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    bazach reacted to hedley in Consensus! You Darling!   
    Outstanding hit and run Win with the mare in the peak of her powers
    Great stuff Leo and the whole team Consensus
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    bazach reacted to tim vince in Syndicators   
    Personally  I'd would rather be in an m Pittman syndicate as above.he is a hero.
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    bazach reacted to tim vince in Syndicators   
    I'm just questioning putting them up on a pedestal.they r in it for one reason.the volume of horses syndicated by our main syndicates is pretty big
    .hardly any pay their soon as they have a winner the media seem to flock to them. i asked do syndicates take management fees or get a cut and also thought it was a fair question to ask them what they paid for a horse.
    I guess melody belle is great example.of course the same stable paid 2.2 million for 0ne  a while ago at it won 30 bucks,don't c the media buzzing around them then. As for the rotorua winner today.i wouldn't say it was headed much further.hhope for owners I'm wrong of course. Maybe if we got dollars back to the investors compared to dollars spent my guess it would make mainzeal a better investment.
    All I'm saying don't make heroes out of these guys.
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    bazach reacted to tim vince in Syndicators   
    I do chuckle how they Trump themselves up
    .a jakleberry horse won today.75k at th ready to run.with gst  I'm guessing up to 110 to 120 k so far.probably 5k to the owners .after a training bill for the month probably in the 3 to 4 region   150 bucks every 10 percent share.i am 8nterested to know if Fortuna take a cut or do they charge a management fee. Let's hope it will excel over ground in the will need to if it's going to go to pay for itself.
    We all know lots unlikely any horse will pay but I'm not sure if the syndicates  should get the praise and tv exposure they do. The tv guys are all over them.
    Of course never seem to ask how much they paid for them.
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    bazach got a reaction from Insider in 2019 new stallions   
    Interesting to see 25 broodmares in the Gavelhouse auction this week, and a good number over the last while. Although the studs like Waikato are putting a few on this site, many have notations such as "owner getting out of breeding", or "owner downsizing", or "owner has too many...." etc etc. Just another sign of the many issues surrounding racing which have been slowly accumulating for the last 30 years plus.
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    bazach reacted to flockofewes2 in Capital Gains Tax   
    Labour Govts are progressive(apart from fake ones like Rogernomics).
    National Govts retain the status quo,and primarily enact  legislation to enrich a minority.They are very good at embedding urban myths as to them being 'sound financial managers',and a' safe pair of hands'.Good PR and plumbing new depths in black ops are hallmarks of the last Nat Govt.
    Most of the good things average NZ'ers enjoy,healthcare,education,minimum wage,holidays,are a result of Labour initiatives.
    National are very good at disowning their ex leaders and P.M's...Muldoon,Bolger,Shipley...(add Key..soon) as they contour their principles  frequently to reflect popular voting patterns.
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    bazach reacted to Peter Jenkins in Dundeel   
    Thanks Maria. Yes I actually suggested DD to John Messara after Dundeel won his maiden at Ellerslie. 
    Service fee will be determined by the market. We are fairly conservative with our pricing as we only discount for multiple bookings. Fee will be set at Easter. Plenty of water to flow under the bridge before then.
    The attachment shows where Dundeel is at now compared to where Snitzel was at the same stage of his career.

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    bazach reacted to Shad in Gorky Park   
    Think Guillotine was exported overseas.
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    bazach reacted to chevy86 in Karaka on TV?   
    No bitterness, no envy, years of experience, more than grateful for my successes in the industry but fully au fait with how the "system" works , even if you are not. Seen many associates "scorched" ( Chris Cairn's words!) by the racing mafia.( In saying that it was their decision to dance with the devil).
    Any forum worth a crumpet has controversy/confrontation/contrary views, but most of all informed opinion, even if it is not PC and offends some delicate petals who are not up for robust debate.
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    bazach reacted to chevy86 in Karaka on TV?   
    Well Scooby it is in the racing mafia's interest to have it on TV! It is not there for any altruistic reasons, it is a business decision and besides it gives polis (Peters, Collins, Bennet all spotted there today) a chance to ponce around, eat and drink at other's expense, and pretend they are interested in the welfare of the racing community.
    It is basically a wank-fest for a privileged local few who trade amongst themselves, probably pay no sales commissions, and get dribbled over by Rodley, KFE and the other sycophants.( Would love the consummate professional Sheldon Murtha to be fronting the telecast) Why was Leo not sought out after his purchases so that he could drop a few expletives on how he outbid the hierarchy? JMO also.
    BTW, the true heart of the Sales will be Books 2 &3 where the toilers of racing will present their stock who have been excluded from Book One, not because of conformation, pedigree or honest endeavour, but because they are not considered part of racing royalty.
    PS-interesting that out of nearly 300 Lots, only 17 went to HK, 4 to Singapore and 1 to China. Must be a massive increase in local stakes coming.
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    bazach reacted to Davey1 in Gorky Park   
    Seems like it could be an interesting story this one. Any one that knows Wayne should encourage him to come on here and tell us a bit about him. Maybe how he come to own him, how many mares he has been serving and what he is like as a stallion. It could convert to a few bookings!
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    bazach reacted to Ruby in Gorky Park   
    Also I doubt much wrong with his conformation - he was a 360k yearling and was in line to run in The Cup before injury
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    bazach reacted to Ruby in Gorky Park   
    I have never seen the  horse, but I do recall he went to Paxton Park when first at stud and talk was for him to be successful he will have to do it the hard way, with runners,  it certainly helps to be at an established farm so...maybe not able to attract good mares ....maybe they just need time that nobody in this game seems to give anymore.
    Arion says 49 foals, 22 runners, 8 winners, 17 wins not updated with todays winner yet.
    I'm sure someone will shed more light on this who knows the horse 
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    bazach reacted to scooby3051 in Well Done Team Pitman   
    Congrats to Team Pitman and what a great way to start 2019 after the year Michael has last year. Congrats from everyone here at Racecafe.
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    bazach got a reaction from Baz (NZ) in Hope you've upped the security Leo...   
    better entertainment than reality TV!!!
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    bazach reacted to Berri in racehorse rating for stallions   
    I'm of the belief that ratings are in two parts. The first is the official rating (Timeform or Racing Post will do). Then I look to see the best single performance because that is the rating that is their best performance unless the rater has got it wrong. The ratings I have provided are the latter. 
    The problem that I have is that even though a champion in New Zealand, many of our horses are inferior to those in other markets. Super Easy and Darci Brahma are two examples of those stallions. Due to franking their form, their official ratings are average in relation to what stallion material should be. The interesting thing is that their progeny are following the same path. Although stakes winners are plentiful of the breed in NZ, when they compete in a competitive market like Australia they get rolled. The "breed shaper" Darci Brahma's progeny couldn't get to the top over there. Neither could Volksraad, where he is a multiple champion stallion but in Aussie just OK.
    We're lucky to have Savabeel and Tavistock. They were proven in those racing markets and had good ratings. Gone are the days where a half brother to a champion make it as a stallion. The competition has moved on. That is why the likes of Almanzor need to be embraced. They rarely come here. When they do (Montjeu, High Chapparal etc) we do well. Note they are both stayers.
    Our breeders have lost their way but our administrators are at fault. We do not have a staying program. We have lost our edge because of it. If the NZRB and the NZTR don't get together and develop this program, they all need sacking.
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    bazach reacted to Trump in NBR headline   
    Yes. Instead of trips to the Arc, useless Conferences in China or some other irrelevant place (as far as NZ Racing is concerned). They should go to Sunshine Coast and have a look at the set up. It’s very very customer orientated. Forget Flemington, Moonee Valley and Caulfield. They have no relevance to NZ racing imho. As far as track and facility development goes, Sunshine Coast is a must visit. It may not completely suit NZ weather patterns, but it will show what can be done to make the race experience an enjoyable one for patrons. Below is a Birdseye map of the layout - for your interest. 

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    bazach reacted to Trump in NBR headline   
    They could do that at Foxton. There’s room to expand the track and the main benefits I’ve already explained. It’s only 20minutes drive from Palmerston North, 10min drive from Levin but more importantly, it’s a ready made base for good wet weather racing. A “sand belt” race track! Gives punters confidence. I think the biggest hurdle would be MRC Officials. The best racecourse built with thought that I’ve visited in a “country” area, is the Sunshine Coast Track at Caloundra (Qld, Australia). The track was purpose built from nothing, by the then Qld Govt under guidance and $ from Racing Minister Russ Hinze (Waverley Star) it is fantastic. A very wide track, it’s facilities have been built with the environment and climate in mind. It has a nice long run in and all horses get a chance. Stands and covered outdoor areas all face north capturing the winter sun. Breezes in summer are great and it’s protected from the summer sun. It’s great. No dilapidated wooden stand with wooden seats and birdshot everywhere. More importantly, all the public and Members viewing areas are on a mezzanine level and look down the track and also the Parade ring (mounting yard). You can venture to ground level if you wish to view from the track fence line. If anyone is ever in Qld, try to get to the races there. They race every Sun and also have summer twilight racing on Fridays. I could envisage a setup like that at Foxton.
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    bazach reacted to poundforpound in Some final thoughts from Rumpole   
    Sent by a friend ( from the service handout ) who went to see the old bugger farewelled......some nice thoughts here to reflect on 

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    bazach reacted to Red Rum in NBR headline   
    A trial winner will sell for 150k to 300k and a maiden winner is worth 250k to 500k. Right where do I quickly buy a horse.  Bullshit prices . Insert the words could/may/ might if you are lucky on a good day depending on number factors .A maiden winner at gaff track midweek in mud could be worth 10 bucks in some cases.  Huge generalisation that is rampant in non trade press. 
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    bazach got a reaction from We're Doomed in RIP John Costello   
    sorry to hear this. Galloping Greats was one of my first introductions to NZ thoroughbreds back in the 1970s, and a great read it was.
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    bazach reacted to Red Rum in J.Parkes suspension for excessive whip use   
    Last race overnight at  Southwell (UK) . Hands and Heels apprentice handicap (Racing Excellence Initiative). It's the way of the future ,  it's moving and has done for years. South Africa trailing no whips in some races , Norway gone that way .Watched a race from Greyville when I got up for work overnight, very light whip use, looked stylish and good . It's where the line is the experts need to come up with.A tough one for sure.
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    bazach reacted to nomates in J.Parkes suspension for excessive whip use   
    Known Johnathan since he was a skinny little apprentice at Grant Searle's , always been tough to beat in a tight finish because he can get an extra neck or so outa horse . But i agree not a good look in today's world . I'm picking whips will be gone in next 10 years . The one's i don't like are the poor rides and the horse is well beaten because of the ride but the jock is hammering all the way up the straight , stick should be used on rider .
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    bazach reacted to uneasy in Congrats Michael and Savvy Coup   
    Thanks for your POSITIVE  comment unfortunately the atmosphere got to SC 38,000 hyped up Aussies make a lot more noise than 5000 conservative Kiwis. Next time she will be paraded in removable hood, that will probably be 10th Nov in $300,000 Matriach Gp2 at Flemington 
    Only finished 11 lengths off the worlds best horse after racing very keenly and a lot handier than normal 
    She has come through the race very good and we will be out to add to the $300,000 she has already won this season
    Cheers Michael
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    bazach reacted to Berri in Benbatl - La Mer family lights up!   
    Not normally the way you express the close relation tie up. It universally means that through the dam there is a close relationship, not an inbreed to the stallion.