bazach

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    bazach got a reaction from Pam Robson in Australia ABC CHANNEL 7/30 The Final Race   
    I like your post RR. As Barry B pointed out, the issue is about animal cruelty and all forms of life that humans slaughter should not suffer pain and should be killed as instantly as is possible. Most abattoirs and freezing works would or should, be complying with strict animal welfare legislation and practices. So for me, this whole issue isn’t about whether we eat horse, goat, deer or whatever, but about caring for animals when they are alive and if slaughter is the end game, as it is with millions of animals everywhere, then show the animal respect and care when this done.
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    bazach got a reaction from Pam Robson in Australia ABC CHANNEL 7/30 The Final Race   
    I like your post RR. As Barry B pointed out, the issue is about animal cruelty and all forms of life that humans slaughter should not suffer pain and should be killed as instantly as is possible. Most abattoirs and freezing works would or should, be complying with strict animal welfare legislation and practices. So for me, this whole issue isn’t about whether we eat horse, goat, deer or whatever, but about caring for animals when they are alive and if slaughter is the end game, as it is with millions of animals everywhere, then show the animal respect and care when this done.
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    bazach got a reaction from Pam Robson in Australia ABC CHANNEL 7/30 The Final Race   
    I like your post RR. As Barry B pointed out, the issue is about animal cruelty and all forms of life that humans slaughter should not suffer pain and should be killed as instantly as is possible. Most abattoirs and freezing works would or should, be complying with strict animal welfare legislation and practices. So for me, this whole issue isn’t about whether we eat horse, goat, deer or whatever, but about caring for animals when they are alive and if slaughter is the end game, as it is with millions of animals everywhere, then show the animal respect and care when this done.
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    bazach got a reaction from Pam Robson in Australia ABC CHANNEL 7/30 The Final Race   
    I like your post RR. As Barry B pointed out, the issue is about animal cruelty and all forms of life that humans slaughter should not suffer pain and should be killed as instantly as is possible. Most abattoirs and freezing works would or should, be complying with strict animal welfare legislation and practices. So for me, this whole issue isn’t about whether we eat horse, goat, deer or whatever, but about caring for animals when they are alive and if slaughter is the end game, as it is with millions of animals everywhere, then show the animal respect and care when this done.
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    bazach reacted to barryb in Australia ABC CHANNEL 7/30 The Final Race   
    Yep for sure, reminds me of that bobby calf place in Te Kauwhata that got done for animal abuse, no different here, the workers guilty of the behaviour should end up before the courts as should the owner for ignoring the goings on, ignorance is the same as condoning.
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    bazach got a reaction from Red Rum in Australia ABC CHANNEL 7/30 The Final Race   
    Red Rum, this is the key sentence in your response, - all animals destined for slaughter should be treated with respect and killed quickly and painlessly.
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    bazach reacted to Red Rum in Australia ABC CHANNEL 7/30 The Final Race   
    The further onsale after leaving yards  is the problem , after year or two they end up places like Echuca Sale yards with the doggers filing orders  ,  Deposer a Royal Ascot placed horse , ex HK ended up there  and so did a horse called Sahara Sun Chiliean Derby runner up. Both in poor condition  after going through number of hands , the racing owners may have thought been re homed to good place but how do you track them over many years .They were saved I understand from reports many others are not . 
    How many old broodmares , foals deemed not racing quality etc end up in slaughterhouses or knackeries , it's not just out of racing yards .
    Korea have  sent thousands of ex NZ  OZ and other  racehorses to dinner plate over years , it's marked in their register as such . The old chestnut of Singapore retirement plans , Macau etc . If people sell there they know the likely outcome unless they have a return clause and enact it , if they don't know they are willfully blind to protect their own feelings not the horse or accept it as part of the business . 
    US banned horse slaughter for human consumption,  Texas closed one big plant that exports to Europe , now the poor horses are trucked across border miles to Mexico and Canada over many days travel from feedlots  and meet same fate in unsuitable cattle lorries .
    It's a tough one , agree with earlier posts , it must be humane and dignified , the reality is there are not enough homes for all of them from all the outlets racing  yards ,  stud farms surplas etc.
    The person in charge of hounds generally   disposes of the old or injured  horses a lot ex jumps horses from the hunt to feed the hounds , the difference is its quick , no travel and in their home area.
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    bazach got a reaction from Huey in Hawera   
    No worries Hedley, they are going to keep Waverley going (population 1,000 people)!!! The integrity of the 'closing down tracks' decision was questionable from the get go based on decisions like this.
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    bazach got a reaction from Huey in Hawera   
    No worries Hedley, they are going to keep Waverley going (population 1,000 people)!!! The integrity of the 'closing down tracks' decision was questionable from the get go based on decisions like this.
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    bazach got a reaction from Gruff in Stephen McKee 327K Lighter   
    A key difference in your example Gruff is that the legislation only relates to work places, ie unless you good enough to be a professional surfer, a surfing “mishap” doesn’t fall under the Health and Safety at Work Act.
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    bazach reacted to Tim Carter in Weigh In - Shaune Ritchie   
    I never caught the Weigh In programme and I probably should not comment as no doubt I am going to piss a few people off. However I think there are a few things that are never mentioned regarding the state of the industry. All I hear is that the stakes are too low and it is driving owners out of the game. That is true but not the entire story
    . Owners are getting stuffed up the chutney left right and centre ( to quote my good mate Leo!) Not all of it from the powers that be. Some of these so called" top trainers" are charging anywhere from 85/day to 100/day, clipping their tickets on chiropractor charges, jump out fees, administration charges, vitamin charges, gear charges, and whatever they can think of. They cry poverty  but still manage to take a holiday to Hawaii, Fiji , world cruise or whatever once a year. They drive an Audi or other luxury car a, have a big TAB punting account etc. As they read this they know who they are. They get away with it by forming syndicates . Some of the Cambridge Trainers have between 55 and and 140 horses in their stables so don't let me hear them crying poverty at the rates they are charging! Throw in some of the vets, and farriers that charge like wounded bulls and you have an industry that is in shit street not all of it at the feet our administrators.
    In saying that NZTR still have a lot to answer for. Like them or loathe them,  Race Course Inspectors, J  McKenzie, B McKenzie and the the like seemed to police the industry  without all the cost that is now happening.  NZTR  have around 30 personal policing the industry (and a policy of dob your mates in) . NZTR programme trials at Ruakaka or Avondale  so an owner with a horse in Cambridge is up for between 350 and 500 in transport costs alone. The big stables don't care as they have a syndicate horse or big money owner.  It appears that people are employed at NZTR in vital positions but have no real empathy at what it is really like out here. They have no idea of the costs involved when they do the programmes.
    Meanwhile there are a lot of trainers trying to keep owners in the game by charging affordable training fees and no hidden charges so big ups to them!
     
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    bazach reacted to Berri in Take a Bow NZ Breeding   
    https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/keeneland/sheikh-mohammed-keeneland-spending-spree-continues-with-41-million-stunner/399144
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    bazach reacted to We're Doomed in Not a good look   
    MV has the short straight. I just can never get excited by Ruakaka for some reason. And it is of course NZ's newest racetrack. Give me Caloundra any day. That should be the model for anyone building a new race track.
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    bazach reacted to Shad in Thatz David   
    To be fair, I've never been a fan of 2yrold racing, but that's just my opinion,  I have an interest in a modestly bred rising 5yr old, sire leaves stayers, dam won over ground, he has been well feed, broken in and hopefully be mentally and physically developed, if we get to the races the rest will be up to him. You know the odds.
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    bazach reacted to Baz (NZ) in N.Z Racing   
    Close all these goat tracks and build one super racing centre. Build it and they will come!
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    bazach reacted to fitzy in waimate   
    Reading these comments I cant help wondering if some of you are missing the point. Punting pays for racing - no betting = no income = low stakes.
    Unfortunately for clubs like Waimate as a result of only having 1 or 2 days a year its hard to punt with confidence when you dont have a good understanding of track conditions. Yesterday was rated as a Good 3 but they were running close to 1.13 + for 1200 m - really ? Even allowing for the class of horse going around that seems off.
    If we want to grow turnover then we need to provide punters with racing surfaces they can bet on with confidence. Clubs like Waimate will always struggle in that regard. Inconsistent racing surfaces when you cant follow the form must end up being a turnoff for punters. Eventually they give up and spend their money on something else. This is a major issue with the problems of NZ racing, and in my view is the major factor which suggests racecourse rationalisation is essential.
    That said the big clubs are not exactly showing the way forward on this issue, and need to improve dramatically. 
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    bazach reacted to tripple alliance in waimate   
    How much more proof do you need that restructuring is imperative , one of the reasons stakes have fallen is the bottom has been propped up at the expense of the better grades , money down the drain .
    Racing must change , it's in a similar position to where movie theatres were when home video were all the rage , they restructured , went upmarket , comfortable seats , coffee and food delivered to your seat , they turned going to the movies into a desirable experience and have never looked back , it can be done but not with crap facility's in the middle of nowhere , it's time to wipe the board clean and rebuild . Do nothing and failure is guaranteed 
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    bazach reacted to eastern whipbird in Now the sh#t hits the fan   
    I have never belonged to a political party and never will. I prepared and presented submissions  to the select committee on the Racing Bill in 2003. The only person on the Committee who had any idea as to what was going on was Sue Bradford who told me afterwards that she had a couple of broodmares. The National Party have had an abysmal record of non-support for Racing typified by their most recent Ministers but even worse by the political hacks they they have foisted on the Racing Board like the current Chairperson.
    The current spokesperson, if that is what she is, probably doesn't  know where her closest TAB is..
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    bazach reacted to Gofta in There are very real positive changes ahead for Racing, my thanks to Brian de Lore for keeping us updated. Read the latest here   
    I will put my hand up as a lifelong National voter and someone who dislikes Winston for his usually self serving hypocrisy.  He has done more  for racing in a year than Nationals Guy and Bennett did over a decade.  I think based on recent events he should be given the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.   
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    bazach reacted to Insider in There are very real positive changes ahead for Racing, my thanks to Brian de Lore for keeping us updated. Read the latest here   
    For fooks sake Leo, just became the “Nikki’s of this world hang around the Viaduct, it doesn’t mean that the real people of the rest of NZ don’t know what they are talking about. 
    Again for fooks sake, your mob had 9 years to fook everything up, and what a bloody good job they did. 
    Lets see who gets more likes, your post above or mine!
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    bazach reacted to Berri in Big news right here   
    Waikato's short sighted version  of events is to sell Te Rapa and buy Bodle's property and turn it into a race track. Well that's smart. Let's just replace one with another FFS. Why not invest in 2500 ha three times? Build 3 race tracks per property, 900 ha of training tracks (long gallops, all weather gallops and any other gallops that are required. Build accommodation for 3000 people (there's a housing shortage), replicate Bistre Village and build a town (that'll pay for all the race tracks), build an equestrian centre, a leading edge educational centre and a horse rehabilitation centre. Let's look after the future of the industry, the people and as important, the horses. We have one chance....no more.
    Think 50 years in advance....not the time it takes to relieve yourselves. 
    Waikato...greenfields....yeah right....
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    bazach reacted to We're Doomed in Big news right here   
    Very interesting, there is a lot of significant stuff in there. Whatever anyone thinks of Winston he is the first Racing Minister to actually take action. Nothing like this would have happened under a National Govt. We may not all agree with the detail, but the intent has merit.
    I do hope this transitional board of 7 does have some racing knowledgeable people on it. I note there will be no specific code reps and they are only aiming to have a "collective" knowledge base. There is a lot of reliance on the income to be had from off shore betting. For this to happen there needs to be pretty swift work done to improve the quality of the product we offer at key times. Changing the distribution process will be interesting, but it does free up the landscape to optimise returns to the industry as a whole.
    I just hope we can find the right people with the intelligence, integrity and industry respect to carry all this through. As an industry we don't have a good record at attracting top tier people to important management positions.
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    bazach reacted to Caroline in Cheap purchase gets better and better   
    Thank you breeder and ruby I agree with the sentiments of the family.  Exquisite Jewel foaled a beauty little brown  colt who is going and growing strong. She is my 'dream' mare  and that big step to racing. Yes i did look for the family and I hope I have found one in Grand Prospect tracing back on her family. To say I am a little bit excited in his  half siblings performance is an understatement. We can only try and try again.
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    bazach reacted to Insider in Zed   
    If only NZB would put some of the better bred ones (Zeds’) into books one and two so that they at least get into Aussie hands. 
    The “fashion” that dictates the sales company leaves a lot to be desired. 
    Just saying. Liz
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    bazach reacted to Trump in NZTR in state of “deep contemplation” for the last ten years   
    There seems to be a lot of people against “track closures”. I’m not sure why? Golf Clubs merge and benefit greatly as do the members of merged Clubs. The National at Victoria’s Cape Schank is a prime example. It bought a “heavily in debt” Club, absorbed their membership and invested in that Club to improve the course (Long Island). As for Race Clubs, the most successful Race Club in Qld is Tattersalls Racing Club. It has a 152 year history, hosts the richest G1 race for Fillies & Mares (The Tatts Tiara) and conducts 4 Race meetings per year and is profitable. Guess what? It doesn’t have a race track! It rents the Doomben and Eagle Farm courses at a rental agreed incl it’s staff for race days. Why can’t that model work in NZ and with merged Clubs could become stronger. How much would the Trentham land be worth as a residential or light commercial development site? Why couldn’t they merge with say, Otaki, and build a new facility there? Just an example. Riccarton land must be worth a lot? Anyway, there’s too much talk and not enough “action” in NZ racing imho.