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A total crack up, and you might be on the ball Chris, as the saying goes, money money money in a rich mans hand is better in the hands of a stripper who over the years has been touched many times when she has said, "no touching"

Was speaking to a person today that told me that the first stand which is the public stand at Avondale is going to be pulled down. He went on to tell me that they will be putting in a Cosmopolitan club and a blowing green. And this will all be completed by next year. Has anyone heard anything regarding this.

I went to the world darts just been held in West Auckland for the first time an I sat there and thought how Barry O'Hern who reinvented the sport is a guineas. I also got more convince as the night went on and I drank a little to much that you could just about run any event if you allow people to drink and dress up and have a big party. Look at the 7's in Wellington once they got tough on the drinking the event has fallen over. So looking at the results it doesn't surprise me at all.

Laurie Laxon made some sense to me in his interview. Bring the horses to the people. Turn Ellerslie into a Hong Kong or Singapore. Bring in 10 odd trainers and some 200 horses and have racing twice a week. Have two tracks put in a all weather for winter months and a grass track for the better months. How much confidence would you have from punters with a small pool of horses and more consistence form with less variables to worry about. If I think about what has changed within the industry over the years and all I can think of is that Head quarters has quietly tried to centralize racing by giving certain clubs bad race days and taken away race dates an in some cases forced there hand to close there operations and other than that they have tried to get rid of punters by putting trackside on pay to view, newspapers have worthless information which I know some people have turn away from betting. Interesting years ahead and I have no idea as to how you fix it as you have to many people in the industry with there own invested agendas that aren't so affected. As the song goes, United we stand divided we fall and what I read on here I pretty sure the industry is a little divided otherwise you would have enough mussel to do something about it all. Sadly in all businesses there are casualties which we have seen over the years, some have seen the light and headed across to greener pastures others stay back and hope that something might change but it doesn't so they slowly close the gate and look for other employment opportunities an I guess in the end you will end up some time in the future with a very different landscape.

My club has 18 machines and there hidden away behind walls and it is the only thing that keeps the club open. The machines are addictive but I hate them and never see the sense of playing them, I guess different strokes for different folks. I use to live at the casino and there are the saddest stories you will ever see in a life time and most of those stories didn't come from the pokie machines. I got to know a lot of the regulars and you wondered how they could afford to lose so much and then you find out reasons when matters came to a head, lost businesses, suicides, broken families, sold off homes etc were just some of the results. We have freedoms to gamble within our country and we always will have a small percentage that will not control their spending but we also have alcohol and drugs and there are ruin families from those social activities as well so at the end of the day unless we stop everything we are going to have ruin families. Your friend would have some stories to tell, he would have seen it all. Pokies are like a efpos machine, guarantee money.

And how many sad addicted bastards are there that gamble on the races that also affect families, should we give the money made from horse gambling to the Salvation Army as well to help those families. I seen many tragic cases over the years and still do today and not just from the Pokie machines. The business of the TAB is gambling and pokies are a legal part of its business regardless of our own morals.

I know where you all are from 24 years ago, you are all still singing from the same song sheet as 24 years ago and more than likely will be in the next 24 years. Life in the racing game is hard as it is in many other entertainment industries. Life choices has changed, 7 day shopping and working hard to just pay the bills most families have to survive by both working and there isn't to much left over once the inflated rents etc comes out. We have a very small population and so many tracks with so many more days of racing than you did 24 years ago. If you look at the last 24 years and how many trainers have gone and tracks that have closed you could guess that we will have just as many causalities for the next 24 years an that is the life of the entertainment industry.

Thats pretty cool, thanks barry, I couldn't get a few links off my google search and started to think it was some joke.

must be some joke, all treads to this story have disappeared, no longer able to be viewed.

He is lacking fitness and experience, just my observation for what it is worth. We don't like to see, as a punter or a owner these sorts of rides but these are all part of accessing a horses chances. Some of these jumping riders don't get many rides in a season and what most of us don't understand is the level of fitness required and that can take a number of race rides before you are at a competitive level.

As Leighton Smith will tell you time and time again, "your freedoms are taking from you LITTLE BY LITTLE and we can do nothing about it.

That has to be the funniest race to ever be run in any part of the world. You just about think it was all staged for a comedy film. stewards report be worth reading, how many riders be fined there for incompetence.

We have a Mayor in my part of the world who was caught with his pants down and he managed to keep his job and his family. I worked in the racing industry and this isn't the first time that certain individuals have been protected and still work within the industry and won't be the last.

Thanks ARC I appreciate what you do, sadly I wished it was every race that you did this. I love what the jockeys say more than the trainers not that I don't respect trainers opinions. How much time does it take and what reward would the clubs get if every race run had jockeys comments. Maybe one day like the race times and sectionals it will be common place as the industry tries to improve the balance sheets, I personally would be a bigger punter if I had there comments as just that one race has me black booking 5 horses and be keeping a eye on a few more just on the comments made. Has to be good for racing.

Have to take back some of what I wrote above. I see they paid on the horse for winning so wasn't anything in the running that was the cause of the horse been disqualified.

I went back in time and looked at the race and read the stewards report and no mention an no reason giving. The horse won with ease and I saw no reason for it to be disqualified, now I would also like to know the reason. The report on race two had just about every horse mention, cowboys down there, some of them riders should be exported to Stewart Island to ride.

I had a cure for girth rashes given to me by one of the old school master. Was a rose spray that you mixed with Iodine and would clear up in no time. I can't remember the formula, someone out there might know it.

An I guess when Sky now owns Trackside they can just give the NZTR and the rest of us the one finger salute.

ha ha ha, I have had it happen to me and yelled an scream then found out I had paused ... mrs goes now david you getting old and it is alright its just a age thing

The only people the TAB like to help is those that win to much. they help them close there accounts, losers are very welcome

I not only look at the trainers but also the jockeys strike rate. There all part of the puzzle of picking winners. If a trainer or a jockey is out of form just forget them until they start getting a few winners again. Confidence is the key word for me with trainers and jockeys.

I totally agreed and also agreed that P Moody and O'Sullivan and other trainers would not risk there whole livelihoods and business to try and get a winner with Cobalt

Sadly that is what people do, it is called greed and I won't get caught. slap on the hand for something that is a crime in the real world. No charges for Waller, they must think he is Jesus. If it was Cobalt then we have a serious matter but fraud and other criminal actives isn't so bad. These people are still able to sell horses go about there business, incredible they should be banned from the sport for good.

How many meetings has it been now that are ruin by man. Let nature take care of the tracks like the old days when we had none of these problems. Racing like the rest of society is so messed up with PC rubbish that everyone has to be seen to be doing the right thing. Track managers are responsible for getting a track to a dead 5 or what ever it is and then with the incorrect weather reports that can turn to custard in no time at all, and result is a stuff race meeting. I took one look at the track and didn't bother with having a bet there sadly the one horse I wanted to have a bet on won (Mygrove) and I couldn't believe the price and I still crying.

who employs these morons, this industry is like the auckland traffic f... up. I spend a lot of time at my club and we have one TV in the games room and I have to forever ask the staff to change the racing channel as one day they have local racing on TS1 and next day they put it on TS2 drives me nuts how stupid this whole industry is run at times.