Lee270744

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  1. Lee270744

    Police Raids

    There was a chap on here who said he would have had a large slice of the place six I see it paid $410. Tell me what you thought of Natalie Rasmussen's drive on Princess Tiffany in the first race at the last Jewel Meeting not that dissimilar to Matt Andersons?
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    Greg O'Conner

    Will they hold the NZ Cup on the second Tuesday or postpone till the court cases have finished, just asking because according to all harness social media Harness racing in NZ is finished. Can anyone tell me if thoroughbred racing in Australia closed down when Cassidy, Eades, and Moses fixed races in Sydney? As for Greg OConnor, some imbecile wrote last week he was arrested and off trackside did they get a stand-in to do Addington last Friday? How do you think that imbecile would react if someone posted on the media he was a Paedophile?
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    Police Raids

    How many of you have watched Johnny White on the first day at Nelson drew wide three deep should he have stayed out there I personally think he drove it ok the way he did I would like Tims version of the drive as he has probably watched more races than the rest of race cafe put together.
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    Police Raids

    Harness betting turnover holds up well despite race-fixing probe _ Stuff.co.nz.html
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    Police Raids

    What rock? I wanted to be a driver when Jack Stormont had White Star. I remember when Wolfie had a horse called Cardigan Bay.
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    Police Raids

    I just googled jockeys caught with drugs the first on was Galloping trainer bringing 20 million dollars worth in Fiji and hundreds of jockeys been caught I'm with you Gruff shut all horse racing and dog racing down and jail them all for life no more Melbourne Cups or Everests Nz Cups. And don't even worry about their livelihoods, the bastards with their Ring-Ins Cobalt, Milk shaking at the races, Thank god no Kiwi jockeys have ever been caught on drugs.
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    Police Raids

    That's funny I saw Bob Cameron in Hornby mall with a pair of white trousers and I said taking up lawn bowls Bob he said be buggered I'm getting ready for a comeback no drivers left.
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    Police Raids

    When the M mob and B power get caught flogging P to children are they afforded councilling and crying rooms it hasn't hurt their business and this will not affect harness racing. Did the Melbourne cup get canceled because of H Haitana and Fine Cotton no, so pull yourselves together nobody overdosed or died and if your panicking about a race being fixed get out of the game because every time you have a bet and it gets beat you will tell all it was rigged? BTW do the courts suppress names before they appear?
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    Police Raids

    If this is right that it took 80 police 18 months to arrive at this is it any wonder they couldn't get a conviction in the Kahui twins murder and must be burdened down with cold cases.I hope I am wrong with the actual number of police working in this.
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    Police Raids

    This should be made compulsory for members of other particular social media sites along with access to calming goats preferably neutered ones.
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    Police Raids

    Where is Edward Renell in all of this I see that Garrick Knight has plenty to report, can anyone elaborate if it is any more than a couple of races and a few disco lollies?
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    Police Raids

    They only started raiding them on Tuesday and hadn't charged some of them till Tuesday night.
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    Police Raids

    Have they all been to court?
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    dream about Tim

    Stop gambling it's affecting your judgment read the post above yours it might give you a clue why she won dah.
  15. Lee270744

    Police Raids

    Most of there phones were tapped they heard all conversations read all emails and texts.
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    Police Raids

    Dah might own Sportscaster. Trained by A Stuart.
  17. Lee270744

    Police Raids

    Galloping and trotting have flourished since these names appeared as race fixers. A very small sample below. Danny Nicolic Nathan Jack Shane Graham Jim Cassidy Kevin Moses Gavin Eades Josh Cartwright Billy and Joe Patin LeSean Conyers PaulDoe Greg Fairley Jimmy Quinn Kirsty Milczarec
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    Police Raids

    Posted 11 minutes ago Michael Guerin: The evidence that could bring racing industry to its knees COMMENT: Whether the current harness racing race fixing blow ends up a bleeding nose or a gaping wound will almost certainly depend on the contents of texts and phone calls now in police hands. Some of the industry's biggest names spent at least part of today in police custody, and while unconfirmed, some have already been charged with race fixing or similar offences. Names at the centre of the investigation named Operation Inca include last season's premiership-winning driver Blair Orange, the man he dethroned for that title Dexter Dunn, and Dunn's brother John, himself a leading driver. The Herald understands at least one other successful Canterbury trainer was extensively questioned by police, while they also visited the stables of champion trainers Mark Purdon and Natalie Rasmussen, with Purdon reportedly not part of the investigation. While police today suggested race fixing and potentially drugs are at the centre of their investigations the Herald was told that illegal performance-enhancing substances used on horses are not the focal point of Operation Inca. The investigation was sparked by information passed to police by the Racing Integrity Unit as early as April last year and police have tapped phones and checked text messages as part of the investigation. What they found or are still to find in those texts or calls will be crucial to building a case against any of those under investigation because race fixing is incredibly hard to prove. And often even harder to actually achieve. While there have and always will be those who are suspicious of racing being "fixed", the reality is it has never been cleaner because of technology. Most trainers and drivers/jockeys don't bet because it is too easy to trace, with bookies openly supplying betting records to authorities. So any of the people under investigation placing a bet on a race they were involved with would set off alarm bells regardless of the result. Which is why the spouses of several of those under investigation were also questioned today, to see whether they had placed bets on their partner's behalf. That is almost certain to be a dead end. What is more likely to end up at the centre of the investigation and any future charges will be betting activities of third parties who bet on information supplied by horsepeople and may have rewarded them for that information. That in itself is an offence but a relatively minor one. The real problem for harness racing would be if any of the parties involved colluded to rig a race, supplied that information to a third party and benefited from that information and any money subsequently won. That would have huge ramifications, an iceberg to racing's Titanic. Text messages, phone calls or face-to-face conversations between punters looking for a tip, even just an opinion, from horsepeople have been going on for as long as there have been phones or racetracks. So if the text messages, recordings and apparently emails, the latter a seemingly very strange way to fix a race, confirm that any drivers knew each other's plans and passed that information on, then harness racing has a problem like cricket's famous match fixing scandals. The other option is a punter ringing multiple horsepeople, putting that information together and betting accordingly for their own purposes. Christchurch-based owner Graham Beirne also had property raided today but was overseas and denies any wrongdoing. Whether any punter, in New Zealand or overseas, would have the money and more importantly the power to fix a race and convince the people at the centre of this investigation is questionable. Such scams are incredibly hard to pull off, as the mastermind needs drivers capable of controlling the main variables of the race without outside interference. The money gambled on New Zealand harness races is relatively small compared with overseas thoroughbred action and any unusual transactions are easily spotted and the driving tactics around them noted. The electronic trail is so pronounced, the telecommunications so easy to track, anybody engaging in prolonged race-fixing would be certain to get caught. This investigation could last a long time but regardless of how it pans out, to the punting public, perception is often reality, and harness racing's reputation has taken a huge blow. The irony is this: Orange and Dexter Dunn travelled to almost every race meeting they attended last season together. I spoke to them before, after and sometimes even during those meetings. They are, hand on heart, two of the worst tipsters I have ever met among the leading horsepeople and if your betting strategy was punting on what they thought was going to happen, you would go broke. But now the racing industry will wait to find out what was said, texted and written.
  19. Lee270744

    Police Raids

    Is this breaking news?
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    Police Raids

    Do you think Hunter and Brodie have reached for the Helpline? See what one of those Imbeciles wrote? Posted 18 minutes ago john blair nigel all clean
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    Police Raids

    Sydney racing has blossomed and they have had a few races fixed look at all the jockeys disqualified over the years. I can't see 370 trainers give up racing.
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    Police Raids

    The first photo was taken this morning. But no photos of other 9 stables.
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    Police Raids

    Christchurch car industry king pin, racehorse owner and major punter Graham Beirne, speaking to Stuff from Bali where he is on holiday, said he had heard about the raids on Canterbury trainers and knew police wanted to interview him. "I'm a suspect put it that way. The police have been to our place this morning but I'm not there. All I have to say is one word: nonsense. "I don't know where it's coming from. If they are talking race fixing, it's nonsense. It doesn't happen, so we'll see what they come up with but they are obviously taking it seriously because they have raided stables all over the place." Four police cars and 12 police officers had come to his Fendalton house to execute a search warrant on Tuesday morning and apparently seized computers and devices, he said. "There is nothing to worry about. "I am a big bettor. They would pick on me probably because three or four years ago there was an article in the Sunday Star Times which said I was the most successful punter in New Zealand and they couldn't beat me, and that was true at the time. "But I haven't made any money in the last two years. The TAB records will show that." Race fixing may have occurred in the distant past but checks and balances in the current system made it too difficult, he said. The other issue in the industry was doping but he didn't know anything about that. Beirne said he would not return immediately to New Zealand and planned to come back as scheduled on Saturday. "By all accounts they are going to meet me at the airport." He said he was "flippant" about the investigation but "I feel sorry for the trainers involved. I feel bad for the guys and the people they are interviewing. It's their livelihood. It's terrible for them". "It tarnishes all their reputations even if nothing is found which there won't be." He didn't know if any other big punters were part of the investigation. "I'm a reclusive creature so I don't know who else. "It's a game for me although you always need the money. I like beating the system. It's only pacers and trotters." He had about 30 horses that were trained by a number of trainers, he said. "I don't need to race fix. I've got the pension now."
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    Police Raids

    It's strange to see photos of the only stable not implicated in race fixing. no photos of the ones arrested. Is this the first time there has been a rort into racing?
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    Police Raids

    Have All-Stars got stables in Invercargill and Manawatu and 5 other properties in Canterbury?