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    Rules For Some got a reaction from My Two Cents in How   
    Sure not every dog will hit that target, but most should these days. Especially middle distance dogs. You can make 20-25k a season with an avg c1/2 520m dog these days. It isnt hard
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from My Two Cents in How   
    Because the trainers are also making money out of the results of the dogs whereas doggy day cares solely rely on that income.
    Any trainer who argues owners must pay are obviously not very good trainers. 
    I survived 25 yrs on 50/50 deals and did not expect my owners to cover any of the costs. 
    Caring for a greyhound should only cost about 16 dollars a day. I stated previously that for a person to make a profit on a 50/50 deal, the dog would have to make 12k a year.
    Devide that by 2 for 6k a year. Devide 6k by 52 and you get roughly $115 a week and than you devide that by 7 and you get about $16 a day. Its far easier to make this kind of money than it was 10 yrs ago
    I for one would never send you a dog if you act like that with all of your owners!
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from hedley in Jumping ship   
    First the welfare officer (who did nothing in her tenure), than gavin whiterod, now the second ceo in under a year (and played a role in where we are at now at board level) leaving. Geez way to go.
    They put the industry in a bad position with the lack of action in regards to the live baiting scandal than jump ship when its coming to a head. Absolutley disgraceful imo.
     
    https://www.grnz.co.nz/News.aspx?NewsID=3164
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from lad27 in An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.   
    Even when warned off, he gets special treatment. What a fucken joke. They have shown time and time again that they are out of their depth. If things dont change, the industry in NZ will be gone
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from lad27 in An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.   
    Even when warned off, he gets special treatment. What a fucken joke. They have shown time and time again that they are out of their depth. If things dont change, the industry in NZ will be gone
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from Emotive in An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.   
    The rules were changed this year it seems because of that case.

    76.1 No Licenced Person may train, or keep (unless retired as a pet) any Greyhounds at any property or premises of a person who has been Disqualified, Warned Off, Suspended or declared to be a Defaulter, during that person’s period of disqualification, warning off, suspension or default.
    76.2 No person who has been Disqualified, Warned Off, Suspended, or declared to be a Defaulter, shall be permitted during the period of disqualification, warning off, suspension or default, to transfer ownership or any training responsibilities for any Greyhound, to any other person without the written consent of the Board.
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from My Two Cents in An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.   
    Heard Cole was not allowed on course today. 
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from Emotive in Lochinvar Flash   
    How was this dog not stood down today? Never realized cramping meant a dog turns its head and mares the other dog
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from Emotive in Lochinvar Flash   
    How was this dog not stood down today? Never realized cramping meant a dog turns its head and mares the other dog
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from GOM in Bago Bye Bye   
    The good ones made him look like he was a struggling to run out the distance a bit last night. Although not getting on the bunny would have made it hard for the dog. Tornado tears ran blitzing sectionals and the time shows that, 41.35 is out of this world at wenty. You have a great distance dog if it breaks 42.00
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from MiniJax in Brendan Cole   
    I see charges were filed today by the SPCA against him. Now my question is why has he and his family been allowed to continue to race during the investigation? There are no excuses as we have seen grnz can make and change rules whenever they want to stop people they dislike. Bloody disgraceful
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from Emotive in Brendan Cole   
    Yes, it is fair. Most of the trainers who were caught in Aus were well known for it. Even if they are deemed "innocent" by common law, that doesn't make them innocent.
    The biggest problem with alot of the Australian cases was that the photos were not allowed in court as they were obtained illegally on private property. A few others, like the trainer let of recently, were also only implicated through hearsay.
    These photos were technically obtained legally as the camera was allowed on the neighbors property which is a huge difference.
    Also, under grnz rules of racing, they can warn off/suspend/kick out anyone the board deems unfit, so grnz statements that they can't do anything are a crock of shit.
    I know of another person who has made it well known that his license was not renewed based on false allegations that were proven false by the JCA
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from Emotive in Brendan Cole   
    Yes, it is fair. Most of the trainers who were caught in Aus were well known for it. Even if they are deemed "innocent" by common law, that doesn't make them innocent.
    The biggest problem with alot of the Australian cases was that the photos were not allowed in court as they were obtained illegally on private property. A few others, like the trainer let of recently, were also only implicated through hearsay.
    These photos were technically obtained legally as the camera was allowed on the neighbors property which is a huge difference.
    Also, under grnz rules of racing, they can warn off/suspend/kick out anyone the board deems unfit, so grnz statements that they can't do anything are a crock of shit.
    I know of another person who has made it well known that his license was not renewed based on false allegations that were proven false by the JCA
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from GOM in a good read   
    They left it far too late. Even if coles licenses were suspended and the suspension got overulled by the jca/legal system, it'd look alot better than it does currently
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    Rules For Some reacted to Betting man in Open Letter To Craig Rendle   
    Well put Emotive,  I am prepared to give Rendle the benefit of the doubt as far as his knowledge of the activities at his trainers property goes - I for one as an owner have no idea at all of the goings on at my trainers property (though I have never had reason to question their integrity)
    I can respect his initial loyalty - obviously they would have vehemently denied any wrong doing - however...and it’s a big However!  Surely blind Eddie can see the enormity of evidence and begin questioning his beliefs.
    Perhaps even a “I am withholding judgement until proven guilty, if it is true I will be terribly disappointed and remove all my dogs immediately “ response would have been easier to swallow than “Everyone is just jealous”
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from GOM in a good read   
    They left it far too late. Even if coles licenses were suspended and the suspension got overulled by the jca/legal system, it'd look alot better than it does currently
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from GOM in a good read   
    They left it far too late. Even if coles licenses were suspended and the suspension got overulled by the jca/legal system, it'd look alot better than it does currently
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from GOM in a good read   
    They left it far too late. Even if coles licenses were suspended and the suspension got overulled by the jca/legal system, it'd look alot better than it does currently
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    Rules For Some reacted to Emotive in Brendan Cole   
    What I find strange is that was your first post since you joined in 2015. The beliefs of old are just that. The practice is outlawed and was banned long before you joined this forum. Only a complete idiot or money hungry piece of crap would even think of continuing such an abhorrent and unnecessary practice. Widespread is a big claim.
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from MiniJax in Brendan Cole   
    I see charges were filed today by the SPCA against him. Now my question is why has he and his family been allowed to continue to race during the investigation? There are no excuses as we have seen grnz can make and change rules whenever they want to stop people they dislike. Bloody disgraceful
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    Rules For Some reacted to My Two Cents in Class Records at Addington over 520m   
    I’m picking there’s a typo with the time you stated, 29.83 maybe? 20.83 over 520 would see the lure burst into a ball of flames halfway down the back straight!
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    Rules For Some reacted to Jape in Class Records at Addington over 520m   
    When Winsome Ashley set the C3 520m record at Addington on 30.11.07 she stopped the clock at 20.83 which was also a track record.
    A February 2006 whelping by Hallucinate out of Winsome Dollars she was owned by the Pave The Way syndicate and trained by Jean and Dave Fahey.
    In that remarkable 2007/2008 season Winsome Ashley won 4 Group 1 races and set 3 new track records.
    Also remarkable was the fact that this outstanding bitch was not Greyhound Of The Year.  The points system in vogue meant that this honour went to the sprinter Pizza Girl.
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    Rules For Some reacted to GOM in Class Records at Addington over 520m   
    How bad is that? unbelievable  , How did that system stay in place for so long/
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from yorky in Manila bala   
    Geez this dog has been dissapointing.
    Had run some fast times in Australia and Rosanowski and Fenemor were talking about him being a group 1 dog. Looks like he can't even run 318 let alone 375 or 457.
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    Rules For Some got a reaction from MiniJax in Auckland cup   
    Was a good win by just one smile. Deserved a big race win. 
    For the cup:
    Blazin Carter, penny mack, avenger bale