CommonSensical

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    CommonSensical reacted to Right first time in Losers Get Laid - Week 5 entries   
    I'll go today with :-
    Flemington - R4 - 8 - Fidelia
    Thank you, Toblerone.
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    CommonSensical reacted to Tim Carter in Weigh In - Shaune Ritchie   
    I never caught the Weigh In programme and I probably should not comment as no doubt I am going to piss a few people off. However I think there are a few things that are never mentioned regarding the state of the industry. All I hear is that the stakes are too low and it is driving owners out of the game. That is true but not the entire story
    . Owners are getting stuffed up the chutney left right and centre ( to quote my good mate Leo!) Not all of it from the powers that be. Some of these so called" top trainers" are charging anywhere from 85/day to 100/day, clipping their tickets on chiropractor charges, jump out fees, administration charges, vitamin charges, gear charges, and whatever they can think of. They cry poverty  but still manage to take a holiday to Hawaii, Fiji , world cruise or whatever once a year. They drive an Audi or other luxury car a, have a big TAB punting account etc. As they read this they know who they are. They get away with it by forming syndicates . Some of the Cambridge Trainers have between 55 and and 140 horses in their stables so don't let me hear them crying poverty at the rates they are charging! Throw in some of the vets, and farriers that charge like wounded bulls and you have an industry that is in shit street not all of it at the feet our administrators.
    In saying that NZTR still have a lot to answer for. Like them or loathe them,  Race Course Inspectors, J  McKenzie, B McKenzie and the the like seemed to police the industry  without all the cost that is now happening.  NZTR  have around 30 personal policing the industry (and a policy of dob your mates in) . NZTR programme trials at Ruakaka or Avondale  so an owner with a horse in Cambridge is up for between 350 and 500 in transport costs alone. The big stables don't care as they have a syndicate horse or big money owner.  It appears that people are employed at NZTR in vital positions but have no real empathy at what it is really like out here. They have no idea of the costs involved when they do the programmes.
    Meanwhile there are a lot of trainers trying to keep owners in the game by charging affordable training fees and no hidden charges so big ups to them!
     
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    CommonSensical reacted to Phillipe in Ellerslie - Great Northern Day   
    I’m not sure that argument has merit.
    The upcoming RWC will prove a point. Humans are creatures that like to congregate with other similar humans. There will be the homebodies but there will be large numbers who will attend a pub to watch each match. Essentially enjoying a togetherness, for want of a better word.
    Racing is the same, without a place to gather, humans will drift to another place. The fact that the numbers are already dropping indicate that there are no new people being drawn to racing. At least not on a regular basis.
    New young people have as much interest in watching trackside as watching the grass grow, they only want the live interactive event, a few times a year. Not enough to maintain the infrastructure or horse base we presently have.
    Racing has had its day in NZ, in its current format. The radical change needed to maintain the current base of interested people, is not something that the present management would ever try as they lack the mandate and fortitude.
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    CommonSensical reacted to Phillipe in Ellerslie - Great Northern Day   
    Did anyone else turn up???
    I go past the place each day, along with 50,000 other cars and there is not even a sign up that tells me the races will be on this weekend.
    I do see an overgrown hedge/bush which could be replaced with a prominent sign, but that would take effort and thought. There is a moss ridden sign buried in the bush that can only be read with some form of contortion of the body and I’m unsure if it is ever updated.
    Racing lives in the old world, those that know the races are on, will continue to turn up... until they die and the attendance will drop. Which it is..
    It’s clear that racing is its own problem. Stop blaming the world and blame yourselves.
     
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from Black Kirrama in Losers Get Laid 2019 (14th edition). Rules and Week 1 selection thread.   
    Chelmsford STakes  Randwick   No. 1 Avilius
     
    Thanks Again
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from scooby3051 in RESULT THREAD : WINTER RACING PAY IT FORWARD WITH THANKS : PAIR CHALLENGE : SATURDAY 3 AUGUST   
    Thank You very much Chestnut Great to see the support you are getting , My betting has been a bit ordinary but I will be lining up again next week .
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    CommonSensical reacted to Chestnut in RESULT THREAD : WINTER RACING PAY IT FORWARD WITH THANKS : PAIR CHALLENGE : SATURDAY 3 AUGUST   
    Thanks all for joining in the fun today     I will do a recheck and a check on my re .. and update any indiscretions  
    Next week we will be returning to the Trio Comp where I will place you randomly in a Trio as you post and you will compete against other Trios on the Saturday.
    Have a happy rest of the weekend and a beaut week ahead
    Cheerio for now and hopefully see you all back next week... same place, same channel !
     
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    CommonSensical reacted to scooby3051 in RESULT THREAD : WINTER RACING PAY IT FORWARD WITH THANKS : PAIR CHALLENGE : SATURDAY 3 AUGUST   
    Thanks Chestnut(Maria) great job fun as ever...well to the winners...great to see so many continue to enter...cheers.
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    CommonSensical reacted to uneasy in 0amaru Abandoned   
    Why Wingatui less than 20 horses south of Oamaru, Bulk of horses Timaru and north of.
    I would imagine Tyler at Oamaru, Blair Eadie at Waimate
    should go to Ashburton or upgrade Timaru to feature day with rejigged programme IMO
    Can't look back prefer to be positive and make sure  we still have feature meeting
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from Chestnut in ENTRY THREAD : MID-WINTER AUSTRALASIAN RACING TIPPING TRIO COMP : SATURDAY 13 JULY : ALL WELCOME !   
    Comp R1 : Ruakaka R3 1.39pm  3-7bb 
    Comp R2 : Rosehill R2 2.05pm 2-3
    Comp R3 : Caulfield R4 2.55pm 1-7
    Comp R4 : Ruakaka R6 3.24pm 3-5
    Comp R5 : Rosehill R5 3.50pm 1-3
    Comp R6 : Caulfield R6 4.10pm 1-3
    Comp R7 : Rosehill R7 5.10pm 3-5 bb
    Comp R8 : Caulfield R8 5.30pm 3-9
    Comp R9 : Gawler R7 6.21pm 4-7
    Comp R10 : Gawler R8 7.00pm  2-4
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    CommonSensical reacted to 00000000000000000000000000 in Wanganui Track ????   
    https://loveracing.nz/raceinfo/47455/meeting-overview.aspx
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    CommonSensical reacted to rdytdy in Wanganui Track ????   
    Raln forecast Wednesday and Thursday.  
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    CommonSensical reacted to 47South in Wanganui Track ????   
    Very little rain over the passed week. Track drying out. With no more rain I'm guessing 8 with a holding track ???? 
     
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from Chestnut in ENTRY THREAD : AUSTRALASIAN RACING THREE'S COMPANY COMP : SATURDAY 29 JUNE : ALL WELCOME ! :)   
    SCRATCHING REPLACEMENT : Comp R2 number 2 is a scratching could you please replace with No 3
    Thank You
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from Huey in Time to end Jumps in the South?   
    I remember at Woodville for years there were a few good jumps riders and ample  track riders  that did a lot of the trackwork riding as well as schooling , but they have all left the industry now because of the same problem , Paid peanut's treated like slaves , promised race day jumps  rides for schooling horses repeatedly and then trainers giving race day rides to higher profile jockeys and we get the situation we are in now and wonder where the real problems lie
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from Huey in Time to end Jumps in the South?   
    I remember at Woodville for years there were a few good jumps riders and ample  track riders  that did a lot of the trackwork riding as well as schooling , but they have all left the industry now because of the same problem , Paid peanut's treated like slaves , promised race day jumps  rides for schooling horses repeatedly and then trainers giving race day rides to higher profile jockeys and we get the situation we are in now and wonder where the real problems lie
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from Huey in Time to end Jumps in the South?   
    I remember at Woodville for years there were a few good jumps riders and ample  track riders  that did a lot of the trackwork riding as well as schooling , but they have all left the industry now because of the same problem , Paid peanut's treated like slaves , promised race day jumps  rides for schooling horses repeatedly and then trainers giving race day rides to higher profile jockeys and we get the situation we are in now and wonder where the real problems lie
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from Huey in Time to end Jumps in the South?   
    I remember at Woodville for years there were a few good jumps riders and ample  track riders  that did a lot of the trackwork riding as well as schooling , but they have all left the industry now because of the same problem , Paid peanut's treated like slaves , promised race day jumps  rides for schooling horses repeatedly and then trainers giving race day rides to higher profile jockeys and we get the situation we are in now and wonder where the real problems lie
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    CommonSensical reacted to Pam Robson in waimate   
    I don't think we have too many ' big picture thinkers ' .....
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    CommonSensical reacted to We're Doomed in waimate   
    I just had a look at the final 400s from Waimate. People and cars lined up the entire length of the straight, and well past the finish post as well. And from the first race until the last race. I bet Trentham and Riccarton would love to see a crowd like that. I wonder what the official attendance and turnover was.
    Does anyone know if a representative from the NZRB and NZTR attended the meeting and gave a small talk thanking them for their efforts over the years and reassuring them that them falling on their swords was for the greater good of the whole industry and the whole industry would be much better off without them?
    I am quite serious there, does a delegation of Racings "leadership" and big picture thinkers attend "final meetings" like that just to let the locals know people are thinking of them. Was Glenda there? Does she know where Waimate is? NZ's best shot-putter does come from Timaru so I imagine she does know where Waimate is.
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    CommonSensical got a reaction from We're Doomed in waimate   
    Haven't we been taking advice/employing Aussies for the last couple of decades  , That didn't seem to have been that successful ?  
    Some of these small clubs that are going to be closed have proven very successful at attracting some Very good sponsors that now I would say would also be lost to the Industry , I don't think the Suits actually realise the true loss to the industry in the closure of these smaller country clubs.