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To be a little fair,This is an open class race and probably equivalent to about 25k now but you are correct in that stakes have definitely not kept up with costs.It was harder to win a race back in the day with bigger fields and a lot less race meetings also and a lot more horses never even made it to the track.

???? He has been proven guilty.

The only thing we know for sure is that he was charged with assault [Does it matter when?],convicted in a court of law and is now awaiting sentence.

Why is P4P suggesting the RIU may be involved in the assault charges? Is it just a rumour or fact?If you don't know it for a fact why say it??

Why bring the RIU into this?Surely the complaint with the Police was layed when the complainant rang them for help because she thought she might be killed.

True

How could you run out of money.You only accept money but don't give any back.

Good.Are you anti racing in the bottom half of the North Island because you don't like the place.

No.He's in Race 10.

Tasman Man.I didn't say it doesn't cost anything for the TAB to move around but the cost is minor compared to the $17 million I hear they have to pay each year for running the site.I hope you are right about Addington and that fields are even and the betting public don't get sick of the same old thing each week.Time will tell.Rural breeders,owners and trainers will still be leaving though with no local meetings.

Tasman Man.I didn't say it doesn't cost anything for the TAB to move around but the cost is minor compared to the $17 million I hear they have to pay each year for running the site.I hope you are right about Addington and that fields are even and the betting public don't get sick of the same old thing each week.Time will tell.Rural breeders,owners and trainers will still be leaving though with no local meetings.

Stables.No one is twisting your arm to make you go to these meetings.Stick to the ones in your district.The extra costs to the TAB would be minimal or are you suggesting that betting will be higher at a low grade Thursday meeting at Addington than if that meeting was at say Forbury.

Wobbler.I agree with you completely.

Stables.Stupid decisions can be changed or do you think they are good decisions because in the short term you may better off.Think of the long term life of harness racing.Keep chipping away at the foundations and eventually the top will fall over.

John Legend.Couldn't agree with you more.

That is a stupid argument.It doesn't cost HRNZ or the TAB anything if trainers and owners from outside the district decide to race at Manawatu.How do you think they are going to be able to hold a meeting in Nelson.Will the NZ cup only be eligible to Canterbury horses.Do you want to kill off all owners,trainers etc in the smaller districts just to keep the major areas happy with less traveling.How long will harness racing last if this is allowed to happen.

Does anyone know if racing will be allowed in any form under the new Level 3 announcements?

Banning nebulizers and injections close to raceday seems to have evened up the playing field a little.

Orange Roughie

Agree with What a Post.The reality is there are just not enough horses in the north.The clubs are trying to match like for like but you can't have 20 races with 5 horse in each.Would these owners who say their horse is no longer competitive be willing to race in a claimer where they are competitive but with the chance someone else will buy it?Nellie-you had a young horse who went up the grades early and a older horse who had won a lot of races and was coming down the grades-surely at some stage one or the other would have been competitive or were the costs too high to get to this stage.

Lee.I think this topic is more aimed at other trainers and owners than punters.Why not just ban its use and save everyone $900 per horse.

Iraklis-you say perfomance enhancing additives would be picked up.How do you know the serum itself isn't performance enhancing? Also if you used the red blood cells would this be picked up in a swab.

I'm sayin the video looked very amateurish.Havin a mask half on face and not coverin nose and it does not look very good just tippin whats left down the sink.Is that the hi tech lab or just some back room off some building.Anyohe could get hold of a centrifuge and ultra violet light and a few test tubes and beakers.Do you have to be registered to do this or can anyone do it becuase the results are un-detectable.

Jack makes some very good points.If it is only for treating injuries,then why spray it into the lungs?It use can't be detected because its part of the horses own blood but then again so are the red blood cells and it was laughable on the video to see them tipping these down the sink.

He's on the Unruly to help him get away trotting and it seems to be working.If I was you I would only back him for a place.