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  1. 7 hours ago, GOM said:

    ...Most of us as members having been  presented with the same circumstances as Deb ...

     

     

    What are these mysterious circumstances? It's worth knowing for other LP's who aren't club members. May affect all of us.

  2. 1 hour ago, Rules For Some said:

    You would find case law in NZ would beg to differ. Many industries have limits on what they can trade, do, or catch, especially in relation to animal welfare.

    If a limit was put on the amount of Greyhounds breed, case law would favour the limitations in my opinion, especially when you start questioning how 1800-2500 dogs are bred and imported each year, and only 500 are rehomed on a good year

    A quota system might work in terms of keeping the public onside but it would favor the bigger kennels.
    Not sure where you get those figures but I have a feeling you're well wide of the mark

  3. 6 minutes ago, Flabbergasted said:

       

    The larger kennels may now be breeding more and therefore becoming more dominant - good for them ...

    Is it really good for them if they sink the whole sport and theirs and everyone elses future in it also?

  4. We might have to make a choice between jobs for the few or a hobby for the many I fear. 
    Poorly managed for a very long time with not enough foot on the brakes even now. Regardless what we may all think is the answer there's more to this than just our opinions, and if we don't sort this out we'll all pay for it. The old adage, too little, too late springs to mind.

  5. We've all had a few days to reflect on this and it just looks more and more remarkable to me. Blind leading the blind.

    They call John Key "the smiling assassin"? Hello, it's Winston.

    If anyone else had called in an Aussie who gives recommendations to flog off half our venues in the greatest land grab since the treaty of Waitangi while suggesting giving the keys to the till to the Aussie TABCorp - this report would go down like a ton of bricks.

    Would we take the ride if it was someone from the green party standing up with this exact same message?

    For example, Gareth Hughes says we are going to cut the number of venues in half, and give up the huge amount of intellectual capital that's gone into the Kiwi IT and infrastructure side of things, the jobs there, and let the show be run from Aussie.  

    Same message, different messenger.

    It could be a masterstroke from Labour greens. Get Mr Trusted to sell them the worst deal ever and they'll buy it. 

    For the short term Winston just needs next election's votes.
    Will he even run in the next election?

    Perhaps WP doesn't even know he's the fall guy. There could be some other political trade off?? NZfirst done very well so far.

    It peeves me no end the NZRB corporate bureaucracy and there is stupid money lost there but as much as you will no doubt disagree, I think John Allen did put losses on the forecast before they happened, with a plan to lift the financial nose pretty much about right now. Instead of being patient a bit longer and sticking to the plan, and then deciding once we really know if it's worked as planned, we are jumping the gun just before payday and a nasty little bait-and-switch is going on, and we're all going to get stiffed instead, and racing will end up with no choice next time around. 

    Too much wagered on a dark horse with this report he needs to hear from the provinces where our tracks and clubs actually are that he's talking about closing down, because that's where the heart of racing is, not Melboune or Petone

    No point writing a letter here send it to Winston and National now not later

  6. Whoever it was seemed to just rile Winston up. It was like he was being challenged. FIrst an awkward moment of silence and then he responded saying he established GAP which leans towards pets. That will be what he takes away from his announcement, a representative of the greyhound code got under his skin and asked a ridiculous question when the industry is at a significant crossroads.

    I wasn't there but I would have asked about whether or not we can have one turn tracks at each new venue. The timing is good.

  7. 12 minutes ago, JETSUN said:

    phew, we don't need to worry Hound Fan. advisory posted late today on the NZGRA website, unsigned under the heading "NZGRA welcomes Messara report, "We would like to address one piece of information that appears on pg.73 of the report, that “Greyhound racing is proposing to reduce their number of venues from 7 to 3 after 10 years.”   We believe that Mr Messara may have been referencing discussions and industry submissions that took place as part of the Future Venue Plan process that looked at a variety of possible futures.  We can however clarify that GRNZ does not have a plan to reduce the number of greyhound venues from 7 to 3".

    Obviously Messara was wrong or misinformed.

     

    Guess it came out of nowhere

  8. Doubling stakes by handing over the till keys. Almost sounds too good to be true.

    But what if it doesn't pay when outsourced? Then what?
    What if we become the fat that later gets trimmed in order to keep those over the ditch going. Like that bit of a lizards tail that falls off if they ever get caught, to become a life-saving, sacrificial distraction..

    We'd be a little fish in a big pond with the Aussies and there's no going back to the old pond that was fine just had too many predators at one end

    Better the devil you know.
    End of the battlers

  9. There was a time not long ago when we needed the the big guys to keep the wheels going round and to build us up to a financially sustainable industry. Now with the attention of the activists and the impetus on rehoming it's almost like we need them gone just as badly.

    There will be tough times ahead and some fiercely difficult decisions to be made by the board and Petone seatwarmers.