Hunter the punter

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    Hunter the punter reacted to Ohokaman in Auckland Noms   
    You have to wonder how a Club that has been going successfully ( for the most part ) since 1890, that has readily accessible, prime real estate in a central Auckland location worth multi millions, has quality infrastructure suited to a variety of applications, and a first rate track, could possibly find itself in the situation it does.
    The Board must take criticism for allowing the previous “management” ( term used loosely ) to put the Club and its assets at risk with this flight of fancy real estate development. It was clearly not thought through enough or the likely contingencies allowed for...the decision appears to have been made on a presentation which highlighted how much money they were going to make...and the “saviour of the industry” slogan we heard at the time.
    Throw in senior people out of their depth, lax regulatory control/management, lack of commercial experience and marketing nous and ignoring your core business....and here we are.....
     
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    Hunter the punter reacted to Iraklis in What the.....   
    Word Mikie  I asked my vet and he said the same, there is no one cause, but that dehydration, low electrolytes - sweating up loses vital hydration etc can be a factor, but it can happen to any horse it aint selective, and it doesn't necessarily mean the end of a racing career either.....
    Flawed, what makes you think the Princess has been 'red lined' - thrashed (as in car racing thats what the term means) just because she's a very talented filly who knows how to run and win, do you really think Mark and Nat are the type of people who would do that to their precious bloodstock, come on now......
     
    Cheers Iraklis
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    Hunter the punter reacted to Flawed Genius in What the.....   
    My point being that you can only "red line" a horse for so long before something has to give. It just so happens that fillies tend to hit that wall earlier than colts and gelding do. But they all have a breaking point!
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    Hunter the punter reacted to Ohokaman in What the.....   
    Thought Bettors Heart was huge..had to do all the work only to get nutted by a horse who got the rails run after doing nothing.
    Peter will be spitting chips.....
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tasman man 11 in Auckland Noms   
    I'm not Tim but its one of the 'criteria' in the PBD book of tricks.
    Normally its on winning stakes then on sex , but with no winners in field it reverts to sex. 
    The girls get the cosier draws as per the track grid.
    Its a real issue juggling horses into fields each week.....often not like v like ,so many have no show .
    Unless South horses come up for the group races , many are just making up the numbers as fields have such wide band of ratings /abilities.
    Two lowly wins and you racing strong "Intermediate grade pacers " or maybe even an Interdom runner !
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    Hunter the punter reacted to Mikie in Nui ba den   
    I have raced many horses at Alexandra Park, with more  success than average
    I'm not agreeing entirely with Stables but the cost of having a horse trained up North is a factor (going the wrong way may be an issue for some, but not all)
    Yes, the South has the All Stars who are at the higher end of the scale on a per day basis, but the South also has a huge number of hobby trainers who are 50/50 with mates in a horse
    Don't underestimate how many there are, just have a count-up at the next Banks Peninsula meeting 
    Those hobby Trainers don't bolster the numbers at Alexandra Park and, yes, for the reasons that Stables has put forward (land cost, training track availability)
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    Hunter the punter reacted to eljay in Sad state of affairs   
    They've done funnier things!!
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    Hunter the punter reacted to eljay in Sad state of affairs   
    Two big problems - I am not "one of them" but mainly I been around this game for hell knows how long and the callouses on the callouses on my head after so many bangs over time says surely it's time for younger ideas.      
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in Sad state of affairs   
    I think it's safe to assume pukekohe will be sold.
     
     
     
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in Nui ba den   
    Gary you wouldthi k she would get recognition in hrnz awards won the premiership last 4 or 5best udr pays to trek to all these places and works for nothin g the rest of the week.real soul of the game like yourself.im biased of course.
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in Inca collapse continues   
    Yup .The cards stacked when it comes to the dosh. 
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    Hunter the punter reacted to Mikie in Inca collapse continues   
    I don't know the wording of the lesser charge
    I do know that NMcG didn't really want to plead guilty to even the lesser charge, but the costs of lawyers versus the penalty meant that any sane person had to bend over and take a small one up the %^&
    It is not a fair system where you have to plead guilty just to avoid legal costs
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in Attendance at Rotorua today   
    It don't help those screaming for grass track racing
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in What will the excuse be this time?   
    Yessssssssssxs
     
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    Hunter the punter reacted to Basil brush in What will the excuse be this time?   
    What happens if the owner has already spent the money?Messey
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    Hunter the punter got a reaction from JJ Flash in What will the excuse be this time?   
    I be happy to drive the getaway car for u only tim
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tasman man 11 in Attendance at Rotorua today   
    Good on for going eljay....at the best times its close to 3 hours drive, each way , and inevitably accidents cause delays.Plus there are 20 major roadworks around Auckland City to get around before the real drive starts.
    The holiday was in Auckland and thanks to rate payers like you there was a ton of things organised over the Anniversary weekend.....some cost to get in e.g. Music festivals but others were free.Many were 'family events'.Then there were the 'free' natural events like fishing ,sailing and swimming...I can tell you the beaches were packed ,and one in 3 households own a boat!
    Those with money leftover or flush with back to school  commitments still had the Malls/Briscoes/Harvey Norman luring folk in.
    Tauranga had stuff on as well and Hamilton had the 7's rugby.....Auckland had International cricket.
    Even I could find 15 excuses not to undertake over 6 hours driving in a stuffy gas guzzling car...and I had a share in 3 horses racing !...especially after a good night at ATC Friday and a fab day at Ellerslie on Saturday.
    Eljay you deserve a medal........Anniversary Day Monday would be ideal for a meeting at Avondale ,maybe a dual code day with markets open and family fun .
    But already there's too much on in Auckland.
    Let's ask people to drive to Rotorua ....didn't Rotorua Trots previously race on December 31st ? A week either side of New Year would make more sense !
    IMO
     
     
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in What will the excuse be this time?   
    Really I wonder what I was doing since 5 this morning.conditioning jogging fast work  and swimming like every other trainer.the number of positive swabs are very  low.we ain't stupid.we know we will be caught so we don't do it. It's like robbing a bank and leaving your fingerprints.
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in What will the excuse be this time?   
    Accident for sure. Timing .u need to be a professor of chemistry these days. Fine for sure.
     
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    Hunter the punter reacted to eljay in Attendance at Rotorua today   
    Embarrassing
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tasman man 11 in Attendance at Rotorua today   
    No great surprise Lloyd......holiday period for most is finished ,back at work ,schools heading back.
    Roads generally bad , Rotorua really not a 'harness' area and I guess little promotion done as meeting not a Summer Festival meeting.
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in Ratings system/Winners   
    Soul destroy g taking horses u know no chance.like with like yeah right.a trainer who has  had a couple of wins with average horse walked off the course saying never again.one of the greatest horseman ever said to me they trying to fuck the game and doing a good job. Who is who.lots of possibilities.
    Is this what Alex park wants group horses killing shitters.a premiership winning trainer bailed me up .they forcing me out of the game.the handicapping system has to go.the 4 horse field  had an audience  of not many.saw one director Scott plant there.always is.some never come at all.sorry Derek balle was too.top men but the rest no sight of.didnt spot ceo either.bugger  me.this is serious shit 
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    Hunter the punter reacted to tim vince in Ratings system/Winners   
    6 races 4k 2to 3 points for winner every 20 minutes.alex park Tuesday.whhy not. Alex park  would be the most underused track of its quality, location in the world.over 52 weeks prob 7 races a week..its nonsense.
     
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    Hunter the punter reacted to Mikie in Ratings system/Winners   
    In writing this firstly let me point out that I fully agree with Tim Vince as regards the current Ratings System
    I don't care for it and the sheer number of changes, trials and tweaking merely confirm it isn't working
    However, with any system at all be it the previous class system or a Ratings system, or a $ based system, no matter what the system is there will still be the same number of winners today as there was yesterday unless more races are run
    If New Zealand runs 2000 harness events there are 2000 winners
    Under one system Tim might win 100 races, Eljay 20, Herlihy 50, Green 70 and so on and on
    Changing the system might mean that Eljay's previously average horses (in terms of wins) suddenly can drop down and race poorer horses and instead of 20 Eljay might win 60 races (great effort Eljay)
    But someone else must then train 40 less winners, so they won't be happy!
    It sounds pretty simple, but I think most posters don't get it
    You can never keep everyone happy
    Mikie
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    Hunter the punter reacted to eljay in Where   
    Across the forehead  presume you mean .     A blinding light from the Penthouses.