RaceCafe..#1...Tipsters Thread.... Share Your Fancies For Fun...Lets See Who The Best Tipsters Here Are.
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Turny got a reaction from Aaron Bidlake in Cubes and the Chinese Zodiac : 2014 Year of the Horse
Well my thoughts...
Favourite NI Track - Trentham
Favourite SI Track - Riccarton
Tracks I never bet at - Ellerslie and Forbury Park
Favourite Overseas Track - Flemington
Jockey - CW Johnson (what a surprise...........)
Trainer - Fraser Auret
Best Carnival - Canterbury Cup Week - hurry up November, missing you already
Commentator - Mark McNamara (By a country mile - just brilliant)
Apprentice Jockey - Jacob Lowry (wish it was wintertime with your 4Kg Jacob)
Best NI Trainer - McCrae
Best SI trainer - Pitman
Worst thing in 2014 - Triple Trio (what were they thinking)
Sadest thing in 2014 - A recent legal battle
Brightest new light in 2014 - Ged Moaar Marketing Manager NZ Metro - amazing talent
Why oh Why moments - Failing starting gates, Track watering
Greatest moment in 2014 - Sitting alongside Aron Bidlake up in the old stand at Riccarton and watching his reaction to his National win - a true battler and success - always a wonderful moment giving us all hope
Wish for 2015 - NZTR to become an inclusive body that listens to Stakeholders and act
Worry for 2015 - NZTR doing more of the same and expecting a different result
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Turny got a reaction from Wrinkles in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Results Thread
Banking on my BB in the last -my proven winning formula over many years and happy to share as we close to Grand Final day
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Turny reacted to Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Results Thread
Well done, team 'The Rubiks'
You got in the decisive stride, courtesy of Captain Cubes, and 'French Emotion' ! Top stuff. A thoroughly deserved win in a magnificent game. The lead changed 5 times !!
Great effort from all participants in this high-scoring match. Team Aggregates don't count in 'sudden death' matchplay, but the aggregates were impressive.A pleasure to have taken part in this match.
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'The Rubiks' v ''Ad Augusta'
... after R10
'The Rubiks' 3 ( $ 1979.20)
'Ad Augusta' 2 ( $ 1537.40)
Roland (R) $ 914.00 beat Cat (AA) $ 397.80 Cubes (R) $ 353.20 beat Casper (AA) $ 309.80 Geoff (R) $ 284.20 beat Tom (AA) $ 151.80 Wrinkles (AA) $ 504.00 beat Kloppite (R) $ 264.00 Howie (AA) $ 174.00 beat Hesi (R) $ 163.80 The very best of luck to Cubes, Geoff, Kloppite, Roland, and Hesi (The Rubiks) in the Grand Final next Saturday. You deserve to be there, and on today's showing you'll have a great chance. I'd like to see Geoff win another Championship.
Thank you very much to my Magnificent 'Ad Augusta' team-mates Cat, Casper, Tom and Wrinkles ! You played so very well throughout the series, and we went so very close today to making the Grand Final. Close but no cigar.A Minor Premiership win is a good consolation anyway. Cheers, fellas ...would love to be in a team with you guys again.
Thanks very much PJ for a wonderful competition ...for your very hard work and for the enjoyment you give us.
Cheers, all.
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Turny got a reaction from Wrinkles in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Semi-Finals Sat May 5 entries here
R1 11 13
R2 4 8
R3 13 14
R4 1 9
R5 2 6 bb
R6 2 3
R7 6 7
R8 9 11
R9 6 15
R10 3 9 bb
Grand finals - gotta love it
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Turny reacted to Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Semi-Finals Sat May 5 entries here
In the 'Ad Augusta' v 'The Rubiks' match, Tom and Roland have a scratching in Comp R6 (Morphetville R4).
8 is out.
You might want to post a replacement for your scratching by 11 am, otherwise you'll be on the TAB sub.
Thanks.
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Turny got a reaction from Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Semi-Finals Sat May 5 entries here
R1 11 13
R2 4 8
R3 13 14
R4 1 9
R5 2 6 bb
R6 2 3
R7 6 7
R8 9 11
R9 6 15
R10 3 9 bb
Grand finals - gotta love it
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Turny got a reaction from Cubes in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Semi-Finals Sat May 5 entries here
R1 11 13
R2 4 8
R3 13 14
R4 1 9
R5 2 6 bb
R6 2 3
R7 6 7
R8 9 11
R9 6 15
R10 3 9 bb
Grand finals - gotta love it
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Turny reacted to dock leaf in B De Lore on the Messara appointment
Racing Minister Winston Peters is determined to get it right, starting with the Messara Report. MESSARA REPORT WILL BE THE JOB ONLY HALF DONE
27 April 2018 Story by Brian de Lore / The Informant
Benjamin Franklin once said nothing is certain in this life except death and taxes, but in view of events in New Zealand racing over the past couple of weeks a major overhaul of our industry also looms large as an over-the-line certainty.
Arrowfield Stud boss and former chairman of Racing NSW and Racing Australia John Messara is more than a week into compiling his report ahead of forming recommendations that will be delivered to and then adopted by Minister for Racing Winston Peters.
After conducting his due diligence on Messara and then making the appointment, it is unlikely to be followed by debate over the recommendations. Peters knows that Messara has the track record, the experience and know-how to do the job, and it would be naïve to believe the Minister would do anything outside the Messara recommendations.
But once the report has been handed to Peters, the involvement of Messara realistically cannot end at that point in time. The fix will have to be put into practice and who better to do it than Messara himself, which is what happened at Racing NSW in collaboration with CEO Peter V’landys. Completion of the report is a job only half done; implementation is the second phase.
Messara said recently: “In the end, it’s all about personnel. You can have all the right structures for governance, but you need the right personnel in key places or it won’t work.”
And for that reason Peters should appoint Messara as the new Chairman of the NZRB, at least for an interim period as the new board is installed and the industry is reshaped.
Let’s be realistic, the current board members will be gone by the back half of July so the Messara blank sheet of paper strategy, which obviously appealed to Peters and had something to do with the Messara appointment, can be carried through to a satisfactory conclusion. The Minister has that power and it would be delusional to believe otherwise – the way forward has to begin with a completely new board at the NZRB.
Peters wants to leave a legacy for racing and as previously stated; what he is putting in place now will be there to survive succeeding governments and be functional in 10 years’ time and beyond. Messara is unfamiliar with failure and between the two it’s very hard to believe either will consider the job complete until the agenda is not only finalised but set in concrete.
Already NZRB board member Alistair Ryan of Sky City Entertainment has resigned. Greg McCarthy has stated he will not be seeking re-election after serving five years and it will be nothing but a major surprise if chair Glenda Hughes doesn’t tender her resignation before July.
The Messara report and its findings will be wasted if the wrong people are seconded onto the board and a new management team is not up to an unprecedented standard for better governance – a state of industry position we have been sadly lacking. We have a history that chronicles numerous failures and this might be our last chance to get it right.
Messara’s impartiality offers the perfect opportunity to eliminate some of the cronyism in racing that has been prevalent here for years. He is coming in from the outside and therefore will not have preconceived notions or bias about finding the right person/s, and we need a CEO that possesses racing savvy and an uncompromising approach to the task – in the mould of Messara and V’landys themselves.
What we don’t want to hear anymore is that narrow-minded parochialism about Australians; we just want the best person for the job and if that means the best candidate comes from Timbuktu then so be it. Imported CEOs have a poor record but that’s more a symptom of the selection process rather than the origin of the incumbent.
Some years ago when outsourcing of the TAB was first mooted, then Racing Minister Nathan Guy said it would never happen under his watch – for what reason other than a reluctance to be part of an Australian institution is unknown.
Outsourcing the FOB platform to Tabcorp might be achieved for the $6 million to $7 million per annum that RWWA’s is said to be paying instead of the $30 million plus $17 million a year commitment we are tied to under the current NZRB strategy. Outsourcing is simply about sharing the Tabcorp technology already in place and taking full advantage of the $120 million/year that organisation spends on IT development rather than doing it ourselves.
The NZRB this month relented and with NZTR has now formed a steering committee to investigate outsourcing – too little too late. It should have happened years ago. The horse has bolted with the stable door wide open.
The business model that the NZRB has been pursuing has been out of date ever since globalisation took hold in the betting world a decade or more ago. We ultra-conservative Kiwis have been too slow to recognise and embrace the global picture just as we were in the early 1990s when some leaders in our breeding industry decried the then new practice of shuttling stallions. We were soon left behind and our speed out of the barrier is still in catch-up mode.
And today, thinking that we could afford to build our own FOB betting platform at massive cost and then compete with the big, powerful global players just to secure the domestic market alone borders on lunacy. That thinking could only be the product of the insular minds of people with no understanding of the meaning of the word scale.
But while it’s not hard to find evidence in the smorgasbord of NZRB faults and excesses that Messara will be currently examining, don’t forget that the erosion of our industry over the past dozen years or so has also taken place under the watch of thoroughbred code governing body NZTR.
Under the NZTR Statutory Role, Section 23 of the Racing Act 2003, clause four which is headed ‘Participate in the Racing Board’s Governance and Decision Making,’ (b) (1) says ‘consult with the Racing Board about the Board’s business plan’ while (b) (iii) says ‘consult with the Racing Board on the terms of reference for performance and efficiency audits of the Racing Board.’
NZTR has simply not been strong enough. Over the said period of time they have watched passively rather than objected loudly, and allowed themselves to be bullied by the NZRB which has taken full advantage of the wording of the Act. Instead of marshalling the Trainers’ Association, the Breeders’ Association and what’s now left of the Owners’ Association into some type of action, they adopted the ‘look-on’ approach and now we’ve had to hire a trouble-shooter.
Henceforth, how exactly the Messara rejig of this business will be shaped is something no-one really knows at this time. While his head is no doubt buried in annual reports, submissions, etc., he won’t be making statements and will remain silent until his completed report is delivered to the Minister.
But we do know from previous discussions that he believes we are overburdened with one level of administration too many, we are far too expensive to run, management of the finances should revert back to the codes and that in the end it comes back to the quality of the personnel. That was an overview from Karaka Sales time but whether or not all these beliefs will still hold true through to the completion of the report is the burning question.
Personnel has been a sticky issue in the past but New Zealanders who could be part of the future of our racing include lawyer Mark Freeman who is chairman of the NZTR Pattern Committee and the son of one of our most successful administrators in Bill Freeman, and Dean McKenzie, who has an impressive record of success where ever he’s been.
McKenzie is now something of a wasted talent to racing employed in the food industry, but previously he was CEO of the Metropolitan Trotting Club at Addington for six years, that despite his background from an early age in thoroughbreds in Southland, where he qualified as an accountant.
He became racing manager of the Southland Racing Club at an early age, moved to Avondale a week before the club went into receivership but nevertheless made a sound contribution, and then did four years as CEO of the Wellington Racing Club, another four years as CEO of Christchurch’s Jade Stadium, and another four years as Executive Director of Esportif International.
McKenzie is the most recent appointee to the Board of NZTR, but he is someone racing needs to get back full-time. Likewise, Freeman understands racing and should at least be utilised at Board level.
These are just two suggestions to enhance the future of New Zealand racing. My knowledge of them is limited but it demonstrates that New Zealand does have the expertise to make a significant contribution to the industry’s future and get our best people into governance. Others are certain to be on the periphery, and Messara must be made aware of them all.
To read this and other important industry stories in The Informant each week
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Turny reacted to globederby12 in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Results Thread
Well for a departing participant who doesn't quite know where his allegiances will end up, I will leave with this parting gesture for you PJ.
It comes from a commentary I heard when Courage Under Fire won his last Derby as he neared the finish line.
" We salute you little champion".
Well done.
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Turny got a reaction from Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Round 14 Sat Apr 28 entries here
R1 8 10
R2 1 4
R3 4 5
R4 5 9
R5 2 11 bb
R6 4 6
R7 3 9
R8 1 9
R9 4 5
R10 6 8 bb
Good luck all
Tom
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Turny reacted to rumpole in Easter Handicap
Fancy running an Easter HP 3weeks after Easter absolutely ridiculous
This race was formerly regarded as the number 1 mile in NZ
It was stuffed by certain smart asses at the Auckland Racing Club
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Turny reacted to tim vince in A legend retiring.
I hear Richard brosnan last runners Friday. A man of high integrity who never took a backward step.on a personal note a man who stood by me in tough times and I have never forgotten.who could forget no response and bonnies chance. I hope all in the industry recognize hs achievements.I know he don't want a fuss but I hope the atc has plans to recognize his career.
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Turny reacted to WOODBINE in B De Lore on the Messara appointment
Pound for Pound has questioned the success of Ra Ora during Brian De Lore’s tenure as General Manager and also the success of their stallions subsequent to the sale back from Arrowfield to the Fisher family .
Ra Ora stood champion sires Famous Star, Nassipour and Straight Strike during the Fisher owned period. In fact the Stud achieved a famous first when they stood the Champion Sire of Australia and the Champion Sire of NZ at the same time. So the stud has certainly achieved milestones during De Lore’s management time.
So let’s get our facts correct.
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Turny reacted to La Zip in B De Lore on the Messara appointment
OK - the most successful racing jurisdictions in the world are France & Japan... both parimutuel....so tell me why their models cannot be scaled to NZ...of course, the most obvious solution is to license bookmakers...and if that is unpalatable for the electorate to swallow, it’s either that or a once successful, export revenue generating, employment generating, tax generating industry will go the way of the dinosaur....extinct!
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Turny reacted to Tauhei Notts in Messara's List
This free to air Trackside thing has had consequential developments further down the line that I would never have thought about.
My wife and I have stayed in motels on about fifteen occasions since Trackside went Sky only. Not one of those motels had Trackside; it is too expensive for the doss houses we can afford to patronise.
Trackside would cost my golf club $356 per month to have on. That is because it is a sporting club, but with merely 200 members that cost is prohibitive. With Trackside the members would stay later, drink more grog (not enough for $356 per month) and bet through their I Phones. Their exhuberance would encourage others to have a go and boost the numbers of those interested in racing. The same thing has happened at the rugby club. The costs put on pubs for Sky Tv has had many of the smaller ones remove it. Trackside is not economic for them so more potential customers are lost
Rest home residents can no longer watch, in their dotage, whether the blue dog will beat the green dog. In years past, when the children visited the old folks they could be encouraged to have a go, as it interested the old dear so much. Not now. Sky Tv will eat into their inheritance too much.
It has taken me some time to realise just how stupid that pay Tv situation for Trackside is. As a dog racing commentator would say;
"it is barking mad!"
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Turny got a reaction from Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Results Thread
Agree - it is great fun - PJ in amazing and keep s it at the top table - wonderful competition - only PJ can do it - just great fun
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Turny got a reaction from Peter Jenkins in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Results Thread
Agree - it is great fun - PJ in amazing and keep s it at the top table - wonderful competition - only PJ can do it - just great fun
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Turny reacted to rumpole in Courte Zarindi vs Za Za Gabor
It was a close decision but the correct one was made
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Turny reacted to Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Results Thread
Big ups to my 'Ad Augusta' team-mates Cat, Casper, Tom and Wrinkles today.
It's all very well declaring that the Joker will be played and throwing in a bit of trash talk and nonsense ...but come the end of the day the team-mates need to step up to back up the Captain's big mouth ...and wow ...Cat, Casper, Tom and Wrinkles sure did that in spades today. Special mention of a 'master-class' performance from Cat and a top performance again from Casper. Tom continues to be a constant danger and today defeated the opposition Captain, whilst Wrinkles is proving an absolute revelation winning I think his last 5 matches in succession, today against a very much in-form opponent in Sarah..
Hard luck today, 'The Dark Horses'. You're one of the big achievers in this comp, and though play didn't run your way today I'm sure you'll bounce back as strong as ever.
Special mention for the fantastic achievement of TC in maintaining his perfect winning record for his team - now 12 from 12 - unprecedented -and for Hesi who grabbed a vital win for his team in the last to see the Rubiks snatch a last-gasp victory. Good also to see John and the Lay Down Mizeres on the rise and still in with a shot at the Championship Round.
Thanks for your scoring and updates today as always, PJ, very much appreciated. Glad that you fund a calculator big enough to cope with the Double AAs onslaught of points. . We'll savour the moment.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend, folks.
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Turny got a reaction from Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Round 12 Sat Apr 14 entries here
R1 3 7
R2 3 10
R3 1 7
R4 3 6
R5 3 5 bb
R6 1 4
R7 1 9
R8 10 13
R9 3 7
R10 11 14 bb
Enjoy
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Turny got a reaction from Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Round 11 Sat Apr 7 entries here
R1 3 4
R2 2 5
R3 3 6
R4 8 12
R5 4 5
R6 8 13
R7 3 7 bb
R8 7 8
R9 1 9
R10 7 9 bb
Enjoy
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Turny reacted to Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Round 11 Sat Apr 7 entries here
No Joker play this week for 'Ad Augusta'.
I rate our opponents the 'Mainly Dollarz' the hardest team to beat.
Two players in the Magnificent Seven' ...and that's before we even get to TC.
We'll keep our "ammo" dry for another day. We haven't climbed from 8th to 6th to 4th to 3rd and now 2nd ...to blow it all in one game.
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Turny reacted to Right first time in Summer-Autumn Trans-Tasman Super Comp Round 10 Sat Mar 31 entries here
Well done Tom ...maintaining your place on the 'Magnificent Seven' list.
Word is there'll be a couple more Ad Augusta geniuses joining you there following this Saturday's round.
We're primed and ready to run !
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Turny reacted to Insider in Racing junkets - should the NZRB be paying my way ?
Trying to save their bacon!
It's too late though, as in a few months they will all be pork sausages.
[You heard it here first.]
I am not called Insider for nothing!
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Turny reacted to gubellini in Brian de Lore
Brian’s columns in The Informant are gold. Most other Racing Writers are beholden to NZTR or the NZRB hence their silence on the REAL issues confronting the Racing Industry.