RaceCafe..#1...Tipsters Thread.... Share Your Fancies For Fun...Lets See Who The Best Tipsters Here Are.

Peter Harrop

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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from Insider in Otaki off....   
    So we put an all weather track at, let's say, Matamata. What then? Do we ring up all the trainers on Friday afternoon and advise them they have to transport their horses to Matamata instead of Otaki? Then they have to find staff at short notice. Then there's the clash with nearby Rotorua. Then everyone who punted midweek based on the races being run on a heavy Otaki will need their bets refunded. Then the bookies will need to reset the odds. Then horses will scratch due to them not be suitable to all weather. Then they have to try and find some chips and hotdogs from somewhere ... and so on.
    I would have thought it would be easier to scrub the meeting rather than shift it at short notice to wherever the all weather venue is.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from porky in Does this not scream all weather track needed   
    I'm not convinced it would be good value for money.
    If the all-weather track is allocated to say, for example, Te Rapa, how many races will actually be run on it? Maybe 40-50 races a year tops. Surely during spring through summer they are going to be mainly wanting to run on the turf. If the Foxbridge Plate is run on it, how many of the good horses would line up? The surface would be something completely different to turf. Instead of scratching for bad weather, many trainers would scratch due to claims that their horses are not suited to the artificial surface. And many other horses would not have even raced on the surface before.
    Plus the turns will be much sharper if its on the inside track, also perhaps not suiting another band of horses. This also affects punting as there would be very little form to analyse on the artificial track. And this is besides the cost vs population/punting dollar argument.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from We're Doomed in Does this not scream all weather track needed   
    I'm not convinced it would be good value for money.
    If the all-weather track is allocated to say, for example, Te Rapa, how many races will actually be run on it? Maybe 40-50 races a year tops. Surely during spring through summer they are going to be mainly wanting to run on the turf. If the Foxbridge Plate is run on it, how many of the good horses would line up? The surface would be something completely different to turf. Instead of scratching for bad weather, many trainers would scratch due to claims that their horses are not suited to the artificial surface. And many other horses would not have even raced on the surface before.
    Plus the turns will be much sharper if its on the inside track, also perhaps not suiting another band of horses. This also affects punting as there would be very little form to analyse on the artificial track. And this is besides the cost vs population/punting dollar argument.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from elbow in Hasselhoof   
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from gubellini in It's Time To Go.....Des.   
    It's time to go Des? Go where? Des is one of the best things on the station. He offered an opinion. I thought opinions were what people wanted?
    And incidentally I happen to agree with him on this topic. Essentially you don't own a racehorse to make money. You own one in the HOPE of making money (most don't), much like buying a lotto ticket. Usually the benefits come in the kudos and the socialising and the hobby aspect.  It comes down to supply and demand really, as a higher stake level will see a greater demand and therefore greater costs.  A similar percentage of owners will always lose.
    There are some aspects of the industry I would definitely do differently (for example : lowering takeouts for the greater long-term good and returning trackside to free for view to give it the widest exposure), but people have been complaining about the 'state of the industry' since I can remember, and that's a considerably long term. I hazard a guess you could go back 30 years and find an article somewhere about the perilous state of horse racing in NZ. And yet we're still here, and will still be here in another 30, and another 30 after that (even if I won't be).
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from Catalano in Group downgrades   
    Easter is an iconic race. Thought with the likes of Rasa Lila, Sakhees Soldier, Mabeel, Julinsky Prince, Abidewithme and Snapshot (6 wins from 8 at the time) plus 12 other runners, that last years edition was Group 1 quality. And the year before that the field was even better. Vespa, Kawi, Allez Eagle, Mighty Solomon, Abidewithme, Addictive Habit, Julinsky Prince, Pondarosa Miss, Chintz  ....
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from Memphis2 in Talk about boring racing from NZ   
    Barry, you're underselling the interest. Rugby won 2 (All Blacks, Dan Carter) of the 5 awards at the Laureus World Sports Awards in Europe, voted on by journalists and sportsmen worldwide. When was the last time anybody from Aussie Rules or Rugby League did the same? Rugby is actually on the rise worldwide with participation numbers skyrocketing in recent years. Australia isn't the be all and end all. I'm sure none of the Aussie Rules fans over there care how their game rates in NZ.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from elbow in Talk about boring racing from NZ   
    Barry, you're underselling the interest. Rugby won 2 (All Blacks, Dan Carter) of the 5 awards at the Laureus World Sports Awards in Europe, voted on by journalists and sportsmen worldwide. When was the last time anybody from Aussie Rules or Rugby League did the same? Rugby is actually on the rise worldwide with participation numbers skyrocketing in recent years. Australia isn't the be all and end all. I'm sure none of the Aussie Rules fans over there care how their game rates in NZ.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from elbow in Talk about boring racing from NZ   
    Well, there were about 70,000 people at the game in Sydney last week. So there's about 70,000 Aussies who give a f---. And the salaries you can get playing rugby in Europe are massive, so there are quite a few there who give a f--- as well. The World Cup there gets sell out crowds. And there's no rule that you have to care about 1 game above another. I enjoy many different sports codes. But the Chiefs are my team in the rugby code and I'll keep watching and supporting them, regardless of what anyone else thinks. Plus, I find the actual rugby as a sport very entertaining.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from Memphis2 in Talk about boring racing from NZ   
    Well, there were about 70,000 people at the game in Sydney last week. So there's about 70,000 Aussies who give a f---. And the salaries you can get playing rugby in Europe are massive, so there are quite a few there who give a f--- as well. The World Cup there gets sell out crowds. And there's no rule that you have to care about 1 game above another. I enjoy many different sports codes. But the Chiefs are my team in the rugby code and I'll keep watching and supporting them, regardless of what anyone else thinks. Plus, I find the actual rugby as a sport very entertaining.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from We're Doomed in Alarm Bells!   
    Not sure it's fair to compare the stakemoney of the two. The rest of the Australian states are more likely to bet on a South Australian meeting than an NZ one. Therefore South Australia has a much bigger pool of betting money compared to NZ, despite their lower population.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from CT"s in Who's your favourite current jockey?   
    Sure. Krishna won on a $42 shot at Ashburton on Friday (which I hadn't taken account of yet in the above stats). More like a 50% profit on turnover now. Has a strike rate of 18.2%, roughly the equal of Lisa Allpress and Matt Cameron, without the same quality of horses to ride.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from THE TORCH in Who's your favourite current jockey?   
    Sure. Krishna won on a $42 shot at Ashburton on Friday (which I hadn't taken account of yet in the above stats). More like a 50% profit on turnover now. Has a strike rate of 18.2%, roughly the equal of Lisa Allpress and Matt Cameron, without the same quality of horses to ride.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from THE TORCH in Who's your favourite current jockey?   
    Krishna Mudhoo. Has a strike rate as good as anyone, and if you'd put $1 to win on all his rides this season so far, you would have cashed in to the tune of 38% profit on turnover.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from Grant R in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Was looking at that. Don't think the Aussies introduced group racing until 1979? NZ was 1977 I think. So most of Balmerino's wins were before this.
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    Peter Harrop reacted to Leggy in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Seems like a reasonable approach Peter.
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    Peter Harrop reacted to rdytdy in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Another for you Peter:
    RIVERINA CHARM: A wonderful race mare by Sir Tristram with seven wins including four Group 1's on both sides of the Tasman. Her Group 1 victories came in the Group 1 Air New Zealand Stakes, Group 1 Rosehill Guineas, Group 1 Canterbury Guineas and Group 1 Melbourne's 1000 Guineas. 
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    Peter Harrop reacted to rdytdy in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Did you know that Tulloch won four consecutive Avondale Cups. 
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    Peter Harrop reacted to Grant R in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Balmerino  NZ Derby Kelt capital , Air New zealand stakes ,2000 guineas , Brisbane cup , Ranvet  not sure if they were all group ones
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    Peter Harrop reacted to gubellini in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Peter Prince Majestic won 19 races. He won 3 Group Ones. AJC Queen Elizabeth Randwick Stakes. AJC Spring Champion Stakes. STC Bowater- Scott HE Tancred Stakes.
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    Peter Harrop got a reaction from MiDeBo Racing in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    I mean also include those that are NZ trained throughout, so this will allow both Dundeel and Ethereal.
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    Peter Harrop reacted to rdytdy in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Prince Majestic trained by Ray Verner will need to go on the list. 
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    Peter Harrop reacted to rdytdy in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    G A White trained Courier Bay. 
    Don Couchman trained Pinson
    Errol Skelton trained Our Flight 
    The McKees trained Solveig
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    Peter Harrop reacted to rdytdy in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    Pinson: 3
    Railway, Waikato Sprint and Thorndon Mile
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    Peter Harrop reacted to rdytdy in Help needed to fill out list of Most Group 1 Wins   
    If you did that then Dundeel 6
    One you have missed is Poetic Prince 4 (1 in NZ 3 in Oz)