JBK, Let the horses do the talking on the track, I dealt with several Tavistock colts last season, they had attitude and were well put together with good size, until the barriers open we won't know how good they are. If you had a Zabeel or Sir Tristram do you need a good strike rate with other Stallions and the success of these stallions has helped open up the industry to get the likes of the Coolmore stallions down here. (please note I don't work for CS)