RaceCafe..#1...Tipsters Thread.... Share Your Fancies For Fun...Lets See Who The Best Tipsters Here Are.

THE TORCH

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  1. Any specific reason as to why Entain allocated their horses for the new ownership incentive to entirely male trainers here in NZ? Not one female trainer was issued a horse. At a time where every decision is scoped for its inclusiveness I'd say there are a lot of disgruntled, confused, and angry members of the industry. https://www.racingnews.co.nz/tab-racing-club-a-new-player-in-racehorse-ownership/
  2. No need. I didnt realise it was a Wednesday decision - I was just going by what the panel of Trackside "experts" were saying while the TV was on in the background on Friday. I cant work out why people on here thought I was demanding all legs to be paid out/deemed winners within a Legarto multi when all I was pinpointing was the early payout on Legarto. As a side issue I wonder what percent of money received from the early payout went back on Legarto to actually win the race. Impossible to track through the betting figures but Id say the TAB would have come out on top even more from Legarto's defeat when confident punters reinvested their early payout return.
  3. Great post and a bang on reply.
  4. As usual you understood incorrectly.
  5. Oh my God its back again. Only if all the other legs have been a winner as well. If anyone took the Orchestral to win/Legarto to win multi that we are talking about should they not receive their winnings considering the TAB paid out on Legarto to win on the Friday? Is that not a closed case as you'd put it?
  6. Oh my God. That'll do me. Piss off.
  7. Injury and death are "ridiculous ideas" are they? Try telling that to some of our jockeys who have been victims in the past because of slippery tracks. Ring Judy Lawson and ask her how life has been the last 17 years.
  8. How the hell can I discuss an issue with someone who denies what they say!??!! Thats not a mistake - thats blatant stupidity. For Gods sake next you'll be saying the track was unsafe and that I think that a poor track is OK to run on but "she'll be right" in the future!!!! Go back to your ARC board meeting.
  9. Because the TAB paid out on Legarto on the Friday. If Legarto is a "leg" of a multi shouldnt it be deemed a winner too? Irrelevant which order of "legs" it is.
  10. Really? Is that the best you've got? They paid out on fixed odds bets on the Friday. Vividly advertised. It should mean they pay out on the Legarto "leg" that anyone had in their multis. Tell me where I said all "legs" were to be paid out as well. Boy you're having a cracker of a day with your mate Pete aren't you.
  11. So they pay out on win bets but it still has to win for the multi takers. Is this an Ellerslie Double Standards Society idea of yours and Petes?
  12. When was their multi placed? I thought the TAB had "paid out" for Legarto on the Friday. Does that not apply to multis?
  13. Interestingly whilst the majority of winners came from horses handy to the pace not one front runner actually prevailed. I think the bottom line here is that the track needs more time. They took a bit of a punt opening early for the Karaka meeting and it didn't quite come off because of the rain. I honestly believe the naysayers will eat their words when it settles down. But thats Ok. Sorry for being pathetically correct.
  14. Id say your statement that we "eat our words" is an indirect "praise" (or at least support) of the tracks safety. We say it was unsafe but eating our words means we have got this wrong. Horses slipped mate! Two abandoned meetings the past week because of the same conditions. The future has zip to do with Saturday. Its like saying Legarto will win in the future....it didnt on Saturday. Two things totally lacking connection. Moaning? When someone gets injured or dies because of the major player decisions like Karaka Millions day then yeah I'll definitely have a moan. Meanwhile you'll console the victims with "give the track time and everything will turn out OK". Wake up.
  15. Oh so racing on a dodgy surface is OK then? Why are you stating things will improve then?? With your logic the track doesnt need to be in top order ever because they will always run on it anyway! Ellerslie dodged a bullet on Saturday and youre praising the decision makers and a substandard track. Please.
  16. The desperate, addicted, and the lonely. Why would you do it?
  17. Thats not the point. Stick to the situation on Saturday and the inconsistency from certain players. The future has zero to do with this.
  18. 1. Well done MG for reporting this and making it public. He has been a huge fan of the new developments at Ellerslie but like any good journalist he's being objective. 2. What a crock of crap from Wilcox and the jockeys. That track was unsafe and again highlights the double standards in the industry in northern NZ.
  19. Great post. I really like this initiative and reckon not only is it the best betting race on Saturday, but it will provide the best spectacle. Cant wait. Oh and go the Southerners!!
  20. So we should - we're paying their wages arent we?
  21. They keep asking him back! Perhaps they use him to ask the real questions because the rest are cowards. He doesnt need Trackside but he is obviously passionate about the industry so wants answers or wants those in power to be kept on their toes. Everything he says is right because he does the research and provides cold hard facts. Meanwhile we have presenters who dont even know the Wellington Cup nominees.
  22. You're missing the point here MJ.