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What was the story there? Why all the jocks complaining?
Not enough water to hard?
Or to loose and shifting on top?

Just need someone to get off their arse and do it. , stop complaining about the people who have and make some noise themselves.
OGP Would be a great venture, but it does take a lot of time, patience, love for all not just their self, like most racing people do, care about themselves not the game..
not saying you are, just someone needs to do something and stop bagging the doers!!
 
Polos are a start tho

Just need someone to get off their arse and do it. , stop complaining about the people who have and make some noise themselves.
OGP Would be a great venture, but it does take a lot of time, patience, love for all not just their self, like most racing people do, care about themselves not the game..
not saying you are, just someone needs to do something and stop bagging the doers!!
 
Polos are a start tho

Sadly the owners federation and the trainers association are as weak as each other.
Until we stand united , nothing will change in our once great industry!

My understanding is that the NZ TAB provide nothing to BGP in the way of any rebate or affiliate scheme.

Tell you what - there's a group of people that hang out on these sites and say that the racing game is dying. They bemoan everything new that comes, bag the shit out of people who are trying to add interest to the game and create new ways and initiatives for people to get involved. Largely they are bitter keyboard warriors. They make little to no contribution in most instances other than to sit back and moan and bitch about absolutely nothing.
Yet, they are the same people that when a something like BGP comes along, look for the negatives in it. Bag the people behind it, through wild accusations around and can't see past the end of their own crooked and bent noses. Here's a new flash, it's because of people with mindsets like this that the industry is struggling in some corners. The negativity is ridiculous. Yes, there are things that can be done and things that need improved - show me a sector of life where there isn't some struggles. 
I joined Boys Get Paid back when there was less then 100 members. It was a group of lads who threw the odd tip around in the hope of making a quick buck. Largely it was pretty successful, there was some good heat and some big bets landed. Over the past two years I've sat back and watched that page morph into something quite remarkable. I grew up in a township of non racing people. I could reel off a list of about 50 people from my small town who are now frequent racing punters because of BGP - they got a taste, and they liked it. 
It's nontraditional in the sense that there is banter, noise and a new way of looking at punting - but you can't deny that it's a real positive for our industry. They're pumping money across the tote, not just on the big days but even days like today. This morning a tip was posted for a horse at Manawatu. In an hour that horse had moved from it's $31 quote into $11 and it's still dropping. There are countless examples of weights on money being placed on horses because of the BGP input. 
One person throws a tip up and you can almost guarantee that a good percentage of the wagering on that particular runner will be held by members of BGP. 
Luke Kemeys is a bloody genius. The foresight that man has and the ideas him and his mates have come up with for the future are exciting. 
The establishment of the foundation is only another positive step forward, they want to bring people back to the races, encourage the industry to be better and challenge those who have had it good for far too long. And they're doing it in a way which may just ensure that the missing generation of punters are slowly but surely returning to the game. How anyone can bemoan a request that will only be beneficial for the industry going forward is beyond me. 
Like anything, it's not yet perfect and it probably never will be. But it's heading in the right direction and being driven by a group of enthusiastic racing fans who have some pretty smart business acumen behind them. And from what I can see it's only going to get better. 

No i literally come on here and read posts where all you do is whinge about everything. I don’t care what you think of me..
You pleople all complain about every aspect of racing yet when something new comes along you complain about that. 
When have i ever claimed that racing owes BGP anything. Dont ever put words on me that i did not say

Stick to the topic? These plenty of claims flying around about people who run bgp on here without them been pulled up. I got called a tosser the other day or is it just selective people you call out

this is a no brainer give them what they want within reason another 10 more groups like this and the racing game is back

No, they volunteer mate.
 
The boys that do this have been on committees, are owners and have worked at racecourses. Why do you want to drag something down you no nothing about?
oh thats right its the New Zealand racing way, if its different bag it.
they turned over $200k plus in their room alone, more than most courses do in a day, making the club 15k plus from their room alone
They could of done it through phones or overseas agencies, prob getting better options and prices!
Just let them be, if they make some money helping the industry and have started a foundation, let them.
maybe do some research before bagging them on a site full of people that love to moan. 
Isn’t this a good thing? Bringing people, fun, money, new owners, new youth to a game thats deteriorating weekly?

Nope, do you bring 300 people and 170000 dollars?
do you know how much work goes on behind the scenes before and after, all for free, and they have started a non profit foundation, whats anyone else in this fuked game doing?? Except sitting on their arse bagging every other person or idea out there??

And what, racing dies in 5-10 years, no young people to carry it on, you lot need to grow up and see what  good this is doing!
they do a bit more for racing than NZTR are at the moment, and for free

And what, racing dies in 5-10 years, no young people to carry it on, you lot need to grow up and see what  good this is doing!
they do a bit more for racing than NZTR are at the moment, and for free

Nope, do you bring 300 people and 170000 dollars?
do you know how much work goes on behind the scenes before and after, all for free, and they have started a non profit foundation, whats anyone else in this fuked game doing?? Except sitting on their arse bagging every other person or idea out there??

First time poster long time reader. Also member of Te Rapa, KFE needs to go, most committee members have an interest in Te Akau horses abosolute disgrace.

Brad is gone, down to “restructuring”, inherited a track with bugger all maintenance done to it in the past 5+ years, old fozzy Foskett has been trying to get them to do deep renovation work on it for years. Now they have done it, track has played great last 4-5 meetings!
Ken should be gone, look at the turnover of staff in the last 4-5 years, 3 cater crews, now 3 track managers, that only what I know, apparently office staff is worse!!

Brad is gone, down to “restructuring”, inherited a track with bugger all maintenance done to it in the past 5+ years, old fozzy Foskett has been trying to get them to do deep renovation work on it for years. Now they have done it, track has played great last 4-5 meetings!
Ken should be gone, look at the turnover of staff in the last 4-5 years, 3 cater crews, now 3 track managers, that only what I know, apparently office staff is worse!!

Brad is gone, down to “restructuring”, inherited a track with bugger all maintenance done to it in the past 5+ years, old fozzy Foskett has been trying to get them to do deep renovation work on it for years. Now they have done it, track has played great last 4-5 meetings!
Ken should be gone, look at the turnover of staff in the last 4-5 years, 3 cater crews, now 3 track managers, that only what I know, apparently office staff is worse!!