Rules For Some

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    How

    The north lacks alot of depth, especially as one big trainer is gone, Clark has cut down his numbers, and walsh doesnt have the same numbers she once did either. Craiks are the only trainers still racing a large group of dogs and the other trainers listed have come into fill the gap. Id say the best northern trainers personally would be walsh, craiks, ferguson, udy/cottam and 5th probably goes to steeles. Especially as without udy/cottam, steeles and walsh, middle distance racing would be dead in the north. As for 50/50 dogs needing to make 25k, thats pretty far fetched odds when you break down what everything is worth per day per dog. If you are wanting to make a substantial profit out of your owners, than id hope you arent getting that much of the prize money.
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    How

    Sure not every dog will hit that target, but most should these days. Especially middle distance dogs. You can make 20-25k a season with an avg c1/2 520m dog these days. It isnt hard
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    How

    Because the trainers are also making money out of the results of the dogs whereas doggy day cares solely rely on that income. Any trainer who argues owners must pay are obviously not very good trainers. I survived 25 yrs on 50/50 deals and did not expect my owners to cover any of the costs. Caring for a greyhound should only cost about 16 dollars a day. I stated previously that for a person to make a profit on a 50/50 deal, the dog would have to make 12k a year. Devide that by 2 for 6k a year. Devide 6k by 52 and you get roughly $115 a week and than you devide that by 7 and you get about $16 a day. Its far easier to make this kind of money than it was 10 yrs ago I for one would never send you a dog if you act like that with all of your owners!
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    How

    Depends on the trainer. I always worked in 50/50 deals myself. The dog has to make 10-12k per year to cover all costs. So maths should dictate about a $230 fee. Obviously your dog wont need to make that if the owner is paying bills aswell Imports can vary alot aswell depending on the seller. Ive seen a few group one winners come over for descent prices of 10-25k. Others not so much. A descent starting point is 8 or 9 k and 10-12k landed (with new fees). 8 or 9 k will buy you a top grade sprinter or a descent c4/5 dog. Although like i said, it totally depends on the seller. Plus, i wouldnt trust the majority of syndicators in NZ. Ive seen several owners say they spent more money on dogs than i know was spent on that dog for a fact so make sure you arent getting ripped off in that department
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    Index of Starters at Wanganui

    The CD has always been weaker. Outside of his top 5 or 6 dogs, he really has nothing special going around.
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    Jumping ship

    First the welfare officer (who did nothing in her tenure), than gavin whiterod, now the second ceo in under a year (and played a role in where we are at now at board level) leaving. Geez way to go. They put the industry in a bad position with the lack of action in regards to the live baiting scandal than jump ship when its coming to a head. Absolutley disgraceful imo. https://www.grnz.co.nz/News.aspx?NewsID=3164
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    Jumping ship

    First the welfare officer (who did nothing in her tenure), than gavin whiterod, now the second ceo in under a year (and played a role in where we are at now at board level) leaving. Geez way to go. They put the industry in a bad position with the live baiting scandal than jump ship when its coming to a head. Absolutley disgraceful imo https://www.grnz.co.nz/News.aspx?NewsID=3164
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    Brendan Cole

    I see charges were filed today by the SPCA against him. Now my question is why has he and his family been allowed to continue to race during the investigation? There are no excuses as we have seen grnz can make and change rules whenever they want to stop people they dislike. Bloody disgraceful
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    An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.

    Even when warned off, he gets special treatment. What a fucken joke. They have shown time and time again that they are out of their depth. If things dont change, the industry in NZ will be gone
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    An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.

    It would be very easy to have Lisa and Brendan's name taken of the property ownership and put it under one of their children's name
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    An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.

    The rules were changed this year it seems because of that case. 76.1 No Licenced Person may train, or keep (unless retired as a pet) any Greyhounds at any property or premises of a person who has been Disqualified, Warned Off, Suspended or declared to be a Defaulter, during that person’s period of disqualification, warning off, suspension or default. 76.2 No person who has been Disqualified, Warned Off, Suspended, or declared to be a Defaulter, shall be permitted during the period of disqualification, warning off, suspension or default, to transfer ownership or any training responsibilities for any Greyhound, to any other person without the written consent of the Board.
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    An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.

    They try and say that. But warning off's are only applicable at the tracks, not the properties where dogs are trained. Rules are very clear
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    An Open Letter To Mauro, Sean and the Board.

    Heard Cole was not allowed on course today.
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    Lochinvar Flash

    How was this dog not stood down today? Never realized cramping meant a dog turns its head and mares the other dog
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    Bago Bye Bye

    The good ones made him look like he was a struggling to run out the distance a bit last night. Although not getting on the bunny would have made it hard for the dog. Tornado tears ran blitzing sectionals and the time shows that, 41.35 is out of this world at wenty. You have a great distance dog if it breaks 42.00
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    Brendan Cole

    I should add that photos taken illegally in NZ have been accepted in the court of law in the past unlike Australia. There was an incident where a farmer had illegal photos taken of animal cruelty and they were accepted in the courts. So there is some case law in NZ that supports that these photos will not be dismissed from court
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    Brendan Cole

    Yes, it is fair. Most of the trainers who were caught in Aus were well known for it. Even if they are deemed "innocent" by common law, that doesn't make them innocent. The biggest problem with alot of the Australian cases was that the photos were not allowed in court as they were obtained illegally on private property. A few others, like the trainer let of recently, were also only implicated through hearsay. These photos were technically obtained legally as the camera was allowed on the neighbors property which is a huge difference. Also, under grnz rules of racing, they can warn off/suspend/kick out anyone the board deems unfit, so grnz statements that they can't do anything are a crock of shit. I know of another person who has made it well known that his license was not renewed based on false allegations that were proven false by the JCA
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    Brendan Cole

    this is the statement made might I add https://www.grnz.co.nz/News.aspx?NewsID=3106
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    Brendan Cole

    What a lie by those in charge at GRNZ. All you need to do is ring the Palmerston North District court and ask about Brendan Coles case. You will be given the person charged, the charges and the date the charges are heard (May 7th). Shame on you GRNZ! What a bunch of Fuckwits. This Mario Barsi needs a wake up call, hes destroying this industry
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    a good read

    They left it far too late. Even if coles licenses were suspended and the suspension got overulled by the jca/legal system, it'd look alot better than it does currently
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    Brendan Cole

    There was the incident back in 2012 where the Mann's claimed they were given permission to "catch" rabbits by the Waikato president during the late hrs of the night at the track. This is just one more incident that was covered up. Id hope the practice is not widespread in NZ, but I find it hard to believe.
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    Brendan Cole

    There are plenty of examples of it occurring in the past, although the same kennel has been caught up in it several times. If anyone else is caught doing this out dated practice, they to should be punished. It no longer matters what anyones opinion is on the Matter, live baiting is illegal by law and live and dead baiting is illegal under the grnz rules.
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    Class Records at Addington over 520m

    I have seen a few dogs trial that in my time, although no one has really been able to do it race day. Plus I doubt the Auckland track will ever be that fast again I do recall back in the early 2000 when the track first opened, there were a few dogs that ran 29.85-29.90, however the times were disregarded due to the staff screwing up the distance # of the track (I don't think the distance ever changed, just the # that was given due to wrong measurements). I do believe Auckland had electrical timing aswell. Not taking anything away from winsome Ashley of course. She did win the Auckland cup by 7L
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    Manila bala

    Geez this dog has been dissapointing. Had run some fast times in Australia and Rosanowski and Fenemor were talking about him being a group 1 dog. Looks like he can't even run 318 let alone 375 or 457.
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    Auckland cup

    The pools looked very poor. 3 minutes from the Auckland Cup, there was only 2k in the win and place pool.