Chameleon
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This is a sensible post. You must be a horseman. The straight bit with tounge tie (correctly fitted leather one) should stop the horse "choking down", Just imagine if you lost a big race through not having a tongue tie. Some use mutton cloth, others rubber.
I often wonder how many so-called rogues, bolters and the like are actually running away from ill-fitting or poorly adjusted bits, bad mouthing jobs, harsh correctional gear, which is not properly adjusted and/or used or suffer from mouth/teeth issues.
Sadly, I would also have to add that some track work riders and jockeys seem to have very hard hands in a general sense, while others seem to think it is perfectly OK to use their hands to jag horses in the mouth as a punishment, often for their own short-comings.
On the plus side it is great is see well mannered thoroughbreds on the track who look like they want to be there and it is even better when they are partnered with strong, firm, confident riders who give them every chance to show their natural talent without fear.
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His suspension at the end of today and can return to the saddle on September 30, one day before the Epsom Handicap meeting.
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The point is that the horse is not in New Zealand and NZ rules do not apply.
The relevant rule is:
BLEEDING ATTACKS
AR 53A
(1) An attack of bleeding shall be the appearance of blood at both nostrils, irrespective of quantity, unless in the opinion of the Stewards such bleeding was caused by external trauma.
So bleeding from one nostril is not subject to any rules there.
Which is why I posted the Australian rules as they, as you say, are the pertinent ones in this case.
Perhaps Westie asked about the NZ rules as a comparison?
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(7) Unless the Stewards are satisfied that the presence of blood
provided for in sub-rule (6) was attributable to external trauma,
the horse shall before racing again be required to undergo a
satisfactory gallop of at least 1,000 metres in the presence of a
Steward. [sub-rules (6) and (7) added 1/12/05]
AR 53B Following a horse suffering a bleeding attack the Stewards
shall:
(a) record such bleeding attack and any related embargo
imposed on the horse in the National Stewards Embargo
Register, and also, if applicable, record such bleeding
attack and any related embargo imposed on the horse in
the horse
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BLEEDING ATTACKS
AR 53A
(1) An attack of bleeding shall be the appearance of blood at both
nostrils, irrespective of quantity, unless in the opinion of the
Stewards such bleeding was caused by external trauma.
(2) If a horse suffers an attack of bleeding at any time the fact of
such bleeding shall be reported by the Trainer without delay to
the Stewards.
(3) If any Principal Racing Authority advises in writing that any
horse has suffered an attack or attacks of bleeding such advice
shall be prima facie evidence that such horse has suffered an
attack or attacks of bleeding.
(4) A horse which has in the opinion of the Stewards suffered an
attack of bleeding shall not without permission of the
Stewards:
(a) be trained, exercised or galloped on any racecourse for a
period of two months thereafter;
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start in any race for a period of three months, and thenonly after a satisfactory gallop of at least 1,000 metres in
the presence of a Steward.
(5) If a horse suffers more than one attack of bleeding such horse
shall be ineligible to start in any race.
(6) If a horse displays blood at one nostril, the trainer shall without
delay report such occurrence to the Stewards.
(7) Unless the Stewards are satisfied that the presence of blood
provided for in sub-rule (6) was attributable to external trauma,
the horse shall before racing again be required to undergo a
satisfactory gallop of at least 1,000 metres in the
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Blackiston also entered Right Of Refusal in the Group III Naturalism Stakes (2000m) but decided the shorter trip of the Underwood Stakes would suit the four-year-old second-up.
Right Of Refusal had little luck late in his first-up run on August 27 but a slight bleeding attack in one nostril caused a minor hiccup as the gelding had to trial before stewards.
"Saturday is weight-for-age but the distance of that race suits better than the Naturalism at handicap conditions,
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Canterbury R10 #12 Cangowest
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Marton Race 4 #8 Relentless One
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Great story about it last night on TV. Good to see Paddy Bell being the track rider of this star.
Well worth watching.
Where did you see this as I'd like to try and find it?
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Dane Ruler, winner of the steeplechase yesterday, saw his connections given a warning over his racing manners. The judicial report stated that he shied at the second last fence, forcing Misisipi Moonshine through the wing. Gary Walsh was dislodged from Misisipi Moonshine. He attempted to remount the horse to complete the course but his action was ruled out by a stipendiary steward. Walsh had blood on his face and he was considered unfit to ride.
Murray Hamilton, the trainer of Misisipi Moonshine, sought to protest against Dane Ruler, but this was ruled out by the stewards on the grounds that a protest can only be lodged if a horse has been placed.
Dane Ruler and General Mac were the only horses to complete the course in a five horse field. Guananjuato dislodged rider Andy Webb and Tedriffic dislodged rider Chad Ormsby.
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Wanganui Race 9 #15 Elusive Tracy
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That simply equates to a lack of fitness. Probably could have done at the trials what she did on the track yesterday.
Must improve.
My comment was purely a copy of what the stipes had said.
I was not giving my personal view. If I had been it would have concurred with yours.
She looked great, stonger and more mature in general. A race or two on better tracks will prove whether or not she is going to kick on as an older horse in good company.
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I agree, it was sad.
This is from the Stewards Report
1. M Sweeney admitted a breach of careless riding in that he permitted his mount FLEUR DE LUNE to shift inwards near the 900 metres when not sufficiently clear of RUSTY DEVIL which was checked. DOLLARIO and BULGINBAAH (T Thornton) which were following were hampered as a result. M Sweeney was suspended from 14 August 2011 to 27 August 2011 inclusive, 6 riding days.
2. BULGINBAAH pulled up showing signs of significant lameness. After undergoing a veterinary examination it was found that BULGINBAAH was lame in the left fore leg. Trainer C Wilson was informed that a veterinary certificate of fitness would be required prior to the gelding racing next. C Wilson undertook to report the progress of BULGINBAAH in days subsequent.
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When questioned regarding the poor performance of KATIE LEE rider L Allpress advised that the mare had felt a little indifferent in its action. A post-race veterinary examination did not reveal any significant abnormalities other than KATIE LEE having a prolonged heart recovery rate
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Don't think there's a pub or TAB at the windmill Chamezzzn. You maybe should get out and about more. It's the Foxton hotel that has the self service TAB, but can you make deposits to TAB accounts there?
I defer to your greater knowledge of the pubs in Foxton.
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Doesn't the Post Office Hotel have a TAB Self Service machine where account deposits can be made?
Sorry, wrong hotel. I meant the hotel accross the road, The Windmill.
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Doesn't the Post Office Hotel have a TAB Self Service machine where account deposits can be made?
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There is a retired Wellington vet that would have still been practicing around the time your horse was foaled. His name is Kenneth John Patrick (Pat) Cooper. Just wondering whether it could have been his brand?
According to the vet council's website he is contactable at:
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Another impressive High Chapparal winner at Manawatu on Thursday.
BUT.....did she really run the 1200m in 1,11.31 on a Heavy 10 track ?
If she did, as reported in results, either she's something special or Tinsley found a piece of ground no-one else did !
The other two 1200 races were run in 1.17.68 and 1.16.12.
I'm presuming its an error.
Try 1.17.31. It sounds more realistic.
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/Meetings/MeetingResults.aspx/39451#raceLink6
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Crown Gem ran in R6 at Melbourne, ridden by Rosie Myers. I didn't see the race but the horse didn't finish in the first four.
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With a trip to Te Teko for the trials - babies galore and some well bred types as well.
Sadly I couldn't make it to Te Teko today, but I read the results with great interest.
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15 of the 58 are in jumping races.
I've seen it before and no doubt will again. Many of the winter horses are nearing the end of their campaigns or are finding the CD tracks just too testing. And it will be another 2-3 weeks before many the early spring campaigners are ready to kick off.
Hiatus time - I hate it! Can't wait for spring racing to begin. Apart from seeing the top horses again I love to see the new 2 year olds and maiden 3 year olds at the races.
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Yes, it is not difficult to work out that he is referring to Thursday's Manawatu fields. Or the lack of them.
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Racing Annuals:
1977 (2 copies), 1 with dust cover, 1 without
1978 (1 copy), no dust cover
1979 (1 copy), with dust cover
1980 (1 copy), with dust cover
1982 (1 copy), with dust cover
1984 (1 copy), with dust cover
1985 (1 copy), with dust cover
1987 (1 copy), with dust cover
1989 (2 copy), with dust covers
1990 (1 copy), with dust cover
1992 (1 copy), with dust cover
1993 (1 copy), with dust cover
1994 (1 copy), with dust cover
1995 (1 copy), with dust cover
1998 NZ Thoroughbred Annual (1 copy with dust cover)
Would prefer to sell as a package. Offers considered.
Also willing to sell:
1991 Trotting Annual with dust cover
The Register of Thoroughbred Stallions of NZ: 1991,1992,1993,1994,1995,1996,1987,1988,1999
1 copy Tapestry of the Turf - no dust cover
NZ Racing Facts: 1983 -84, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-1988,1988-1989, 1989-90, 1990-91, 1991-1992
Racing Women of NZ, Mary Mountier
The Phar Lap Story, Michael Wilkinson (with dust cover)
Grenville Hughes, Jim Knight (with dust cover)
The Wellington Racing Club - A Centennial History by Tony Hilton (dust cover damaged)
The Bill Skelton Story by Tony Hilton (with dust cover)
The Bob Skelton Story- RJ, Denis Ryan (with dust cover)
NZ Trotting Greats, Ron Bisman, with dust cover
A large number of NZ Bloodhorse magazine (likely to be mid 80's to mid 90's editions)
Contact: lynnerichbailey@gmail.com
To Tie or not To Tie??
in Thoroughbred Cafe
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I absolutely agree with what you saying the above post and I am in no way insinuating that the thread author has done anything wrong either.
My comments were more of a general nature and I apologise for any confusion caused.
In respect to the education of young horses, I believe that a good breaker and post-breaking educator (someone who gives the newly broken horse on-going early confidence)are worth their weight in gold. if the initial job is done properly then it gives the horse every chance to prove itself on its merits. People ( non-horsey owners most often) are sometimes quick to moan about the cost and time taken on this crucial phase without realising that it is an investment in improving the chances of success with their equine asset.