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    Hound Fan got a reaction from lad27 in Schofield   
    Nothing is going to change...the one thing I bet the riu informant you spoke to will also tell you that they know dennis did not give the dogs p or take it himself to contaminate the said dog....the only thing he in my opinion is guilty of is backing his son and the hanger ons for so long......what happened to the 4 horses that gave positives to p at taranaki.....oh it was someone else not the trainers......sorry guys double standards ....punish I agree...destroy a innocent man for stupidity I don't agree....just my opinion
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    Hound Fan reacted to Emotive in Schofield   
    Hey Gom. Just looking at comments that have been made and not necessarily by you. I'm not making a case for either side. I re-read the published appeal decision last night. There were a number of admissions made by DS. In your last sentence, you say 'bet he never envisaged it would be him having to get rid of all his dogs." The disqualification rules are quite clear in that regard. You cannot own, race, train, or breed a registered grey for the duration of your disqualification. That rule has stood for some time now. As a license holder, you are prohibited from associating with a disqualified person. However, the dogs were permitted to be transferred to a family member which meant any income earned from those dogs post DQ went back to that relationship. The RIU has no powers to force anyone from a property, only the police can do that. There had to be some type of agreement between the current property owner and those who issue the new training license in order for the dogs to be trained from that property. The property owner had the right to tenant the property as he/she wished, he or she would have to agree to any proposal put forward, and I assume that is what happened. As no licensed trainer resided at the property prior to the DQ taking effect, a new trainer would have to be found. For the property to be re-licensed restrictions may have been imposed and agreed to. Remember, the dogs could have gone to other properties to be trained by one or more new trainers. All details should have been sorted during the extension period to ensure a smooth transition. That appears not to have happened. The trainer engaged has now departed. GOM to my knowledge, a person who has been warned off cannot live on a property that is registered for the purposes of training or breeding registered greyhounds. As always I base my opinion and it is just my opinion, on the rules that currently exist and the published JCA transcript.
    I may or may not renew my license come July, currently in two minds. If I do, I will sign the declaration accepting the T's and C's. If I do, I will be locked into abiding by the rules as set out. Had we not signed away all of our rights, maybe we would have some power to correct any possible injustices that may exist. But that's a whole new thread.
     
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from lad27 in Schofield   
    Nothing is going to change...the one thing I bet the riu informant you spoke to will also tell you that they know dennis did not give the dogs p or take it himself to contaminate the said dog....the only thing he in my opinion is guilty of is backing his son and the hanger ons for so long......what happened to the 4 horses that gave positives to p at taranaki.....oh it was someone else not the trainers......sorry guys double standards ....punish I agree...destroy a innocent man for stupidity I don't agree....just my opinion
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Gary Sharp in Schofield   
    I hope all is okay...I see the dogs no longer have a trainer....properly a grnz mistake..
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Gary Sharp in Schofield   
    It's a hard one and I believe we should all just leave it now.....as I've said Dennis and I have not always seen eye to eye but to see this happen does sadden me.....to have everything you've worked for taken away at there age is a hard pill to swallow.........I just hope all this isn't to take the focus of the other case,,,
     
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Eagle Eye in Silver Collar meeting abandoned   
    Think I will back it  from now on....can you give me a few more that cant win....lol
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from GOM in Silver collar heats   
    Haha...it will be like Christmas to everyone that is worried about other people's business....what is going to happen is to do with grnz decision on who can train....and really there is nothing anyone can do when it does come out......we as licensed people have been sold out by our own clubs on having a say and what we think no longer matters...
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    Hound Fan reacted to GOM in How did we let this happen?   
    I have been almost overwhelmed in recent times by the sudden changes happening to our constition and rules. I'll bet I am not the only one that may not be fully aware of the detail and intention in many implementations.
          How did we the members let this happen without a whimper ? At the last AGM gone by lunchtime became a reality. No discussion or remits , no chance to make the feeling of the participants  known. The removal of the licensed members representative gone with the stroke of a pen . We are now run by head office with more staff than ever before, most not from within the industry who go about deciding  what is set in stone for the participants without any input or discussion from the participants. The anonyms board members who we do have some influence over appear to be mere box tickers for the new brigade from outside the industry.
       That point actually makes me wonder what the role of the elected members actually is. During the Paul Connor era it was stated that the elected representatives should be seen to be representing all the clubs in their area's, and must have regular contact with all the clubs in their area Can someone from Otago or Southland clubs tell me if the Southern representative carries this duty out as was expected of Paul. Do all of the rest of the clubs get attendance at meetings from their elected reps?
    I remember many years ago being at an AGM when a remit from the executive was tabled to say that the executive should be able to change rules as needed because it was too cumbersome waiting for an AGM as was required. I immediately thought that reasonable but my old sparring partner Brian Hunt representing Taranaki jumped to his feet and thumped the desk forcefully telling everyone (as he is want to do) that it would be a very dangerous step to take where the members lose the little control they had over their own destiny. How right you were Brian
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    Hound Fan reacted to Emotive in GRNZA and the GAP Levin Kennels   
    Having actually taken the time to speak with those in charge of the restructuring, the Levin Kennels will be totally revamped. Capacity will be increased and the quality of the facilities will be upgraded. A number of issues were identified and the new protocols will increase the number of positive outcomes.  The plan has been months in the making and is the result of consultation with the groups that actually matter including taking on board member concerns.

    The GPL has long been a source of deliberately misleading information. Their latest posting on Facebook regarding the positive is no exception. When you look at the actual figures the positive while potentially damaging is the only positive this season. 1 from approximately 2500 swabs taken does not support their claims of endemic. The GPL has been in existence for approx. 5 years, in that time they have only managed to gain roughly 2500 Facebook followers, actual members far, far less. A large proportion of those followers are AR activists who reside in other countries.

    It is not hard to fathom what form any impending attack will take. The GPL is predictable at best. Their leader will get the notoriety he craves for a short period of time and then will disappear back into the darkness trolling the internet. A couple of MP's will use this situation to gain political mileage, but in doing so they will effectively be criticising the government they are in coalition with, that very rarely affects change. 
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Emotive in Well well well D.Schofield   
    By the way lorna at cambridge still does it the right way under our rules..
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    Hound Fan reacted to Emotive in Well well well D.Schofield   
    Just a licence holder. I based my opinion on the actual rule. I presume you have read it. Very difficult to have the penalty reduced further unless you have compelling new evidence. And it is the penalty only that is being appealed. Guilt has already been established. The baseline is 4 years DQ. That was mitigated to 2 years. The positive was to a Class A drug and as such the starting point is much higher. My opinion and that's all it is, is based on the rules that exist and not the personalities involved. The RIU could appeal the two years looking to increase the penalty, doubtful but possible. Who knows. Anyway, there is always more than one rule that applies, and that could be a concern for the appellant in the future. There have been a number of cutting remarks on this thread, yet you chose to level sarcasm at mine rather than offer an alternative view. If you have a different view, then share it.
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from feral in Well well well D.Schofield   
    I believe the brendon Cole charge is still being held up because of the spca....what I don't understand is it he was dead baiting at the best .....so why hasn't he been charged with this at least ..with the live baiting pending spca decision for further charges....
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from feral in Well well well D.Schofield   
    I believe the brendon Cole charge is still being held up because of the spca....what I don't understand is it he was dead baiting at the best .....so why hasn't he been charged with this at least ..with the live baiting pending spca decision for further charges....
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from feral in Well well well D.Schofield   
    I believe the brendon Cole charge is still being held up because of the spca....what I don't understand is it he was dead baiting at the best .....so why hasn't he been charged with this at least ..with the live baiting pending spca decision for further charges....
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from feral in Well well well D.Schofield   
    I believe the brendon Cole charge is still being held up because of the spca....what I don't understand is it he was dead baiting at the best .....so why hasn't he been charged with this at least ..with the live baiting pending spca decision for further charges....
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Jabba2 in Well well well D.Schofield   
    Looks very much the latest dogs are in Pam's name...presume she will be the trainer from now on....bit lost how mark purdon could not be on his property when he lost his license...yet here we have a unlicensed  trainer admitting  he's training and living on the property....maybe Pete early could ask Mike gober for his comments on his radio show....so we all know were we stand.
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Hall in Well well well D.Schofield   
    And by the way most people know I don't see eye to eye with Dennis...but a meth cheat...never ever..I have a lot more respect for him than that
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Dogs bollocks in GRNZA and the GAP Levin Kennels   
    Sorry cant agree...why take away the most successful rehoming kennel in the north to try something else....because the main base isn't working. Why take away from one that is...why not sell Levin..put the  money back into stakes or take a share in the northern kennel...might only be worth 500k even though grnz paid over a million but hey let's move on....biggest investment cock up ever.....but we all said it at the time and unfortunately  ..the board at the time including  maro has to take the fsll
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Dogs bollocks in GRNZA and the GAP Levin Kennels   
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Hall in Well well well D.Schofield   
    And by the way most people know I don't see eye to eye with Dennis...but a meth cheat...never ever..I have a lot more respect for him than that
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Hall in Well well well D.Schofield   
    And by the way most people know I don't see eye to eye with Dennis...but a meth cheat...never ever..I have a lot more respect for him than that
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Eagle Eye in Well well well D.Schofield   
    Sorry guys...we all know Dennis is innocent...taken the fall for his son...and if the riu had done there job they would not be blaming a 70yr old man.....but after 2 meth positives his son Carrys on running the kennels....shame on the riu
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Hall in Well well well D.Schofield   
    And by the way most people know I don't see eye to eye with Dennis...but a meth cheat...never ever..I have a lot more respect for him than that
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Hall in Well well well D.Schofield   
    And by the way most people know I don't see eye to eye with Dennis...but a meth cheat...never ever..I have a lot more respect for him than that
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    Hound Fan got a reaction from Eagle Eye in Well well well D.Schofield   
    Sorry guys...we all know Dennis is innocent...taken the fall for his son...and if the riu had done there job they would not be blaming a 70yr old man.....but after 2 meth positives his son Carrys on running the kennels....shame on the riu