government... i certainly hope they serve the Nz'ers well.
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    bazach reacted to gubellini in Publication "New Zealand Sporting and Thoroughbred Yearbook"   
    bazach a similar publication at that time was The NZ Racing Form Record compiled weekly and published by Stewart McGrail long time Central Districts judge. I have a copy of the 1980-81 Season publication. 1060 pages it covers every thoroughbred race that season with a commentary on each runner.
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    bazach reacted to tasman man 11 in Who employs English Emily from Trackside?   
    I think personal criticism of these young ladies is out of line.
    Females are involved in more and more coverage and presentation of Racing ,league and rugby and I'm all for it.
    Females make up a decent % of the audience and participants in these sports ,so its common sense to have them heavily involved in the media.
    I'd rather have a 'cadet' or new female presenter on panels and on sideline......dunno how much rugby Ian Smith played and I'm tired of John Kirwan [ a great AB but shonky coach]  and JMarshall [a very good AB] but boy does he talk and go on e.g. continually rubbishing Argies who played with great spirit and skill while the AB's chip kicked aimlessly...this got so bad he was obviously told off near the end and retracted and gave the Argies a bit of praise.
    In fact I'd rate the female presenters comments definitely the equal of many of the comments I read on Racecafe !
    We need more of them IMO.
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    bazach got a reaction from Treat in breeding of Tarzino Trophy first three home   
    It's great to see that the small breeder still has a place to play in the NZ breeding industry. The first three home were sired respectively by:
    Shinko King (deceased), service fee while at stud 5k (from memory).
    Remind, current service fee 2k.
    ElHermano, current service fee 4k.