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    bestbets reacted to Chris Wood in Commentators - genuinely good blokes   
    I lost Thomas on Brisbane Cup day at Eagle Farm in 2001, had Kaapstad Way in.
    Colleen and I couldnt locate him, but he had made his way up to the commentary box to see Wayne Wilson and spent the day with him.
    He was made most welcome, and through those beginnings, he has forged his career.
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    bestbets reacted to TOM(the other Molloy) in Commentators - genuinely good blokes   
    I have never met one of those Commentators who is not a great bloke.  From Jack O'Donnell to Reon to Tom Wood and T Lee, Jason Teaz and now the new crop Mark McNamara and Matthew Cross.  every single one a personable easy going good fella.
    A couple of incidences involving my kids in the last ten days illustrated this so well.  At Greymouth last week a mutual friend took the two of them (21 and 16) along with two or three others to meet Matt who was doing TV work that day.  He spent at least 15 minutes with them discussing all manner of topics including TV, little Irish jockeys, the way their father reacts when one of his bets looks likely to win and whatever else.
    Then yesterday I offer to take the younger one and a friend to the commentary box so they could watch Mark strut his stuff.  Twenty minutes later I find them still there having this time dissected the intricacies of the Molloy family and notable members thereof, again little irish jockeys, silly songs from years ago, what big races he commentates and God knows what else.  To be fair the 16 year old has a fair bit of Molloy yap so Mark would not have needed to lead the conversation and appeared to be enjoying it but things like that live with kids and they will remember an encounter with the faces (and voices) of NZ Racing.  When I pointed out exactly how big those races are Mark calls 16 year old said ' he wasn't very skitey about it'
    My kids have little real interest in racing other than that created by their father's obsession and the time these guys took when they could have said 'look i'm a bit busy' was really appreciated.  I know those guys read racecafe even if they cannot participate so a shout out to them in thanks for giving a bit of time to a group of kids.  
    My kids are lucky I guess to get access to those people but NZ Racing might have grabbed a couple more devotees through the good sociable attitude of two of its stars. 
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    bestbets got a reaction from elbow in Another Legal Bunfight on the way in Ozzie   
    Was very common practice back in the day
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    bestbets got a reaction from CommonSensical in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    Before they decided to throw all this water on tracks to get the dead 4 rating at race start we had tracks with no bais we now have track bais which leaves punters with little confidence in betting hence turnovers decreasing. I always understood racing was meant to have tracks where every horse had equal chance to win. Sadly so many meetings where irrigation is used you have fast an slow lanes a total joke. Ellerslie boxing day not one favorite won. I know of people that do there betting on metro Australian where most runners get there chance to win. The 80s when I was involved in racing I never recall one meeting been called off. How the guard has changed for the worse
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    bestbets got a reaction from elbow in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    Before they decided to throw all this water on tracks to get the dead 4 rating at race start we had tracks with no bais we now have track bais which leaves punters with little confidence in betting hence turnovers decreasing. I always understood racing was meant to have tracks where every horse had equal chance to win. Sadly so many meetings where irrigation is used you have fast an slow lanes a total joke. Ellerslie boxing day not one favorite won. I know of people that do there betting on metro Australian where most runners get there chance to win. The 80s when I was involved in racing I never recall one meeting been called off. How the guard has changed for the worse
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    bestbets got a reaction from Catalano in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    Before they decided to throw all this water on tracks to get the dead 4 rating at race start we had tracks with no bais we now have track bais which leaves punters with little confidence in betting hence turnovers decreasing. I always understood racing was meant to have tracks where every horse had equal chance to win. Sadly so many meetings where irrigation is used you have fast an slow lanes a total joke. Ellerslie boxing day not one favorite won. I know of people that do there betting on metro Australian where most runners get there chance to win. The 80s when I was involved in racing I never recall one meeting been called off. How the guard has changed for the worse
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    bestbets got a reaction from We're Doomed in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    Before they decided to throw all this water on tracks to get the dead 4 rating at race start we had tracks with no bais we now have track bais which leaves punters with little confidence in betting hence turnovers decreasing. I always understood racing was meant to have tracks where every horse had equal chance to win. Sadly so many meetings where irrigation is used you have fast an slow lanes a total joke. Ellerslie boxing day not one favorite won. I know of people that do there betting on metro Australian where most runners get there chance to win. The 80s when I was involved in racing I never recall one meeting been called off. How the guard has changed for the worse
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    bestbets got a reaction from Huey in Top Kiwi trainer calls for action on NZ tracks   
    Before they decided to throw all this water on tracks to get the dead 4 rating at race start we had tracks with no bais we now have track bais which leaves punters with little confidence in betting hence turnovers decreasing. I always understood racing was meant to have tracks where every horse had equal chance to win. Sadly so many meetings where irrigation is used you have fast an slow lanes a total joke. Ellerslie boxing day not one favorite won. I know of people that do there betting on metro Australian where most runners get there chance to win. The 80s when I was involved in racing I never recall one meeting been called off. How the guard has changed for the worse
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    bestbets reacted to MisterEd in Thames   
    Booooooooring!!!!  the whole industry is a joke! If there is rain on the forcast may as well just call it off the day before...Fucking sick of it 
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    bestbets reacted to poundforpound in Did it rain on Boxing Day in Auckland?   
    I had a shocker on the punt, but still made money because I put $20 into a punters club, and the return was over $600 !! Thanks IF and TV for that, and I had a great day socialising if that matters.
    There was some excellent raw material there for anyone interested in increasing the population.
     
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    bestbets reacted to poundforpound in TAB Turnover Figures - Where are they?   
    You have a right not to know the truth !!!
    We’re disolving into a Stalinist state where the authorities prosecute the workers based on moral subjectivity, but the administrators behave as they wish and deprive us of the truth / facts.
    It’s hilarious how this shit show is spiraling downward as they try to sanitize it, and put lipstick on the fucking pig they’ve created.
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    bestbets reacted to Midget in Bonneval   
    I don't like swallowing bitter pills but I have to say Murray Baker is a legend.
    He's always been very good but since Bjorn ( and now Andrew ) have given him their input he's has truely become an Australasian legend.
    Well done that man I say.
     
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    bestbets reacted to rdytdy in Bonneval   
    How good is this guys assessment of her; Daniel O'Sullivan wrote this exactly one month ago: 
    (Note that on our Free Handicap this week she is rated below Gingernuts and equal with Jon Snow.)
     
    Leading form analyst Daniel O’Sullivan from The Rating Bureau in Australia rates Bonneval as the best of New Zealand’s classic winners in the 2016-17 season and expects a bold showing from her in Melbourne during the spring.
    According to O’Sullivan, the daughter of Makfi ran to a peak rating of 104.5 in her Gr. 1 Australian Oaks romp, placing her ahead of fellow Group One winners Gingernuts with a peak rating of 100 and Jon Snow at 99.
    “There's no doubt in my mind that Bonneval is the superior horse based on exposed form,” O’Sullivan said.
    “Her Australian Oaks win was a supreme staying performance, above the historical average of the race. It was a fast pace, higher pressure race which she relished, racing away to be a dominant winner in a fast time. 
    “Her New Zealand Oaks win demonstrated that she also has an excellent turn of foot and sustained sectional speed over 600 to 800 metres. From a staying perspective, she has all of the attributes needed to be a factor at the top level.”
    O’Sullivan believes Bonneval will be competitive in the spring with the Gr. 1 Caulfield Cup her prime target.
    “At four I can see Bonneval being thereabouts in the weight-for-age lead-up races over 1600 to 2000 metres, building nicely to another peak performance in the 2400-metre Caulfield Cup,” he said.
    “I'd expect her to get around 52 to 53 kilograms in the Caulfield Cup and on her Oaks rating that weight will put her in the competitive zone, given the historical rating at the weights produced by the race winners and placegetters.”
    A versatile runner, O’Sullivan believes the pace of the race would be irrelevant for Bonneval.
    “If they go hard, she's proven to have fast time and genuine staying talent. If the race is run more moderately, she's also proven to have a fast and sustained sectional sprint of 600 to 800 metres,” he said.
    “She also appeals to me as the type of filly that could make a little bit of further improvement in her ratings and that would make her a big threat in Group One handicaps and certainly able to compete with the European horses that might come to Australia under handicap conditions.”
    Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup placegetter Hartnell is one of the likely topweights for the Caulfield Cup, but O’Sullivan believes the Kiwi mare can pose a threat to the Godolphin galloper. 
    “If Hartnell is being set for the race then he's likely to have 58 kilograms. At the weights, Hartnell would need to get back to his spring 2016 form to be a chance in the race and at that level, he and Bonneval would be closely matched. 
    “On Hartnell's autumn form Bonneval would be superior, however, on 2016 form he's the superior horse, but the difference in handicaps would bring them closer together. 
    “I'm looking forward to seeing her compete in the Melbourne spring.”
    Meanwhile, O’Sullivan said New Zealand Derby and Rosehill Guineas hero Gingernuts would need to improve to compete at the highest level in Australia in the spring.
    “He's yet to display the same level of talent as Bonneval, either in terms of staying ability or turn of foot.
    “Gingernuts raced on very heavy tracks in Sydney and won a solid pace, slogging Rosehill Guineas in good time by being the superior stayer at 2000 metres. He got too far back in a moderately run Australian Derby and was never a factor.
    “He might be one that could make improvement, but he needs to increase sharply beyond his 100 peak in Australia as that mark won't cut it in Australia racing at the top level.”
    O’Sullivan highlighted fellow New Zealand Derby winner Mongolian Khan as an example of a recent New Zealand horse to improve on their autumn form to excel in the spring.
    “Mongolian Khan rated two lengths superior in the autumn at 103 and then improved a further two lengths into his four-year-old season to win the Caulfield Cup,” he said.
    Australian Derby winner Jon Snow is another horse that will need to improve to be competitive in Australia, according to O’Sullivan.
    “Jon Snow won a well below average rating Australian Derby with just a 99 rating. His prior win in the Tulloch Stakes was 97,” he said.
    “Similar to Gingernuts, Jon Snow would need to make big improvement to be a player in the Melbourne spring, otherwise I can't see him being a factor in lead-up races or the Caulfield Cup itself.” 
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    bestbets got a reaction from THE TORCH in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    As smoking isn't Illegal are they able to enforce this. The world has gone fucking mad now racing has as well. 
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    bestbets reacted to nick in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    As someone who smokes i never smoke in a public place around people. I don't even smoke at home if the Mrs is there because she hates it.
    In saying that i could do a day without no trouble but why make those that cannot not attend the races.
    A simple smoking area like workplaces have would solve this issue.
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    bestbets reacted to Huey in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    I can't stand smoking! 
    But I have to say I haven't experienced a problem with smokers on a race course or a pub for that matter for years. I can understand the alignment with the cancer foundation etc, but I simply do not have a problem with respectful smokers having their cigarette in a designated area it seems to have worked well for years.
    This appears to be a real beat up and is the beginning of pandering to social groups that will never stop and racing may pay a very dear price for it in the long run.
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    bestbets got a reaction from elbow in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    I remember those days so well and how great it is that we no longer have to go into a pub, club and go home smelling like an ash tray. I was a smoker many moons ago and smoked on the bus on the plane, oh how things have turned around. I find 99% of smokers are very aware of non smokers and go away to a quite area to have a fag.
    My post was a quick response to how those people in authority or in positions to make these decisions believe they know how people should live there lives. As leighton Smith will tell you, little by little before we know it we won't be allowed out our front door.
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    bestbets got a reaction from Huey in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    I remember those days so well and how great it is that we no longer have to go into a pub, club and go home smelling like an ash tray. I was a smoker many moons ago and smoked on the bus on the plane, oh how things have turned around. I find 99% of smokers are very aware of non smokers and go away to a quite area to have a fag.
    My post was a quick response to how those people in authority or in positions to make these decisions believe they know how people should live there lives. As leighton Smith will tell you, little by little before we know it we won't be allowed out our front door.
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    bestbets reacted to Ohokaman in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    An interesting idea from over the ditch....how do you reckon this would go.....?
    FUNK IT UP
    This Armchair Punter has always been an advocate for more innovations in racing, as it is a sport which mostly doesn't sell itself.
    Rusted-on punters will bet anytime, anywhere, but most of the rest of the population only get seriously interested at Melbourne Cup time or when horses like Black Caviar or Winx come along.
    What better time than the horses birthday this week to spark more some conversations about what horse racing should look like in the future. 
    Surely it must centre around the consumer and their experience.
    One of the more funky ideas I have heard comes from a marketing man who suggests an innovative way of getting racegoers back to empty tracks.
    "How cool would it be one day if you could be at the track and purchase those virtual reality goggles? You could select which horse you want for each race and you see what the jockey sees during the race," our man says.
    Sounds far-fetched? They are already looking into that sort of stuff in Aussie cricket's Big Bash. And VR technology is a big part of many American sports.
    Anything which can broaden racing's fan base and make it more appealing to the next generation is surely worth debating and exploring.
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    bestbets reacted to chelseacol in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    Nice idea to encourage turnover but I get the impression often on course that  punters who do turn over a bit are a pain in the ar@e - otherwise why would they have so few windows open, man them with old biddies who can't work the machines, and who all take their lunch and morning tea breaks at the same time leaving one window open, and also not have enough cash to pay out even a modest collect .......
     
    It's no wonder everyone who does go on course just drinks - it's easier to get a beer
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    bestbets reacted to Bimbo in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    I think this is a great idea, but why stop at telling punters they can't go outside and have a smoke at the races?  I think racing clubs should start limiting punters to a maximum bet of $5 or so to show they also support gambling responsibly and within limits.
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    bestbets reacted to Trump in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    Well BB, smoking isn't illegal you correctly point out. But it is banned in many public places, school grounds, sports stadiums, on trains, buses etc. I can remember back when smoking was allowed anywhere! Including aeroplanes, movie theatres, buses, offices, etc. Now nearly all, if not all, Office Buildings are smoke free. So yes, not illegal. But neither is urinating. But urinating in a public place "is" illegal. Just ask Dover Samuels !  
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    bestbets got a reaction from BackPoonDrinkGoon in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    As smoking isn't Illegal are they able to enforce this. The world has gone fucking mad now racing has as well. 
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    bestbets got a reaction from hizzy in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    As smoking isn't Illegal are they able to enforce this. The world has gone fucking mad now racing has as well. 
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    bestbets got a reaction from Memphis2 in Hastings trying hard to reduce crowd numbers   
    As smoking isn't Illegal are they able to enforce this. The world has gone fucking mad now racing has as well.