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Prime example of Te Akau being in bed with many others within the industry , how can you take this seriously or in its own account with KFE at Te Rapa.
This is not a Te Akau witch hunt just fact, and it's not just them within NZ that have mixed investments/motives on different topics.
 

An example on merely duplications is very coarse.
A breakdown analysis of where the duplication occurs would tell more of a story.
- Eg Sireline of stallion over sireline of mare. 
-Eg 3X3, 4x4x4 etc
Northern Dancer has got that far back that it is more about what type of son of Northern Dancer is duplicated.
So many of his sons are different on type. Sadlers Wells line is very different to Danehill line and hence they combine well. 

Riccarton and Ashburton meetings have been run and completed since with no sign of the trials videos, and both meetings have had runners that trialled on the day from which we have had no access to their videos, disgusting and incompetent.

Riccarton and Ashburton meetings have been run and completed since with no sign of the trials videos, and both meetings have had runners that trialled on the day from which we have had no access to their videos, disgusting and incompetent.

I personally don't think Wellington helped themselves changing from the original two Saturday format with the addition of public holiday monday (always good crowd). The last day has turned into a non event and as a last resort adding the Thorndon Mile to that Raceday didn't work this year.
I feel the Wellington carnival races are best suited to a better quality of racing two Saturdays  not three
 

I personally don't think Wellington helped themselves changing from the original two Saturday format with the addition of public holiday monday (always good crowd). The last day has turned into a non event and as a last resort adding the Thorndon Mile to that Raceday didn't work this year.
I feel the Wellington carnival races are best suited to a better quality of racing two Saturdays  not three
 

Absolutely , The dam line is very important (even more so IMO)
Desert Sun left another very good horse also! .....

Absolutely , The dam line is very important (even more so IMO)
Desert Sun left another very good horse also! .....

I personally don't think Wellington helped themselves changing from the original two Saturday format with the addition of public holiday monday (always good crowd). The last day has turned into a non event and as a last resort adding the Thorndon Mile to that Raceday didn't work this year.
I feel the Wellington carnival races are best suited to a better quality of racing two Saturdays  not three
 

In recent times Darci Brahma beaten a head by Apache Cat in the Australian Guineas when the mile for him at Flemington was just a bit far!

I believe 25% in him has been purchased in him by Newgate Farm/China Horse Club that values him at approximately $3 Million

How the fuck did Acklin get onto that council?!?!?!?! The man completely stuffed up the club's rights under the Act and either didn't understand wat was going on, or played the political game or treasoned the race clubs and industry in general. How can he still have some say?
how do these people get elected? Do the clubs vote for them or is it some quango boys club?
Are they supporting Saundry to be CEO?

Yes, spread too few interesting races over too many weekends and diluted the product too much.

Wellington have stuffed it up anyway changing from the 2 premier Saturdays and the public holiday Monday.
It didn't work having the Thorndon on the average last day with an average tired track.
 

Fair point about those stallions Bruce but I just wanted to touch on upon a generalization.
The New Zealand broodmare band is much broader in distance than it likely had say 30 years ago.
Look at what speed sprinter/ miler sires has been brought in to NZ over the last 30 years and the effect it has had on the broodmare band.
My point is that around 30 years ago we had around 5 to 8 NZ based stallions in top 20 of the Australian sires Premiership. Now we have none! Has the move to sped shot NZ in the foot?
Australia now purchases about $50m dollars a year on stayers from Europe. That never happened 30 years ago.
We will never beat the Aussies at the juvenile and Sprint level but at the 2000m to 2400m we do very well.
And if you check the female lines of Jon Snow and Gingernuts you see that they are mainly dominant classic families.
Jon Snow from the Soliloquy family. Plenty of classic performers from the family, recently Oaks winner Savaria. Solveig won the NZ Oaks
Gingernuts out of a Generous mare that goes back to Eulogy our NZ Hall of Fame mare.
However nothing wrong with injecting turn of foot when a female family may need it!

Fair point but many stallions that are successful here at producing stayers were not 2400m horses, 
Zabeel was a Guineas winner, Tavistock a 1400m horse, Savabeel Cox Plate winner. O'Reilly a sprinter, Ifffaaj a sprinter , Darci Brahma sprinter/miler etc, so obviously when crossed with NZ broodmares can produce a stayer.
Im not knocking Mongolian Khan here more making a point, but in recent times what stallions in NZ have been successful that have no Group form/placings under 2000m? , there's bound to be some but an interesting question ?

Very hard to compare Mongolian Khan to Tivaci, very different horses on pedigree, commercially and on race performance.
First of all Mongolian Khan was a Stayer, his best performance under 2000m in his career was winning a R65 mile and running 4th in a Underwood Stakes, but at 2400m he has 3 G1 wins including 2 Derby's and a Caulfield Cup Handicap G1.
As good a record as he had at 2000m and above (Outstanding record at 2400m) commercially he is not that appealing being a true 2400m horse and the fact that his pedigree is modest at best, he is a cracking good looker though and probably his service fee is about right and he served a large sized book of 148 mares last spring including some very good support from the Inner Mongolia Rider Horse Industry so has been given every chance to succeed.
Tivaci is a dual G3 winner at 3 over 1400m (beating Palentino) & 1600m, his form was solid without being spectacular and he was tested to run a derby trip which backfired as in his career he failed badly at his 2 runs over 1800m, at 4 his form has been very good from 1000m-1600m (a good listed win at 1000m, a G2 placing and G1 4th at 1200m,  G1 WFA win at 1400m and 2 G1 placings at a mile). So he did end up proving himself as a genuine G1 horse without being a true superstar, the thing that Tivaci has is a huge turn of foot.
He is a very good looking imposing horse and pedigree wise he is a son of High Chaparral (who's sons at stud numbers are increasing massively Contributer/Dundeel/Toronado/Redwood etc), out of a winning Fastnet Rock mare who is a half to a G1 winner and a G3 winner, he is also from the extended dam line of Centaine so should suit Waikato Stud mares perfectly (ones with Centaine in the pedigree to linebreed to a damline as well as Savabeel/Pins/O'Reilly/Ocean Park mares as they are an outcross for them)
Commercially all this is very appealing and he looks to be an exciting prospect for Waikato Stud and breeders especially commercially with that G1 under his belt now.

ok I shall go take a good look in the mirror and uppercut myself, I was thinking he was 5. what a dip shit. disregard all the above from me

They were quick 

Analyse a lot of Valachi Down's mating's in the past and current and you will see the point I have made, this is not solely just in reference to this horse, Hickman is not afraid to use a range of stallions or buy non-commercial broodmares in order to achieve matings that have a set line breeding pattern and that are often line bred to influential stallions or mares, He has often looked to duplicate the great mare La Trionne in some of his horses also which with analysis can be seen.
Newton may be just a standout physically, as both Authorized and Footstepsinthesand were both taken off the shuttling lists reasonably early by Darley and Coolmore respectably after having limited success in the southern hemisphere, although the mare was black type placed in the South Island and a couple of other Zabeel G1 winners feature close up in the pedigree so a very nice pedigree

Be remiss not to give these two a nod today, what a year, and every year for that matter, always with different horses.
They've carried the Kiwi flag single handedly and that deserves a hearty well done.
 
 

Not surprising if true, the tracks been in bad shape for a long time.

It has been well noted the success of Iffraaj over Danehill line mares , and Darci Brahma is by Danehill so a big tick there, another big tick is that Darci Brahma is out of a Zabeel mare and Zabeel blood I feel suits Iffraaj also.
Type wise as a general rule a lot of the Darci Brahma fillies/mares lack a bit of size/scope so Iffraaj should suit here in this regard
So in real basic terms it should suit, but as much (if not more) importance goes to the mares damline not just who she is by and also to what kind of type she is etc

It has been well noted the success of Iffraaj over Danehill line mares , and Darci Brahma is by Danehill so a big tick there, another big tick is that Darci Brahma is out of a Zabeel mare and Zabeel blood I feel suits Iffraaj also.
Type wise as a general rule a lot of the Darci Brahma fillies/mares lack a bit of size/scope so Iffraaj should suit here in this regard
So in real basic terms it should suit, but as much (if not more) importance goes to the mares damline not just who she is by and also to what kind of type she is etc

Not surprising if true, the tracks been in bad shape for a long time.