La Zip

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  1. As I said, a very common man, I feel for Mrs Berri, somehow I feel she left some time back.
  2. Being a despised Aussie, I'd know a little bit more re Denmans' than you P4P........not many train on, and many fold under the slightest pressure. Usually Woodlands (now Darley) get it right, they were fabulous before a certain Pom turned up and stuck his oar in......but my point is, look at the horses behind WN, look at the 2nd horse, if all goes right it finishes much closer and the margin not so flattering, the wash up though is the time, my 2yo's can run that any TUE morning for Gods sake, and as you've ridden you'd know, sometimes when you release the brakes there is not a lot more there, in fact their cruising speed is their optimum. Of course it's my opine, and I've tried to substantiate it, thats what good forums do, allow discourse and debate, without foul comments, let's hope we can continue like that......if only.
  3. But what if third is all he's got?......the time was terrible.
  4. OK let’s put this win into perspective. First up, it was a crap time...compared to,the R72 and the open sprint which went this horse goes 59.07 (wouldn’t win at Wytchyproof.... but then times don’t mean anything in NZ I’ve been told) ...the second horse misses the start, crucial over a 1000m, then gets caught 3wide but still runs on..who knows with a fair start? Mind you they were a poorly,educated bunch that raced today. The usual story race runs 5 minutes late, wouldn’t go to the barrier, wouldn’t load...yada yada yada. $5k in the NSW TAB win pool. Oh but wait, the winner is owned in HKG (he may keep him here for a little while longer..oh goody) so he goes to Karaka millions. More money leaving the country and no GST payable.
  5. I bet the trainers at W Farm who have Super Easy's will be over there looking for more, and the bloke from Perth with Peals and Prawns will be in that mix, they have enjoyed a fabulous run.
  6. Gotcha......lucky you aren't paying me by the hour.
  7. Your stars aligned? God help us all, none of you will answer a simple question, how did these 'drugs' get into the horses system? Did they eat their bedding, or lay on their bedding? did they rub their hides against contaminated posts? all you simply have to say is 'I don't know'....or I do know.......and come forth.......what I will disclose, as unlike you, my background is in law, being a legal secretary formerly working with a high profile lawyer very involved in an industry matter!......#seekingthetruth
  8. However the 'evidence' does not clarify how the 'drugs' or their metabolites entered the horses system, I've run this past many here in Oz, and everyone, most with more than 40/50 years experience with thoroughbreds have never witnessed horses eating contaminated straw/shavings/sawdust.......they also concur, none of their horses will lay on contaminated bedding, nor mine, however there are drugs of course with no odour, hence my question, the answer may well be a pineapple.
  9. Clearly you're mistaken Dr Molloy, if I knew more than the experts I wouldn't;t have asked the question. It is you as a learned vet that puts the science out there, mine was a genuine question.
  10. I'd be very interested to learn if the findings suggested/implied the horses digested said Pharma drugs or absorbed through skin via bedding, can you assist?
  11. Of course they do/are, we know that, it's not the problem it's how you deal with the problem.......that's why the racing authorities here are doing something positive, you struggle with stakes of 6k to the winner, in many races here 2k goes to animal welfare.....someone gave a damn BarryB.......your comments re reality ? really?
  12. Why can't the owners of Ken's horse sue CJC? A good barrister would have a field day would he/she not? their terms of lease to Ken did they state security was Ken's responsibly? if they did Ken is at fault, but nowhere in the JCA report did I read that......go for it Ken, however as for the piffle re horses eating contaminated bedding, what a load of cobblers, those of you that work with horses know full well they wont go near bedding with a urine smell.......I'm referring to other incidents here, mentioned in this report......shavings, straw etc, mine wont lay down in dirty bedding let alone eat it........and then there is the raceday stalls, and contaminated troughs.......what next?........Hans Christian Anderson.
  13. Reality is what you live Barry B, you don't vote Labour, but you got a Labour Gov......go figure.......if you look at the various racing jurisdictions here in Oz, you will find every race programmed has a welfare component attached, in VIC these amounts are substantial, as too, in QLD they are to begin with the welfare to bring into line with other states......welfare of the thoroughbred is paramount, the standardbred code used to be horrific, they have lifted their game. I hate live export, not the actual act as I eat meat, but the cruelty involved of weeks at sea in horrible heat, so fix that and the fools at the other end that kill the animal in the cruelest of fashion and live export becomes viable......will it happen?, these analogies are important as you don't seem to get it.......I deplore people that knowingly, knowingly send their horses to a poor life, or should I say end.....for their own monetary gain, upgrade the Range Rover, pay the private school fees , overseas holidays, bigger please don't throw these idiotic comparisons BarryB......we also have abattoirs here for feral camels, feral horses, and see, there are hundreds of thousands of these animals, and it's like ivory BarryB.....if we educated the end user in ASIA to not value ivory for their own sick ideology then the Rhino would not be endangered and/or the magical, mystical Elephants.......educate the idiots that value horse meat and same results.....but I stand by my posts, or the bubble you mention, I don't put my bank balance in front of my love and compassion for the horses I earned a living from, or not in that's an oxymoron...isn't it?
  14. RR, I owned a daughter of an Ayr Gold Cup winner...her mother, Brief Star, was Robert Sangster's first Group one this race holds a special place for me...but great example of how good programming can work for everyone...
  15. Lovely read RR....thank you.
  16. Chris, I think you're a pretty good trainer...but on this issue you are way too close to be objective ... Absolutely have to pay a levy...its called capital gains tax....and what I'm suggesting is this money not go into government coffers but into the racing industry - infrastructure and prizemoney because the "sold" individual is not going to have the opportunity to generate those funds for the industry that educated him. in fact there wont be enough funds generated by the POC tax to even cover half the prizemoney or infrastructure upgrades necessary to keep the industry sustainable... And Chris, I own plenty...and I find it difficult to reconcile why I've kept going in NZ but I've now made a decision to remove all my horses...all 14 of them to Australia. Because in the big scheme of things, the trading side of the industry has had it too good for too long and has contributed to the unhealthy state the NZ domestic racing industry is in. I don't consider the argument re livelihoods and peripherals sufficiently compelling enough to think that trading is beneficial for the industry. if it had been strategised around 10 to 15 years ago, I don't think the industry would be at the stage its at...and its now too fact, its gone past sunset. As we've seen over the past few months....WP has given himself an out...he gave everyone the opportunity to get behind the Messara report but no, there has been too much friction and disagreement...and now he can say "well I did give you an opportunity but you've blown it"....and do you think Jacinta will stump up sufficient funds to get things rolling? I strongly doubt it. WP had to appear to appease his benefactors .... If the New Zealand owners association, trainers association and the breeders came together to drive the industry things may have been different...but no, not in NZ. Too many individual agendas take a combined force you could have made Government sit up and listen...but no, you let the Nationals ramble though 9 years of government without even a squeal... NZ is too small to have both a trading industry and domestic racing...because this is what we have all need to make a choice - either become 100% breeding/trading or tax exports for the benefit of a healthy domestic racing can't have your cake and eat it too! In closing I've left the most important issue till last. To those who sell their animals without any thoughts for their welfare, they will have bad karma ....those who do give a dam, know where I'm coming from. I find homes for mine..and those that can't be rehomed, I pay up for. Traders who sell without a conscience to Singapore, Malaysia, Macau without a repatriation clause .... well what can I wish for them? I hope their next life is happy and most importantly, profitable....yeah, right.
  17. What compounds this problem are 2 issues. Trading to Asia has killed the value of the Stud book. As you say Insider, selling a colt to Malaysia will do nothing for your family. And anyone that wants to argue that a win in Singapore, Macau, Malaysia and to a degree Hong Kong enhances your family, go and take a dose of salts. Secondly, we sell these horses, in the majority of cases, with no GST payable. And whilst this is a government policy, it’s actually detrimental to our industry. We’re asking the Government to see its way clear for funding but we’re sending our assets offshore (tax/levy free) for the benefit of other racing jurisdictions. The majority of these horses have benefited from NZ industry facilities. As you all say, how many of those with trainers license are dependent on the trading market? Yet apart from monthly track fees and the personal “benefit” of those trading, what recompense is there for the industry..? We all complain about the lack of infrastructure and repairs, yet we let those take a benefit without paying. NZB has made their money,A trainer will take his 10%, a bloodstock agent will take his cut, but where is the benefit for the industry? We are selling our assets for no benefit, other than for those directly involved. Yet we’re all one way or another. Primarily these horses using our facilities for,their education And are not being sent to the races, denying the industry TAB revenue. Im just reading through the list of Holders of A licenses...just noticed 1 who trains in the central district who trials with regularity but has yet to have a race day starter...another up north who had a nice Group winner a week or so ago, has 25 in work yet only half a dozen for domestic racing... A bitter pill to swallow, but it maybe time to adjust the status return for Government assistance we place an “exit” levy on exports to Asia. These trainers who don’t have a set amount of starters yet have a trade horses, pay a hefty levy for their license. Im sure the quality of the NZ reared horse has added value in Asia.... and if they want a continuity of supply, they need to pay. Otherwise the pond will dry up...and as we’re seeing now, breeders are dropping off like flies. What happen then? Just as an example, The TABs in Australia ask everyone to pay them for putting on the Show via a point of consumption this is no different. Time to ask hard questions and implement a sustainable system to ensure the industry as a whole benefits, not just a few.
  18. Quality of horses is a major issue. What bring people to the races? What drives the media? Good horses....WINX. I will admit substandard management is also a huge issue...but if you don’t have quality horses, why go to the races... As I have said for 10 years +, and what 99% of NZ racing stakeholders are in denial has killed domestic racing. Every other “excuse” is just to cover up the denials....
  19. Fabulous time...and it takes a top liner to run time in such a high class race...well, I would have thought so.. But I guess I’ll be admonished by many because as I’ve been told on too many occasions, times don’t matter...
  20. C’mon folks...think a little more strategically here...why was it punished more than his other rides?
  21. Hate to say it, but the NZTAB is typical of retailers in NZ. They just don’t seem to get their heads around the competition angle...but continue to,rape and pillage customers.....just like most businesses in NZ. So as we say in our household, vote with your feet...because you do have alternatives.
  22. How many more chances do you give Jackson? Why I'm lost to the industry as an owner is simply down to this, if they had started retrenching, and I mean starting at the top, I would have stayed as it would've been seen to be a start, something positive, but nothing, their salaries are offensive to the rest of us, so Peters is a failure himself as he the racing minister could have directed retrenchments immediately, but he didn't, and Jackson and his ilk keep on draining the well.......What a joke.
  23. And another one this afternoon at Randwick, Kensington inner track......He's Super Lucky sits 3 and 4 wide and powers away, good stable that travels to NZ looking for the Super Easy's......they have two top class horses, good luck to them......what an underrated sire SE is, outstanding.
  24. Yet I read with interest in this morning’s edition of ANZ Bloodstock News, Garry Chittick pleading with WP to get a hurry on with the stakes increase .... because his business is being effected... can t invest in new stallions. From what I can see, they had a couple of pretty good result at today’s RTR....been top or close to the top of the table at Karaka over the last 10years or so... shame he didn’t rattle the cage a couple of years ago.