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Blind Squirrel

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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Baz (NZ) in ~ R2 Ellerslie...   
    I thought I had given this sort of maths sh*t up after my third year in the fifth form - now it's coming back to haunt me aaaaagggghhhh
  2. Haha
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Basil brush in ~ R2 Ellerslie...   
    I thought I had given this sort of maths sh*t up after my third year in the fifth form - now it's coming back to haunt me aaaaagggghhhh
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from harewood in Tote Place Divs.   
    Perhaps if you both understood how the different types of bet options operate especially the tote then you might care to revise what you have said.
    The average TAB takeout rate on Final Field bets is around 5-6% (or it used to be) and is not a guaranteed return. The takeout rates on tote products is around 3-4 times higher and IS a guaranteed return so why the TAB would encourage FInal Field place bets over tote isn't plausible.
    Example - Punter 1 places $20 FF place bet on a horse paying $2FFP - The TAB gets $1.20 from the bet (if FF takeout rate is 6%) once placed. If the bets loses then the TAB gets your whole $20 and makes $20. If the horse is successful then the punter gets $40 and the TAB gets their $1.20 and loses $38.80 on the bet - a major negative return.
    Tote - Punter places same bet on the tote - TAB gets 14.25% of every $1 on commingled pools so TAB gets a guaranteed $2.85 - the balance of your $20 bet goes into the pool to make up the place dividend pool which determines what your horse ultimately pays if successful - as the TAB pays out every $1 in that pool it doesn't win extra if your bet is unsuccessful nor does it lose anything if it comes in - it gets its guaranteed $2.85.
    A better result on the whole on most occasions - so why would TAB want to discourage this - I think not.
    As for the bet changing odds from $9 to $2.80 - are you new to betting or do you not understand how a tote works??????
    If it was a minor Aussie harness meeting there was probably less than $1k in the tote win pool when your saw the horse and maybe $12-$15k when it closed.
    If the horse you saw was well favoured (and 80% of betting occurs in the last 30seconds before race close) then it's pretty easy to see how the odds changed as the weight of money dragged it down - the fact that movement didn't show for about a minute after the race started is purely due to the time the TAB systems take to calculate the dividend movements based on that late money taken - which normally takes time.
    Hope that helps you both
     
     
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from gary1 in This is why we are buggered   
    I can see the point you are making but just one stat that makes it look worse is that Snitzel's son Redzel did win A$5.8m in one hit when he won the Everest. That is an outlier that should be considered I would think?
  5. Haha
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Insider in Scott Base at $4.....???   
    If you come for the King - best not miss
    I just hope you haven't bought a spoon to a gunfight there newbie.
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Lloyd Vivian in Ellerslie today   
    Some interesting rebuttal - mostly self interested garbage - but none the less debate has been achieved. In no particular order
    Chevvy - the logical conclusion to your argument is that you will continue on an ever decreasing downward spiral that will eventually see the entire industry wiped out no matter how many millions have been expended to keep it propped up to appease those who are trying to steer it forward by watching things unfold in the rear view mirror. But by golly you and your like minded cronies will have a good time while it lasted in your insular, protectionist world - your dismissal of the younger generation as punting and/or ownership candidates is breathtakingly shallow, narrow minded and quite simply what I would expect from you.
    Gubs - I will ask George next time I see him at the races and have a laugh about it. Perhaps you might like to comment on whether the industry is beholding to the likes/dislikes of one paid employee who is contracted to do a particular job - definitely a skilful job that he does exceptionally well but quite simply a job plain and simple.
    Tom - a well thought out argument and I would suggest the answers lie somewhere in between what was on offer tonight and the ideal scenario - however to suggest having the purists pissed off is a bad thing is overly dramatic. Ask the cricket purists how they enjoy a game that was dying on the vine before one day and T20 was brought in and I would expect they will begrudgingly say it has been the lifeblood of their sport's survival - Test matches with less than 2000 in attendance and NO television coverage due to "only the purists" wanting to watch would now be the norm without the innovation (and the same for rugby I might add). 
    The rest - a minor point however one worth making - I find it difficult to sympathise with any of your views when you make your points with overwrought emotional language - FFS its not the end of the world but you would think this was the greatest disastaer ever inflicted on mankind. Try using a little perspective for once
    Oh and about the inference's about my moniker and making such well disguised digs at it - if you're going to act like 5 year-olds well the best I can say is - you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Lloyd Vivian in Ellerslie today   
    If anyone needed evidence on the lack of a future for thoroughbred racing in this country they only need to read the comments registered on this topic to date.
    The reality is this is an industry struggling for relevance in modern times, clinging to a vision (through rose tinted spectacles) of what was once a thriving entertainment option with little or no competition hoping that doing the same thing over and over again will generate a different outcome.
    Ellerslie implement these twilight racing events to attract a new/younger generation to racing (pics on Trackside looks like it works pretty well) and the over 50 brigade on here are bagging the night because of the jockeys colours!! Surely one or two days a year the traditionalists like yourselves can actually sit back, keep your childish invective to yourself and maybe congratulate the people who have tried to look outside the square to something that, god forbid, may have traction in the media, create an atmosphere of positivity and get people thinking about racing as a genuine entertainment opportunity.
    No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse but for FFS do you really think that matters to those who rocked up for the atmospehere and to enjoy themselves who may never have been before. And if you think it will stop them from coming back you are delusional.
    I have no problem having a little difficulty following my horse on these rare occasions if it actually benefits the sport I love - whoever got this off the ground, got the corporate sponsors involved, had the foresight to have some of Australasia's best riding talent involved and provided a great night out to benefit the future of the sport deserves congratulations rather than a flaying that you all seem to want to dish out.
    Well done Ellerslie - at least you have tried something rarher sat behind a keyboard and offered little but a glimpse of the 1960's.
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from tonkatime in Ellerslie today   
    As the resident know-it-all I'm sure you meant Craig Baker the ARC Racing Manager as opposed to Hallmark Studs Mark Baker - both top notch fellas but I doubt very much that Mark speaks for the ARC. Good to see you got Claydo's name completely correct - well done you, have half a gold star.
    For the record I did say the following "No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse" - my argument was not that the colours weren't tough for those used to seeing the traditional silks - my argument, if you looked outside your narrow minded invective, was that you were just another of the mob trashing the whole event based on one component of a multi headed beast that was designed to try and lift racing out of the doldrums. 
    You all want change, growth, prosperity yet the minute anyone steps outside an antiquated set of norms you attempt to undermine them with your overwrought version of the chicken little classic "The sky is falling...: 
     
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from chelseacol in Ellerslie today   
    Perhaps I was to hasty to lump you in with others - must do better there.
    However lets look at what you said - "However It was utter inanity to have those colours tonight making it difficult for punters and commentator alike to follow each race.
    By all means have the concept but leave the stupidity out."
    That passes for CONSTRUCTIVE criticism does it - I'll let others decide on that but I know what my thoughts are and constructive it aint.
    BTW - just as an exercise, exactly how many horses on the night would have sported their "Owners colours" - I know all the Te Akau horses would and maybe those raced by Lib Petagna, Kevin Hickman (if they had any running) and a few other larger owners (most likely Spindle would have as it is a special syndicate) however without doing the maths I would suggest if it was 15% I would be surprised. Just how sacrosanct do the owners of the other 850% of horses running believe colours are then.
    How far out are those numbers Ted you constructive and relentlessly positive individual.
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Fartoomuch in Ellerslie today   
    As the resident know-it-all I'm sure you meant Craig Baker the ARC Racing Manager as opposed to Hallmark Studs Mark Baker - both top notch fellas but I doubt very much that Mark speaks for the ARC. Good to see you got Claydo's name completely correct - well done you, have half a gold star.
    For the record I did say the following "No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse" - my argument was not that the colours weren't tough for those used to seeing the traditional silks - my argument, if you looked outside your narrow minded invective, was that you were just another of the mob trashing the whole event based on one component of a multi headed beast that was designed to try and lift racing out of the doldrums. 
    You all want change, growth, prosperity yet the minute anyone steps outside an antiquated set of norms you attempt to undermine them with your overwrought version of the chicken little classic "The sky is falling...: 
     
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from chelseacol in Ellerslie today   
    As the resident know-it-all I'm sure you meant Craig Baker the ARC Racing Manager as opposed to Hallmark Studs Mark Baker - both top notch fellas but I doubt very much that Mark speaks for the ARC. Good to see you got Claydo's name completely correct - well done you, have half a gold star.
    For the record I did say the following "No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse" - my argument was not that the colours weren't tough for those used to seeing the traditional silks - my argument, if you looked outside your narrow minded invective, was that you were just another of the mob trashing the whole event based on one component of a multi headed beast that was designed to try and lift racing out of the doldrums. 
    You all want change, growth, prosperity yet the minute anyone steps outside an antiquated set of norms you attempt to undermine them with your overwrought version of the chicken little classic "The sky is falling...: 
     
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from The Crucible in Ellerslie today   
    As the resident know-it-all I'm sure you meant Craig Baker the ARC Racing Manager as opposed to Hallmark Studs Mark Baker - both top notch fellas but I doubt very much that Mark speaks for the ARC. Good to see you got Claydo's name completely correct - well done you, have half a gold star.
    For the record I did say the following "No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse" - my argument was not that the colours weren't tough for those used to seeing the traditional silks - my argument, if you looked outside your narrow minded invective, was that you were just another of the mob trashing the whole event based on one component of a multi headed beast that was designed to try and lift racing out of the doldrums. 
    You all want change, growth, prosperity yet the minute anyone steps outside an antiquated set of norms you attempt to undermine them with your overwrought version of the chicken little classic "The sky is falling...: 
     
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from MrBigStuff in Ellerslie today   
    As the resident know-it-all I'm sure you meant Craig Baker the ARC Racing Manager as opposed to Hallmark Studs Mark Baker - both top notch fellas but I doubt very much that Mark speaks for the ARC. Good to see you got Claydo's name completely correct - well done you, have half a gold star.
    For the record I did say the following "No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse" - my argument was not that the colours weren't tough for those used to seeing the traditional silks - my argument, if you looked outside your narrow minded invective, was that you were just another of the mob trashing the whole event based on one component of a multi headed beast that was designed to try and lift racing out of the doldrums. 
    You all want change, growth, prosperity yet the minute anyone steps outside an antiquated set of norms you attempt to undermine them with your overwrought version of the chicken little classic "The sky is falling...: 
     
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from tonkatime in Ellerslie today   
    Some interesting rebuttal - mostly self interested garbage - but none the less debate has been achieved. In no particular order
    Chevvy - the logical conclusion to your argument is that you will continue on an ever decreasing downward spiral that will eventually see the entire industry wiped out no matter how many millions have been expended to keep it propped up to appease those who are trying to steer it forward by watching things unfold in the rear view mirror. But by golly you and your like minded cronies will have a good time while it lasted in your insular, protectionist world - your dismissal of the younger generation as punting and/or ownership candidates is breathtakingly shallow, narrow minded and quite simply what I would expect from you.
    Gubs - I will ask George next time I see him at the races and have a laugh about it. Perhaps you might like to comment on whether the industry is beholding to the likes/dislikes of one paid employee who is contracted to do a particular job - definitely a skilful job that he does exceptionally well but quite simply a job plain and simple.
    Tom - a well thought out argument and I would suggest the answers lie somewhere in between what was on offer tonight and the ideal scenario - however to suggest having the purists pissed off is a bad thing is overly dramatic. Ask the cricket purists how they enjoy a game that was dying on the vine before one day and T20 was brought in and I would expect they will begrudgingly say it has been the lifeblood of their sport's survival - Test matches with less than 2000 in attendance and NO television coverage due to "only the purists" wanting to watch would now be the norm without the innovation (and the same for rugby I might add). 
    The rest - a minor point however one worth making - I find it difficult to sympathise with any of your views when you make your points with overwrought emotional language - FFS its not the end of the world but you would think this was the greatest disastaer ever inflicted on mankind. Try using a little perspective for once
    Oh and about the inference's about my moniker and making such well disguised digs at it - if you're going to act like 5 year-olds well the best I can say is - you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from tonkatime in Ellerslie today   
    If anyone needed evidence on the lack of a future for thoroughbred racing in this country they only need to read the comments registered on this topic to date.
    The reality is this is an industry struggling for relevance in modern times, clinging to a vision (through rose tinted spectacles) of what was once a thriving entertainment option with little or no competition hoping that doing the same thing over and over again will generate a different outcome.
    Ellerslie implement these twilight racing events to attract a new/younger generation to racing (pics on Trackside looks like it works pretty well) and the over 50 brigade on here are bagging the night because of the jockeys colours!! Surely one or two days a year the traditionalists like yourselves can actually sit back, keep your childish invective to yourself and maybe congratulate the people who have tried to look outside the square to something that, god forbid, may have traction in the media, create an atmosphere of positivity and get people thinking about racing as a genuine entertainment opportunity.
    No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse but for FFS do you really think that matters to those who rocked up for the atmospehere and to enjoy themselves who may never have been before. And if you think it will stop them from coming back you are delusional.
    I have no problem having a little difficulty following my horse on these rare occasions if it actually benefits the sport I love - whoever got this off the ground, got the corporate sponsors involved, had the foresight to have some of Australasia's best riding talent involved and provided a great night out to benefit the future of the sport deserves congratulations rather than a flaying that you all seem to want to dish out.
    Well done Ellerslie - at least you have tried something rarher sat behind a keyboard and offered little but a glimpse of the 1960's.
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from cantab matt in Ellerslie today   
    If anyone needed evidence on the lack of a future for thoroughbred racing in this country they only need to read the comments registered on this topic to date.
    The reality is this is an industry struggling for relevance in modern times, clinging to a vision (through rose tinted spectacles) of what was once a thriving entertainment option with little or no competition hoping that doing the same thing over and over again will generate a different outcome.
    Ellerslie implement these twilight racing events to attract a new/younger generation to racing (pics on Trackside looks like it works pretty well) and the over 50 brigade on here are bagging the night because of the jockeys colours!! Surely one or two days a year the traditionalists like yourselves can actually sit back, keep your childish invective to yourself and maybe congratulate the people who have tried to look outside the square to something that, god forbid, may have traction in the media, create an atmosphere of positivity and get people thinking about racing as a genuine entertainment opportunity.
    No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse but for FFS do you really think that matters to those who rocked up for the atmospehere and to enjoy themselves who may never have been before. And if you think it will stop them from coming back you are delusional.
    I have no problem having a little difficulty following my horse on these rare occasions if it actually benefits the sport I love - whoever got this off the ground, got the corporate sponsors involved, had the foresight to have some of Australasia's best riding talent involved and provided a great night out to benefit the future of the sport deserves congratulations rather than a flaying that you all seem to want to dish out.
    Well done Ellerslie - at least you have tried something rarher sat behind a keyboard and offered little but a glimpse of the 1960's.
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Catalano in Ellerslie today   
    Some interesting rebuttal - mostly self interested garbage - but none the less debate has been achieved. In no particular order
    Chevvy - the logical conclusion to your argument is that you will continue on an ever decreasing downward spiral that will eventually see the entire industry wiped out no matter how many millions have been expended to keep it propped up to appease those who are trying to steer it forward by watching things unfold in the rear view mirror. But by golly you and your like minded cronies will have a good time while it lasted in your insular, protectionist world - your dismissal of the younger generation as punting and/or ownership candidates is breathtakingly shallow, narrow minded and quite simply what I would expect from you.
    Gubs - I will ask George next time I see him at the races and have a laugh about it. Perhaps you might like to comment on whether the industry is beholding to the likes/dislikes of one paid employee who is contracted to do a particular job - definitely a skilful job that he does exceptionally well but quite simply a job plain and simple.
    Tom - a well thought out argument and I would suggest the answers lie somewhere in between what was on offer tonight and the ideal scenario - however to suggest having the purists pissed off is a bad thing is overly dramatic. Ask the cricket purists how they enjoy a game that was dying on the vine before one day and T20 was brought in and I would expect they will begrudgingly say it has been the lifeblood of their sport's survival - Test matches with less than 2000 in attendance and NO television coverage due to "only the purists" wanting to watch would now be the norm without the innovation (and the same for rugby I might add). 
    The rest - a minor point however one worth making - I find it difficult to sympathise with any of your views when you make your points with overwrought emotional language - FFS its not the end of the world but you would think this was the greatest disastaer ever inflicted on mankind. Try using a little perspective for once
    Oh and about the inference's about my moniker and making such well disguised digs at it - if you're going to act like 5 year-olds well the best I can say is - you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
  18. Like
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Fartoomuch in Ellerslie today   
    Some interesting rebuttal - mostly self interested garbage - but none the less debate has been achieved. In no particular order
    Chevvy - the logical conclusion to your argument is that you will continue on an ever decreasing downward spiral that will eventually see the entire industry wiped out no matter how many millions have been expended to keep it propped up to appease those who are trying to steer it forward by watching things unfold in the rear view mirror. But by golly you and your like minded cronies will have a good time while it lasted in your insular, protectionist world - your dismissal of the younger generation as punting and/or ownership candidates is breathtakingly shallow, narrow minded and quite simply what I would expect from you.
    Gubs - I will ask George next time I see him at the races and have a laugh about it. Perhaps you might like to comment on whether the industry is beholding to the likes/dislikes of one paid employee who is contracted to do a particular job - definitely a skilful job that he does exceptionally well but quite simply a job plain and simple.
    Tom - a well thought out argument and I would suggest the answers lie somewhere in between what was on offer tonight and the ideal scenario - however to suggest having the purists pissed off is a bad thing is overly dramatic. Ask the cricket purists how they enjoy a game that was dying on the vine before one day and T20 was brought in and I would expect they will begrudgingly say it has been the lifeblood of their sport's survival - Test matches with less than 2000 in attendance and NO television coverage due to "only the purists" wanting to watch would now be the norm without the innovation (and the same for rugby I might add). 
    The rest - a minor point however one worth making - I find it difficult to sympathise with any of your views when you make your points with overwrought emotional language - FFS its not the end of the world but you would think this was the greatest disastaer ever inflicted on mankind. Try using a little perspective for once
    Oh and about the inference's about my moniker and making such well disguised digs at it - if you're going to act like 5 year-olds well the best I can say is - you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
  19. Like
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Fartoomuch in Ellerslie today   
    If anyone needed evidence on the lack of a future for thoroughbred racing in this country they only need to read the comments registered on this topic to date.
    The reality is this is an industry struggling for relevance in modern times, clinging to a vision (through rose tinted spectacles) of what was once a thriving entertainment option with little or no competition hoping that doing the same thing over and over again will generate a different outcome.
    Ellerslie implement these twilight racing events to attract a new/younger generation to racing (pics on Trackside looks like it works pretty well) and the over 50 brigade on here are bagging the night because of the jockeys colours!! Surely one or two days a year the traditionalists like yourselves can actually sit back, keep your childish invective to yourself and maybe congratulate the people who have tried to look outside the square to something that, god forbid, may have traction in the media, create an atmosphere of positivity and get people thinking about racing as a genuine entertainment opportunity.
    No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse but for FFS do you really think that matters to those who rocked up for the atmospehere and to enjoy themselves who may never have been before. And if you think it will stop them from coming back you are delusional.
    I have no problem having a little difficulty following my horse on these rare occasions if it actually benefits the sport I love - whoever got this off the ground, got the corporate sponsors involved, had the foresight to have some of Australasia's best riding talent involved and provided a great night out to benefit the future of the sport deserves congratulations rather than a flaying that you all seem to want to dish out.
    Well done Ellerslie - at least you have tried something rarher sat behind a keyboard and offered little but a glimpse of the 1960's.
  20. Like
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Fartoomuch in Ellerslie today   
    nope but thanks for playing - now pop back to your colouring book and let the grown ups chat
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from vanturk1 in Ellerslie today   
    If anyone needed evidence on the lack of a future for thoroughbred racing in this country they only need to read the comments registered on this topic to date.
    The reality is this is an industry struggling for relevance in modern times, clinging to a vision (through rose tinted spectacles) of what was once a thriving entertainment option with little or no competition hoping that doing the same thing over and over again will generate a different outcome.
    Ellerslie implement these twilight racing events to attract a new/younger generation to racing (pics on Trackside looks like it works pretty well) and the over 50 brigade on here are bagging the night because of the jockeys colours!! Surely one or two days a year the traditionalists like yourselves can actually sit back, keep your childish invective to yourself and maybe congratulate the people who have tried to look outside the square to something that, god forbid, may have traction in the media, create an atmosphere of positivity and get people thinking about racing as a genuine entertainment opportunity.
    No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse but for FFS do you really think that matters to those who rocked up for the atmospehere and to enjoy themselves who may never have been before. And if you think it will stop them from coming back you are delusional.
    I have no problem having a little difficulty following my horse on these rare occasions if it actually benefits the sport I love - whoever got this off the ground, got the corporate sponsors involved, had the foresight to have some of Australasia's best riding talent involved and provided a great night out to benefit the future of the sport deserves congratulations rather than a flaying that you all seem to want to dish out.
    Well done Ellerslie - at least you have tried something rarher sat behind a keyboard and offered little but a glimpse of the 1960's.
  22. Like
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from barryb in Ellerslie today   
    Some interesting rebuttal - mostly self interested garbage - but none the less debate has been achieved. In no particular order
    Chevvy - the logical conclusion to your argument is that you will continue on an ever decreasing downward spiral that will eventually see the entire industry wiped out no matter how many millions have been expended to keep it propped up to appease those who are trying to steer it forward by watching things unfold in the rear view mirror. But by golly you and your like minded cronies will have a good time while it lasted in your insular, protectionist world - your dismissal of the younger generation as punting and/or ownership candidates is breathtakingly shallow, narrow minded and quite simply what I would expect from you.
    Gubs - I will ask George next time I see him at the races and have a laugh about it. Perhaps you might like to comment on whether the industry is beholding to the likes/dislikes of one paid employee who is contracted to do a particular job - definitely a skilful job that he does exceptionally well but quite simply a job plain and simple.
    Tom - a well thought out argument and I would suggest the answers lie somewhere in between what was on offer tonight and the ideal scenario - however to suggest having the purists pissed off is a bad thing is overly dramatic. Ask the cricket purists how they enjoy a game that was dying on the vine before one day and T20 was brought in and I would expect they will begrudgingly say it has been the lifeblood of their sport's survival - Test matches with less than 2000 in attendance and NO television coverage due to "only the purists" wanting to watch would now be the norm without the innovation (and the same for rugby I might add). 
    The rest - a minor point however one worth making - I find it difficult to sympathise with any of your views when you make your points with overwrought emotional language - FFS its not the end of the world but you would think this was the greatest disastaer ever inflicted on mankind. Try using a little perspective for once
    Oh and about the inference's about my moniker and making such well disguised digs at it - if you're going to act like 5 year-olds well the best I can say is - you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
  23. Like
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from shaneMcAlister in Ellerslie today   
    If anyone needed evidence on the lack of a future for thoroughbred racing in this country they only need to read the comments registered on this topic to date.
    The reality is this is an industry struggling for relevance in modern times, clinging to a vision (through rose tinted spectacles) of what was once a thriving entertainment option with little or no competition hoping that doing the same thing over and over again will generate a different outcome.
    Ellerslie implement these twilight racing events to attract a new/younger generation to racing (pics on Trackside looks like it works pretty well) and the over 50 brigade on here are bagging the night because of the jockeys colours!! Surely one or two days a year the traditionalists like yourselves can actually sit back, keep your childish invective to yourself and maybe congratulate the people who have tried to look outside the square to something that, god forbid, may have traction in the media, create an atmosphere of positivity and get people thinking about racing as a genuine entertainment opportunity.
    No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse but for FFS do you really think that matters to those who rocked up for the atmospehere and to enjoy themselves who may never have been before. And if you think it will stop them from coming back you are delusional.
    I have no problem having a little difficulty following my horse on these rare occasions if it actually benefits the sport I love - whoever got this off the ground, got the corporate sponsors involved, had the foresight to have some of Australasia's best riding talent involved and provided a great night out to benefit the future of the sport deserves congratulations rather than a flaying that you all seem to want to dish out.
    Well done Ellerslie - at least you have tried something rarher sat behind a keyboard and offered little but a glimpse of the 1960's.
  24. Haha
    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from swampfox in Ellerslie today   
    nope but thanks for playing - now pop back to your colouring book and let the grown ups chat
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    Blind Squirrel got a reaction from Aaron Bidlake in Ellerslie today   
    If anyone needed evidence on the lack of a future for thoroughbred racing in this country they only need to read the comments registered on this topic to date.
    The reality is this is an industry struggling for relevance in modern times, clinging to a vision (through rose tinted spectacles) of what was once a thriving entertainment option with little or no competition hoping that doing the same thing over and over again will generate a different outcome.
    Ellerslie implement these twilight racing events to attract a new/younger generation to racing (pics on Trackside looks like it works pretty well) and the over 50 brigade on here are bagging the night because of the jockeys colours!! Surely one or two days a year the traditionalists like yourselves can actually sit back, keep your childish invective to yourself and maybe congratulate the people who have tried to look outside the square to something that, god forbid, may have traction in the media, create an atmosphere of positivity and get people thinking about racing as a genuine entertainment opportunity.
    No doubt the colours could have been a little more diverse and easier to associate with either the jockey or horse but for FFS do you really think that matters to those who rocked up for the atmospehere and to enjoy themselves who may never have been before. And if you think it will stop them from coming back you are delusional.
    I have no problem having a little difficulty following my horse on these rare occasions if it actually benefits the sport I love - whoever got this off the ground, got the corporate sponsors involved, had the foresight to have some of Australasia's best riding talent involved and provided a great night out to benefit the future of the sport deserves congratulations rather than a flaying that you all seem to want to dish out.
    Well done Ellerslie - at least you have tried something rarher sat behind a keyboard and offered little but a glimpse of the 1960's.