TOM(the other Molloy)

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    What hard working club committees do in their spare time ..

    Can I ask you Leggy who paid for these gates? The Club or NZTR(either directly or indirectly via a loan or some other arrangement - NZTR being quite prone to paying for major expenditure via stealthy methods).
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    Please explain NZ Racing Board Grant

    We have the same thing here. Everytime daughter plays basketball there is a 'thanks' ribbon across the scoreboard thanking(among others) the NZ Racing Board. Always said the NZ RB should insist on signage saying 'NZ Racing Board supporting local sport' or something akin to that to generate more positive publicity for the industry from that sort of donation. I think they gave them $10k for the scoreboards.
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    Fun and Games

    Suspect he will see through that BS simply because of his vast experience. They will blather the corporate speak and he will cut through it(maybe not directly with them but certainly in his report to Winston. The big question is how much credibility will Winston give Messara's report and how much sway will his officials (Glenda and John) have to moderate his actions. I cannot wait for Messara to report and even if a lot of small Club's and courses go by the wayside(us included) this is the best news for NZ racing in years and years in my opinion. The only thing to rival it would be a Winx being developed here and the owners refusing to sell.
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    What hard working club committees do in their spare time ..

    Yeah I knew I had mentioned it (about a hundred times at last count) but just like to poke the tiger regularly. I'm pleased Campbell was useful to you guys cos he was only a pain in the arse for us. In fact one time when they were trying to shut us down and he came down and as an aside referred to 'those wankers on race cafe'. He may not have used that particular term but that was the gist.
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    What hard working club committees do in their spare time ..

    And did I even mention that we had to pay for our own because little Campbell at NZTR went dog and wouldn't support our application to Winnie's Racing Safety Development Fund? Campbell was great when it came to poking his oar into how we run the club but when it came time to actually do something useful and helpful little Campbell was nowhere to be found.
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    What hard working club committees do in their spare time ..

    Course ours are a bit special cos the have to be steerable (is that a word?) from both ends for when we go to Hoki. Thats why we don't have numbers on the gates - it would be terrible confusing for the jockey drawn one to go into a stall numbered twelve.
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    What hard working club committees do in their spare time ..

    Been there done that. Fascinating how they go together and I was the second one to push the button!
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    John Allen's latest "conversations"....

    No didn't go Ohokaman. One of my committee did though and I have heard nothing so it cannot have been overly impressive.. I am so disillusioned with the way it is going and the impossibility of getting any traction with these guys that I simply could not be bothered wasting 3 or 4 hours and $60 worth of gas getting there. What i do know though is they needed numbers 'for catering reasons'. Presumably a 'free' scoff and drinks at the industry's expense. Now we occasionally have a meeting of all clubs here and we certainly don't all gobble industry funded tucker at such times. The gravy train rumbles on.
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    Easter Monday Rotorua

    Remember the time poor old Tom Wood was halfway through calling the race and that terrible woman singer was still booming out over the loudspeaker?
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    WINX staying in OZ

    Big call. Tommy Smith never spared him even after he had broken down. And they didn't set the tracks up to suit him in those days either. Two unbelievable horses but Dufficy and Radley were surprised the other day when McKee effectively conceded that Winx was better than Sunline. Wonderful wonderful horses from different eras and how good is it to have lived to see them all?
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    Get the bugles out...he's going

    I doubt there are too many are there? Unless they are career dairy farmers with no debt. I guess a dairy farmer has the option of getting out of the racing game but it may not be as easy to extract themselves from the farm business.
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    Get the bugles out...he's going

    Been a real problem in the last five years or so. The previous CEO had an empire building mentality and promised the farmers here the earth but delivered merely massive losses and a seriously impaired balance sheet. On top of that the banks have totally lost confidence in the Coast (farms that is) so the guys are getting squeezed income wise and also by the financiers. One instance I heard of had a debt of $20m - the bank put them under and could only get an $8m offer which itself fell through. At the height of the boom it would have been worth a lot lot lot more than the debt but when the banks lose confidence........
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    Get the bugles out...he's going

    Not lately they haven't. And despite having a flash new CEO who appears to be doing a great job turning the Company around Westland will pay less than Fonterra this year as well. The Dairy industry is akin to the racing industry in that the blokes producing the product are at the whim and mercy of the overpaid fat cats at the top who have forgotten who ultimately pays the bills. Both industries are afflicted with Boards and Executives who go off on tangent schemes then when the proverbial hits the fan and the (inevitable) enormous bill comes in they suddenly decide to retire 'for personal reasons'. Bloody frustrating and when you are dealing with farmer clients who are struggling it is quite sad. I would love to wave a magic wand and fix everything but like the racing industry they are being swept along in a wave over which they have no control.
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    Is Savvy Coup as good as Princess Coup?

    Anyone know if Princess Coup has produced anything of note? Ray may have been lucky to be only the underbidder
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    J Mac Returns

    If you go as bad as Insider is predicting James you will be welcome at the next Reefton meeting. Good luck Champ cos you deserve it. The punishment far far far outweighed the crime. You backed your own horse ffs! Could I ask cafers for an opinion as to who brought Aussie racing into greater disrepute - James McDonald or Damien Oliver? I know the rules changed so don't bother going there.
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    Avondale Stipes R6

    Last week that horse at Awapuni charged the gates and got an early start - they didn't notice that either Should've gone to spec savers
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    NZ Derby

    The fact that Murray Baker took him to Aussie in the Spring is quite a good clue as to the respect he has for his ability. Maybe he strengthened up a lot over his early summer break. And if he is off to the Sydney Derby one would expect him to be competitive given the judgment usually shown by M Baker. He is no mug
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    American races.

    I think you will find 'Bernie' runs NZTR Firepipe so much as the general stakeholders might not be too overawed with his performance to date you cannot blame him for the TAB showing North American product on a Sunday or any other morning. I get the message that you are not too impressed with Bernard however and if he reads racecafe(no doubt after a big day at Ellerslie eating industry funded tucker and drinking industry funded ale)I hope his feelings won't be hurt.
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    Race Three Awapuni

    Yes it was (beauden). No detriment to me - the one I backed ran last and (clearly) would not have won anyway. But when you look at it ... In writing this looked at the NZTR and nothing in the stewards report. Beauden would have won regardless( he bolted in) but trackside showed it clear as day. His gate opened a fraction of a second early.
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    Race Three Awapuni

    Anyone know if there was an enquiry there? The head on of the start showed the winner charged the gates and his gate opened before the others. It would not have made a difference as he won comprehensively but i would expect more than a 'clear to pay' outcome which it seems has occurred.
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    Mrs Cubes just backs the South Islanders

    Mrs Cubes should be on very good terms with herself after that effort at Hastings
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    Club Land Sales - wakeup call

    Might not be a lawyer. I form companies for clients all the time and it is easy to form companies yourself on the net. Five minute job in the case of a simple company. As for the lawyer being in trouble why? If someone comes in here and says I want to form a company it is generally no issue. if however you discover they are using it for dodgy purposes then there are ethical considerations and remedies that I will not go into. in this case he may have used two lawyers one for the buy and one for the sale so how would one know what the other is doing. It is drawing a long bow to blame the lawyer here (on the face of it anyway)
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    Club Land Sales - wakeup call

    Well you would be a bit dumb if you were an incorporated society Board/Committee Member who allowed it to sell land without first obtaining a registered valuation. And if that registered valuation was so much lower than market value then one would expect the Valuer's insurers to be called upon to redress the balance. The whole thing is that you are not dealing with your own money and in such circumstances one would want to be very very careful to dot one's 'i's and cross ones 't's lest it come back to bite one on the a#*e so to speak In this case one would expect Drever to have to account to the club for the difference because Incorporated Society rules(under the Act) quite specifically prohibit 'pecuniary gain' for a member of an incorporated society from his or her dealings with the same
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    Mrs Cubes just backs the South Islanders

    You cannot possibly beat logic Cubes. I have a mate who reckons an old Scotchman told him to back any horse that has 2 and 4 in it's last two starts and he also regularly takes 2 and 4 in quinellas($20 or $50 jobs not $1 quinellas). He picks up a bloody lot of them I tell ya. Right until I get in on the act then the theory goes sour.
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    NZTR, Deloitte Report

    You would want to ask the question of the credentials of Deloittes to be undertaking an enquiry or consultancy anyway. Insofar as I know Deloittes are hardly a major benefactor of NZ Racing. Preparing a report into the future of NZ Racing(and I haven't bothered reading it as it will no doubt be more of the same tripe we have been served time and time again) would surely require some in depth knowledge of the industry not just a poncy letterhead? The West Coast has had multiple 'Economic Development Studies' done in my time invariably by 'Deloittes' types - I reckon the only thing that has changed is that originally the consultant rode up on a pushbike and now he rolls up in Mercedes Benz