chiknsmack
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How much would they have taken on that market at this point? It's not super attractive to tie your money up for nine months in a 125% market with a $1.20 favourite, so would they have taken even 1k on it in total so far, never mind 10k?
If I was running that book and someone wanted 10k on, I wouldn't even give them $300. I'd probably suspend the market straight away until I made sure the Richards team hadn't had a bunch of cobalt positives, or Jamie had keeled over and died, or something silly like that. I suppose someone could theoretically think Baker/Forsman were more than a 17% chance of winning the premiership and so value at $6, but unless that "someone" bets millions per year a 10k bet would be strange in a market with next-to-no interest from anyone.
I'm usually less of a pussy than the bookies too.
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The other thing is that they've changed the order of the columns of odds they display on the left hand side of the screen. It used to be FFWIN, Tote Win, Tote Place. Now it's Tote win, FFWIN, FFPLC.
It threw me off the other day too.
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Corey Brown is reasonably eloquent, but he's not much of a genius. Last week he said he doesn't bother walking the track before the meeting because you can just follow one of the jockeys who has. On Thursday he had no idea how quick they'd gone early in the first and how strong the wind was (they came home in 12.3 and 12.9) and what that meant for the shape of the race.
Then the juveniles go around in Race 2 and he tells us all that the jocks will want to put their inexperienced mounts on one of the rails down the straight track to help guide them. Which makes sense, except the actual jockeys who were riding on the day were happy to stay up the middle.
Before the third he said that the favourites in the next had tough barriers and that you wouldn't want to be covering ground... followed by telling us all after the race that he spoke to a couple of the jocks and they said that the wind was hitting the horses on the fence so 3w was a great place to be.
Trackside is set up as a betting medium, so they want polished presenters who can talk idiots into having a bet on the next race, and then seamlessly encourage them to back something in the next, then the one after that. Occasionally you'll get some info you wouldn't have otherwise gotten (on domestic racing anyway; there's never anything of value shared about the Australian races) but Trackside isn't set up for knowledgeable, eloquent presenters to educate the viewers or help out the punters. If they did want to turn the channel into a quality viewing experience showcasing the sport though, hopefully they could do better than Corey Brown.
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I'm after footage of all the pre- and post-race stuff from the VRC Oaks today. If someone has this recorded off Trackside we can probably find a way for me to get a copy, which I'd really appreciate.
Failing that, if anyone has any ideas of where I could find it online (I know racing.com have replays of the race and of some of the post-race interviews), please let me know.
Thanks.
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Add a horse to your betslip, click the orange Freebet icon that comes up, then select the freebet you want to use from the dropdown list.
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Well done, and thanks for sharing.
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Midnight Runner leads, Marzemino osl? Or does Marzemino hold the rail? I think whichever one leads wins, though Marzemino is the better horse and could win sitting osl.
Marzemino already $3.70 into $3.20.
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Hōiho Nāti.
Those macrons seem quite important; the difference between "Play/Gamble Horses of New Zealand" and "Play Strangle Yellow-Eyed Penguin of New Zealand". Though I don't know why they haven't gone with the transliteration reihi hōiho (race horse). Maybe the same reason we've gone away from the old transliteral days of the week from when I was a kid (Mane, Tūrei, Wenerei etc.) to the "Rā" days (Rāhina, Rātū, Rāapa etc).
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And now withdrawn from the sale, having been sold privately.
“There are a few stars among them too. We’ve had a Deep Field colt win two trials and we’ve sold him, though the money hasn’t yet come through so he could go through the ring if it doesn’t arrive. But overall they’re a really nice group of horses.”
https://www.racecafe.co.nz/karaka-million-path-begins-for-neon-moon/
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1 hour ago, Insider said:
What I don’t understand is:
If Australian’s cannot bet with our TAB, who are the New Zealander's betting with in Australia?
Surely the rules/legislation works both ways or am I missing something?
It's Australian law that Australians can't bet with offshore agencies. The idea is to protect punters, and the integrity of racing in general, by cutting off access to unlicensed bookmakers in the Pacific Islands, Asia, or the Caribbean.
The NZTAB/NZTR should've spoken up when the law was being mooted to get an exception, but they didn't. Once the law was passed they said they were going to try to work something out so people in Australia could still bet with the NZTAB, but they haven't done so.
There's no equivalent NZ law, so we can bet with Australian corporate bookmakers, or with any old dodgy mob from Vanuatu/Cook Islands/Costa Rica/wherever.
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The jockey I'd most want to back is Nash for sure. Two who weren't mentioned are Kmac and "TopCat" Tim Clark (especially on leaders).
Bowman is rubbish (though he does have a decent knack for finding the 1x1), and there's a reason getting "Willo'd" is a thing.
The true best jockeys however are the saffas; Glyn Schofield, Robbie Fradd, and the best of all Jeff Lloyd. If they want to win they do, if they don't they don't. The hard part is figuring out whether or not they want to.
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The Aussie punters I know can't stand him. The thinking is that if you need a miracle ride on a roughie he can pop up and do the job, but if you need a straightforward ride on a favourite (particularly in a sprint) he's legless. He physically strong enough to be able to lift horses over the line in longer races, but not mentally sharp enough to make good split-second decisions in sprint races (which means he ends up in bad spots, occasionally pulling out the miracle win from four-back the fence).
He's won just three of his last 14 rides on favourites in races shorter than 1600m. In eight rides on favourites at 2000m+ in the past 12 months he's won four. He's won five of his 29 rides this month, four of those five wins at 2000m+.
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2 hours ago, Catalano said:
It would be very interesting to compile a list on NZ trained runners in Aussie Group 1 races and the barrier draws that have been allocated - I may be a conspiracy theorist, but has anyone else wondered why we always seem to draw the carpark - we can't be that unlucky!?
The draw for the Cox Plate had the horses drawn out of a hat and the connections then choosing which draw they wanted. It would take some doing to make sure Te Akau Shark was the last name left in the hat, not to mention that he has no chance anyway so why would you bother?
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I would've been very keen on Prince of Arran had he gotten a run. Looks like he'll go to the Geelong Cup on Wednesday instead.
Got it down to 2-3-6-10-11-15-16 at first glance.
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Look at the ground it made up in the video between the 16s and 24s marks. At that rate it's going to win by a couple of lengths.
Then watch it change stride and slow down at 24s, then put in a couple of decent strides at 27s, then ease up again to lope along outside the leader, refusing to go past.
THEN remember that prizemoney comes from the punters, and they only have so much patience for backing the best dog in the race and watching it play silly buggers and throw the race away.
"Don't back the dog if you don't trust it to give 100%". Yeah, sure. But if there's one of them in every race then punters won't bother betting in any races; if you can't trust a dog to try, you can't trust it not try either. You can't back it, but you can't bet against it. Sport is easier to figure out than greyhounds anyway, and you get more entertainment for your buck from an 80 minute game than a 31 second race. Plus if you tell people you like greyhound racing they think you're weird, while if you like Rugby or Football you're a normal bloke.
If it wouldn't have even gotten a warning in Australia, maybe it should head over there.
I took part in the Kiwi Punting Champs heat last week, on Friday's Addington meeting. It was hard going early on; the fave in the first had had two tickets for failing to chase and wore blinkers, in Race 3 the fave had marred on debut then taken three trials to (hopefully) get right, then Race 4 had a favourite who had marred on debut and needed SEVEN trials before being allowed to make his second start, 602 days after his first. If I hadn't had to bet on every race under the rules of the competition, I wouldn't have gone near any of those races. I avoid Addington in general, even though I bet more on NZ Greyhounds than anything else. But I didn't realise it was this bad.
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I *think* it did. They were able to pay out win/place/quinella/trifecta bets when those results weren't going to be changed by the enquiry (eg. if the protest was 5th vs 4th they could pay out everything but the First Four. If it was 3rd vs 2nd they could pay out the win bets but not anything else).
I'm not 100% sure though.
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paperspast.natlib.govt.nz is a great resource for looking up snippets from old newspapers.
At a glance I found THIS dating back to 1878.
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The ride on Rodmar looked pretty aggressive. Firstly the whole "jumping up and down every second stride" thing looks rough, nevermind looking over the shoulder at the 100m, seeing you're home, then smacking the horse three more times anyway for fun.
It wasn't balance, poise, and letting the horse do its best with the odd bit of encouragement/persuasion if needed. It was a physical, over-the-top aggressive ride.
If a $500 fine gets all jockeys to decide not to ride in such an ugly violent manner, that's great.
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He rode a few at the jumpouts last week. He's carrying a couple of extra kgs but might ride a couple at the top of the weights on Horlicks day or Spring Classic day.
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6 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said:
I have heard of two horses that I want to put on Favourites list for the TAB to text me when they are running. I know that I have to pay for the text messages.
Would somebody, who knows how to do that, please tell me how to do that.
For Plushenko you can go to tab.co.nz/racing, near the top of the page where it says "Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow" etc click yesterday, go to the field for Race 1 at Matamata, scroll down to the field, click on the downwards-pointing arrow below the picture of the silks of Plushenko, then click the Bookmark icon to the right of the "Comment" section.
It appears you can no longer go back to look at fields older than yesterday, so going back to April for Hurricane Fighter's last start isn't an option. As Hacko mentioned, if you've backed him before you may be able to add him from your betting history.
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13 hours ago, Joe blogs said:
If you have own a dog you will know you have to qualify
17 hours ago, chiknsmack said:(I'm a punter and former licensed owner who never actually owned a dog, so I don't know all the ins and outs).
13 hours ago, Joe blogs said:You can not nominate the computer system will not let any dog into a field that isnt qualified
And the dog has qualified
Thanks. The info is up now on GRNZ. He won in 23.99 over 410m at Palmy last Monday. I'd have him clear second pick on that (at $3.50, with Bigtime Stella $2) so I've had something on him at $9.
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Heroic Valour got close to earning his purchase price back, and is now at stud in Australia.
Queen of Diamonds would be worth heaps more now than what she sold for.