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Scotch Thistle

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    Scotch Thistle reacted to chiknsmack in TAB......... Please explain   
    You can't think of a $7 percentage quaddie as a $7 bet, because it's not one bet. It's 120 individual bets, some with a stake of $0.05 and some with a stake of $0.06. So, "I had a $7 bet and had the winner in the first leg, some other people didn't have the winner, therefore I should get my $7 back plus a share of the money from the people who didn't have the winner" is faulty thinking. While you had the first leg winner on some of your tickets, you also had first leg losers on most of your tickets.
    In reality, you had 12 winning $0.05 bets, each of which paid out $0.35. You also had 108 losing $0.05 & $0.06 bets, which paid out nothing.
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from La Zip in NZB May Sale today   
    Where do the people that buy them fit into his wisdom? 
    If they paid $450,000 for Mongolian Beauty as a yearling, and sold her as a 3 year old for a sale-topping $180,000 after she won stakes of $26,200 they must be well up the fool scale?
    Perhaps the trainers will cough up 10% of the decrease in value?  No way, they are wise men as they get gravy on the up and shrug shoulders on the down.
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from chevy86 in NZB May Sale today   
    Where do the people that buy them fit into his wisdom? 
    If they paid $450,000 for Mongolian Beauty as a yearling, and sold her as a 3 year old for a sale-topping $180,000 after she won stakes of $26,200 they must be well up the fool scale?
    Perhaps the trainers will cough up 10% of the decrease in value?  No way, they are wise men as they get gravy on the up and shrug shoulders on the down.
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to N1MUE in TAB   
    oh dear me alright - loving your command of the English language
    You're mixing up a few issues here.  I feel for Opie and his struggle with weight, and I rate him as a top jockey.  But that's not the point of this discussion.
    Those who bet on him did so with their eyes open - everyone knows about his weight issues.  The TAB has no obligation to refund those bets.  Should they refund bets where dogs turn in the boxes?  where trotters break up and take no part in the race?  where a horse loses its jockey coming out of the barriers?
    and as for the fine and the suspension - as much as I like him as a jockey he shouldn't accept rides where he can't make the weight - that's not fair on punters.
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to chelseacol in Searching woman's handbags oaks day trentham   
    got to justify your existence while you strut around trying to look like you know what you are doing.... cause more grief than they prevent or solve at racecourses
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to jess in Jordan Nason   
    Scooby I was reluctant to bother replying to that but can I just say - there wouldn't even be a racecafe if the only ones allowed an opinion here were people who had done it +/- been champions at it ...
    And I can't be bothered offering my credentials to try to justify what I thought was a respectfully expressed observation ... 
    J.
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to puha in gisborne sunday   
    Today was a shining light  the total opposite to what we’d get on a mundane artificial surface with the same trainers and horses going around and around.
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from Patiti in Horse ambulances for NZ.   
    Indeed.  The announcement promotes warm fuzzies, but exposure of the practical impacts is necessary for a rounded view.
    If my 8 year old gelding breaks down in a hurdle race, will I still be able to have him put down right away on course, rather than prolong his suffering getting carted off into the unknown in an ambulance?  If my Group 1 winning mare (just dreaming) breaks down horrifically while pulling up after creaming Kawi and company, can I demand she gets ambulance service though the vets on course want to put her down immediately?
    We now and then have race meetings interrupted when the ambulance for humans has taken a jockey away to hospital, and have to wait until a replacement ambulance arrives before a meeting resumes.  Will this apply also with horse ambulances?
    Are there any studs which currently have horse ambulances?  The bigger ones have greater numbers of thoroughbreds on their properties than run at many race meetings.  And, while in horse welfare terms it mightn't be relevant, the horses at stud have economic value many times that of the full cards at industry meetings. 
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to Blue in Kawi v Start Wondering   
    I know he was George Simon's first pick but I think he was mostly hopeful when he said he'd hit the front 300 out. Might be the angle of the TV in my lounge but, though he was very wide he didn't ever look to be within three lengths of the lead IMHO.
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to Dockers in TE RAPA   
    Credit is due to Te Rapa.  Most other tracks with this much rain would have not gone ahead. 
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from jess in TE RAPA   
    Agree.  Also transparency for punters, who are less likely to "play" if there are doubts about the amount of rain affecting the going and the likelihood of late scratchings.
    The comments on this and other threads show a comprehensive lack of confidence that clubs give out information, good and bad, with timeliness and forthrightness. 
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to chelseacol in Right! That's it; surely!   
    Great post We're Doomed.
    In recent times as a punter I have looked at a raceday and thought pass as there are only one or two races I am interested in studying and betting on. Largely due to small field sizes etc.Happened with both meetings on Waitangi Day. More to come this weekend.
    This is down to a variety of issues but as you correctly identify handicapping and meeting programming are perhaps the two key ones.
    Funnily enough they would appear to be the cheapest and easiest ones to fix as well. No  capital spend. Just the right people appointed and get it sorted (and you would think looking at what happens overseas and listening to industry players gives you all the information you need to improve these areas). They are not trying to invent time travel for gods sake.
    These areas are entirely within their control. No need for a Govt handout, or legislation or trying to get money out of overseas betting organisations. By all means have a crack at those other things. But get our own house in order and change/improve things we control.
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to Leggy in Abandonments - RNZ This Morning   
    And generate about as much revenue as the residents there.
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to shaneMcAlister in Public Opinion Against Supporting the Racing Industry   
    My stance is if the government want to run racing then they have to fund it if required.  If they do not want to fund it then privatise it.
    If it is privatised it has to stand on its own two feet. 
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to dock leaf in Public Opinion Against Supporting the Racing Industry   
    Peter Moody mentioned the importance of strengthening grassroots racing in his interview with George Simon at Ellerslie the other night, but since then all we've seen and heard is crayfish, champagne, backslapping, winking and record prices. Good viewing for us aspirational racing folk but it must be sickening to the Labour voters. 
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from Hermione in Karaka tv coverage   
    I see a NZ Thoroughbred Racing news item referred to Sir Patrick as "the sales doyenne".
    No doubt intended as flattery, but entirely missed the mark, a doyenne being the most respected or prominent woman in a particular field.
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from Fartoomuch in Karaka tv coverage   
    I see a NZ Thoroughbred Racing news item referred to Sir Patrick as "the sales doyenne".
    No doubt intended as flattery, but entirely missed the mark, a doyenne being the most respected or prominent woman in a particular field.
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to chelseacol in Trackside on Sky vs Free to Air   
    I saw them close the gate while people were going through it and queued up. Absolute morons. Your post confirms it.
    I actually think security often cause as much grief as they prevent... but that's another story
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to Huey in Aiden R   
    Agree she was very good I thought, SI racing is a hard sell at the best of times she sounded quite enthusiastic about it.
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from Insider in Aiden R   
    Seemed to me there were new elements of professionalism in the Trackside TV coverage of Trentham, for example Tony Lee throwing to Emily Bosson for her interviews with the winning jockeys (which usually were good, and thankfully without problems with communications).  
    The production side of things is way better than the contributions from the on-air "experts" Rodley, Sweeney and Popplewell.  In their defence, however, I would say that they have earnest enthusiasm for what they are doing, and seem to have good relations with the trainers, jockeys, etc they interview.
    I stumbled on dire content on the Trackside radio show with Peter Early after 11 am.  Stipendiary stewards giving insipid renderings race by race of stuff from RIU reports and gear changes involving mind-numbing trivia (nose bands, nasal strips, shadow rolls, etc).  It was a sorry experience after the upbeat sports programme it followed.
     
     
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from elbow in Aiden R   
    Seemed to me there were new elements of professionalism in the Trackside TV coverage of Trentham, for example Tony Lee throwing to Emily Bosson for her interviews with the winning jockeys (which usually were good, and thankfully without problems with communications).  
    The production side of things is way better than the contributions from the on-air "experts" Rodley, Sweeney and Popplewell.  In their defence, however, I would say that they have earnest enthusiasm for what they are doing, and seem to have good relations with the trainers, jockeys, etc they interview.
    I stumbled on dire content on the Trackside radio show with Peter Early after 11 am.  Stipendiary stewards giving insipid renderings race by race of stuff from RIU reports and gear changes involving mind-numbing trivia (nose bands, nasal strips, shadow rolls, etc).  It was a sorry experience after the upbeat sports programme it followed.
     
     
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from Cubes in Aiden R   
    Seemed to me there were new elements of professionalism in the Trackside TV coverage of Trentham, for example Tony Lee throwing to Emily Bosson for her interviews with the winning jockeys (which usually were good, and thankfully without problems with communications).  
    The production side of things is way better than the contributions from the on-air "experts" Rodley, Sweeney and Popplewell.  In their defence, however, I would say that they have earnest enthusiasm for what they are doing, and seem to have good relations with the trainers, jockeys, etc they interview.
    I stumbled on dire content on the Trackside radio show with Peter Early after 11 am.  Stipendiary stewards giving insipid renderings race by race of stuff from RIU reports and gear changes involving mind-numbing trivia (nose bands, nasal strips, shadow rolls, etc).  It was a sorry experience after the upbeat sports programme it followed.
     
     
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to TOM(the other Molloy) in Kumara   
    told you there would be no contingency
    and in turning down the Reefton offer no consideration to stakeholders whatsoever 
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    Scotch Thistle reacted to We're Doomed in Stop it, Tony!   
    Interesting comments. I do have some sympathy for the weasel. The one big bet is obviously largely only of interest to one person, and as it was probably someone connected to the stable it means the average punter feels left out of the loop. I just watched the race and the poor girl who got thrown from her horse was virtually ignored when it happened and in the post race comments, so I think there could have been better balance there. And the minor places did change dramatically over the last 50 metres so punters needed some info there as well.
    But surely the big story was the chap who got called in at the last minute to call the first two races and did a hell of a good job I thought. No one seems to have mentioned him anywhere. Well done that man.
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    Scotch Thistle got a reaction from sir1galivant in Bloody Hell...   
    Mark McNamara and English Emily did their jobs well, and the camera crew.  The rest should be on the minimum adult wage.