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It's up to club but this is a racing discussion forum that's all. So someone posts minimum stakes going to be 100k,  taxpayers on here who have seen their hard earned thrown into the begging bowl of racing are naturally  interested how this magic trick is performed . Get with the programme , racing  put out the begging bowl  , crumbs were thrown in  by government , so it's any taxpayers right to question racing and discuss what we want .  Everyone involved in racing now and can poke nose in , is that not great !!! 

Delphinius a Frankel half brother to Kingman and Tango Fire at Stud in Pakistan. 
Straight  Shooter has already had a winner in Cyprus .
Cunco his first ever winner is at  Stud in Chile so his genes are spread far and wide .

Four winners for Frankel yesterday all at top tracks  , Newmarket , Newbury , Leopardstown and Longchamp ,
His brother Noble Mission chipped in with one as well, Bated Breath , Beat Hollow and Kingman also got on the board for Juddmonte bred stallions .
Even horse called Denounce who I think was at Warren Place but just average got one home the other day .
Those fillies do look cheap .

Frankel Arabia Queen winner in first last  night , 20 to 1 . Beautifully bred , Dam beat Golden Horn in International at York .
Destinado made 30k guineas , to owner who has a horse with Tony Carroll . Good trainer of lower end horses , gets them to their level though and gets plenty wins . Dual purpose trainer so maybe juvenile hurdling awaits . Again I thought he would make more .

I am a council estate boy when it comes to confirmation etc Breeder bar the very basics  , but I love looking at racehorses though,  the smell , the noise , etc takes the stress out of life leaning by a paddock watching them go round pre race . Beautiful , been watching them for 40 years . My best go at it would be like humans , the middle distance upwards runners are slight and slim with lower muscle tone to give them the endurance , no big muscles burning energy ,bit like old Frank Bruno used to gas out in the ring with his ripping muscles burning the fuel too quick at times  ,the Euro breds slighted build so less burn in the muscles , the sprinters a ball of muscle . I have been racing Stateside a few times , the dirt bred sprinters are immense , just power pack ready to go boom from the gate burning the fuel in 6 furlongs , .In short wouldn't worry me if the horse was a bit slim in the sales overnight .
Watched that Grand Promande Saturday,  lovely horse , for a stayer on TV he gave a more muscled look about him .
As I said an amateur on confirmation , and breeding to be fair but very interested in it . 
Be interested to hear a non amateurs thoughts .
Looking forward to seeing how your pick goes in sales .

Worth  following Mega Heart on the dirt , ran a cracker stuck four  wide . It's rated to win now , profit made on the place . Loves the dirt .

Top lot today was LAAFY, a son of Noble Mission, who went for 105,000 guineas to Mark Campion racing.
He's been gelded (the horse, not Mark Campion) and will go jumping.
Closing statement from Tatts Chair Edmond Mahony:
“The Tattersalls July Sale has long been recognised as Europe’s premier midsummer sale and this week's impressive set of figures have yet again confirmed its status. Perhaps more importantly than figures alone, it has also been a sale with a real sense of business returning to something resembling normality. We cannot make meaningful comparisons with last year’s abbreviated and COVID - ravaged July Sale, but this year’s sale has produced a level of trade that compares very favourably with both the 2019 and 2018 renewals and crucially has yet again achieved a remarkable clearance rate in excess of 90%.  
“Even in a sale of genuinely vibrant trade from start to finish the penultimate session stood out with an extraordinary 100% clearance rate driven by strong domestic demand mixed with the sort of international participation which has been so encouraging considering the widespread travel restrictions which are still in place. Significant consignments from some of the world’s leading owner/breeders including Godolphin, Juddmonte Farms and Shadwell Estates have been as popular as ever and buyers from all over the world have continued to make full use of the Tattersalls live internet bidding platform as well as telephone bidding through our team on the ground." 

It's a no win for anyone, good on you for voicing your own opinion, wether anyone agrees or not, that's what I thought the forum is all about.

Shaun Phelan himself agrees the comments he made were totally inappropriate  on National TV , so he is at odds with those on here that say they were fine .
Again , iam no woke warrior at all , I enjoy having the piss taken out of me , I enjoy taking the piss . But my point has always been in 2021 that cannot be said on National TV and not expect to get a sanction , all sports are the same , look at the crazy overreaction to that England cricketer the other week, then they tried to slur other guys inc a NZ cricketer  for a  tweet he made years back that were very mild imho   .
I hear Poms this and that  loads , it's great , it's funny , and I really don't give a crap what is said to me and 99 per cent  time it's a laugh and bit of back  and forth with great mates  , the other 1 per cent  is even funnier , nothing funnier than people getting wound up , my phone will melt with txts if Italy win on Monday morning taking piss put of England but  it it's not about individuals and my point is I feel racing was backed into a corner . Imagine it came out on news and they had ignored it , the action they took and Shaun's mature reation has imho taken the wind out the sails of the " woke warriors " .
I actually reckon Shaun comes out of this looking like a thoroughly decent individual , we all make on mistakes for gods sake  , the authorities had to act IMHO and hes copped it with grace , better that than they ignore it and then it's on news they swept it under carpet.  
Likewise TN , always enjoy your posts. 
 
 
 
 

Shaun Phelan himself agrees the comments he made were totally inappropriate  on National TV , so he is at odds with those on here that say they were fine .
Again , iam no woke warrior at all , I enjoy having the piss taken out of me , I enjoy taking the piss . But my point has always been in 2021 that cannot be said on National TV and not expect to get a sanction , all sports are the same , look at the crazy overreaction to that England cricketer the other week, then they tried to slur other guys inc a NZ cricketer  for a  tweet he made years back that were very mild imho   .
I hear Poms this and that  loads , it's great , it's funny , and I really don't give a crap what is said to me and 99 per cent  time it's a laugh and bit of back  and forth with great mates  , the other 1 per cent  is even funnier , nothing funnier than people getting wound up , my phone will melt with txts if Italy win on Monday morning taking piss put of England but  it it's not about individuals and my point is I feel racing was backed into a corner . Imagine it came out on news and they had ignored it , the action they took and Shaun's mature reation has imho taken the wind out the sails of the " woke warriors " .
I actually reckon Shaun comes out of this looking like a thoroughly decent individual , we all make on mistakes for gods sake  , the authorities had to act IMHO and hes copped it with grace , better that than they ignore it and then it's on news they swept it under carpet.  
Likewise TN , always enjoy your posts. 
 
 
 
 

Okay okay you guys win , I tap out  . I am off to chain myself to the gates of some capitalist corporate greed company in my Citizen Smith uniform with my copies of socialist worker .

Four winners for Frankel yesterday all at top tracks  , Newmarket , Newbury , Leopardstown and Longchamp ,
His brother Noble Mission chipped in with one as well, Bated Breath , Beat Hollow and Kingman also got on the board for Juddmonte bred stallions .
Even horse called Denounce who I think was at Warren Place but just average got one home the other day .
Those fillies do look cheap .

I noticed a couple of nicely bred unraced Frankel fillies from the Juddmonte draft sold on Day 2 to Rabbah Bloodstock for 40k and 30k ---good buying, even if they bought for breeding. (lots 529 and 5300

What is the opinion of BAAEED over there Stodge ? Has looked very good in his three wins so far..never been tested in any of them.
 

Frankel Arabia Queen winner in first last  night , 20 to 1 . Beautifully bred , Dam beat Golden Horn in International at York .
Destinado made 30k guineas , to owner who has a horse with Tony Carroll . Good trainer of lower end horses , gets them to their level though and gets plenty wins . Dual purpose trainer so maybe juvenile hurdling awaits . Again I thought he would make more .

Friday's final declarations are through.
13 go in the Falmouth over 1600m for the fillies and mares. This is a bigger field than usual and is some indication the hierarchy among the 3-y-o filly milers is far from clear. Eight 3-y-os take on five older horses.
Starting with the former, we have the Coronation Stakes winner ALCOHOL FREE, the English 1000 Guineas winner MOTHER EARTH and the Irish 1000 Guineas winner EMPRESS JOSEPHINE. It's unusual to see three Group 1 winners in the field and they've all been beaten as well in Group 1 company. SNOW LANTERN chased home ALCOHOL FREE at Ascot but was herself well held in third behind PRIMO BACIO in the Middleton at York. It's a tenuous form line and she has it to find on the ratings but plenty of the so-called experts fancy  PRIMO BACIO.
The main form line for the older fillies is the Group 2 Duke of Cambridge at Ascot which INDIE ANGEL won well beating LADY BOWTHORPE and QUEEN POWER. All three are closely matched on that but they have to give weight to Group 1 fillies and I just struggle with that for all the 3-y-os have yet to really convince.
The one that interests me at a bigger price is SAFFRON BEACH - she was second to MOTHER EARTH at Newmarket and was clearly unsuited by the slow ground at Epsom in the Oaks. Back on a quick surface, she could be running on late and at 14s I've had a small investment. The thing is, the young fillies can improve at a rate of knots and it may well be one of them will suddenly find 7-10 lbs and scamper clear. It's going to be a fascinating race to watch and, I'd argue, more interesting than the big sprint on Saturday.
9 go in the Duchess of Cambridge for the juvenile fillies over 1200m. The Albany form gets a good going-over with the first three home, SANDRINE, HELLO YOU and OSCULA all running along with unplaced FLOTUS. It was heavy at Ascot but it's good to firm currently at Newmarket so that's a huge variable. The problem is none of them have any fast turf form - SANDRINE and HELLO YOU won their maidens on the artificial surfaces. OSCULA won on good ground at Epsom but she's had plenty of racing and looks vulnerable to the lesser experienced types.
I don't like these races from a punting viewpoint - too many known unknowns or is it unknown knowns? 
14 are left in Sunday's Jean Prat at Deauville over 1400m - the likely favourite is the Poulains second COLOSSEO, whose form behind ST MARK'S BASILICA got a real boost last weekend.

Shaun Phelan himself agrees the comments he made were totally inappropriate  on National TV , so he is at odds with those on here that say they were fine .
Again , iam no woke warrior at all , I enjoy having the piss taken out of me , I enjoy taking the piss . But my point has always been in 2021 that cannot be said on National TV and not expect to get a sanction , all sports are the same , look at the crazy overreaction to that England cricketer the other week, then they tried to slur other guys inc a NZ cricketer  for a  tweet he made years back that were very mild imho   .
I hear Poms this and that  loads , it's great , it's funny , and I really don't give a crap what is said to me and 99 per cent  time it's a laugh and bit of back  and forth with great mates  , the other 1 per cent  is even funnier , nothing funnier than people getting wound up , my phone will melt with txts if Italy win on Monday morning taking piss put of England but  it it's not about individuals and my point is I feel racing was backed into a corner . Imagine it came out on news and they had ignored it , the action they took and Shaun's mature reation has imho taken the wind out the sails of the " woke warriors " .
I actually reckon Shaun comes out of this looking like a thoroughly decent individual , we all make on mistakes for gods sake  , the authorities had to act IMHO and hes copped it with grace , better that than they ignore it and then it's on news they swept it under carpet.  
Likewise TN , always enjoy your posts. 
 
 
 
 

Just keep the laser pens in the pocket this time RR…..they are beginning to look desperate……and still couldn’t beat Scotland…….😆
 

Shaun Phelan himself agrees the comments he made were totally inappropriate  on National TV , so he is at odds with those on here that say they were fine .
Again , iam no woke warrior at all , I enjoy having the piss taken out of me , I enjoy taking the piss . But my point has always been in 2021 that cannot be said on National TV and not expect to get a sanction , all sports are the same , look at the crazy overreaction to that England cricketer the other week, then they tried to slur other guys inc a NZ cricketer  for a  tweet he made years back that were very mild imho   .
I hear Poms this and that  loads , it's great , it's funny , and I really don't give a crap what is said to me and 99 per cent  time it's a laugh and bit of back  and forth with great mates  , the other 1 per cent  is even funnier , nothing funnier than people getting wound up , my phone will melt with txts if Italy win on Monday morning taking piss put of England but  it it's not about individuals and my point is I feel racing was backed into a corner . Imagine it came out on news and they had ignored it , the action they took and Shaun's mature reation has imho taken the wind out the sails of the " woke warriors " .
I actually reckon Shaun comes out of this looking like a thoroughly decent individual , we all make on mistakes for gods sake  , the authorities had to act IMHO and hes copped it with grace , better that than they ignore it and then it's on news they swept it under carpet.  
Likewise TN , always enjoy your posts. 
 
 
 
 

Iam going to put my flairs on and get a perm, and watch Starskey and Hutch , this thread is getting retro . FFS you cannot say that shit on national TV , as a licence holder and not expect a fine . There no PC about it , it's common decency . At least he's copped it on chin by looks of it , he's not criminal number 1 , just a wally .
Right iam  off to pub to buy a 50 cent jug , and a 3 buck roast in my big holden then watching snooker on my black and white TV .
 

Did he just say the colour Black , or was other words in a sentence around it  , like I think this sentence would be fine " Black Caviar was a good racehorse "  or maybe " the chequered flag was black and white " . 
Do you know of anyone saying that Black cannot be used in a sentence anymore . I've never seen that but I'd like to have a read up because that person would be crazy , I've seen people get upset at racial slurs though.  
You do understand this was on National TV .

I am at a loss that people cannot see a racial slur on one section of the  population on the national racing channel by a licence holder and the term black as a colour as different , you do know black is a colour and it's fine  , some are saying change the names in stud book on here !!!  What a load of bollocks !!  Each to there own , happy punting  . 
This really is a twilight industry here . 

I've read what the comment was , 800 bucks pretty light , in other sports he would be on his arse banned for a decent length , don't know the guy but he needs to up his game .

Love Leopardstown and one of best days I've been on track was seeing Istabraq waltz home in the Irish Champion . , the roar and emotion of the crowd was great,  and the old boy is still alive and kicking at Martinstown Stud .
The funeral parlour in the rear of the pub in one small town I popped into once time  didn't thrill me, but the Irish fry ups beat the English hands down .
 

As Pogo would say "best post ever". Welcome back from Rarotonga P4P. Poms not lazy Red Rum? Then why in my past visits to old blighty with friends were the tradies amongst my team in such hot demand ? And I even found the hygiene issue in accommodation a source of frustration--fancy having to pay the landlady 25P for a bath plug every time you wanted to take a bath or needing funds for the califont! Jokes such as "Where does a Pom hide his money?--under the soap" had a basis in truth.