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So what was stopping you backing Tara Tutaia ? You do know that Pick My Pocket was a ballot in that race?

Brodie, i think you may have missed my question

So brodie. Tell us all how much you collected off medusa the other day. Opened at 31s closed at 8s. When you saw those odds you must have been beside yourself ! Brown or White?

Of course tho, the tote vs fixed odds isnt all that fair to compare. The tote price is the amount invested on race less takeout divided by how many units on the runner. With Fixed odds the bookies would take all the risk and i think ( esp. in harness ) that a larger proportion would be bet on the favourites on fixed rather than through the tote. So if the bookies were to price their markets according to how many units they thought they would take on each runner, the favs would be a hell of a lot shorter.So maybe,we are getting a fair price? No-one knows . All we can do , is to place our bets when we are happy with the odds.I dont think the average punter knows what a fair or value price is on each runner. I cant see average Joe pricing each race he/she wants to bet into. Rather they will be in the pub and with 30 seconds before the mobile pulls away will look at the screen and put his 5 each way on the fav. I cant comment on the place markets as I never look at them

Not sure by what you mean " a supporter" of the TAB. Yes I have the odd bet through them. So if that makes me a supporter then so be it. Bit like me calling into a dairy on the way to work to buy an ice cream. I suppose Im also supporting them . I have no idea who Gonsta is. In some respects the TAB are doing a good job, in others, no so good. So are you saying the Bookies should open up their markets at 9am at 120% ? No bookmaker in the world does this ! And with harness it would be sheer suicide for them if they did . I was looking at the website of the TAB in Aussie the other week. They were opening up their harness markets 10 minutes before each race !!!! So the service the kiwi punters get from the TAB on harness is far superior to anyones. No ,i dont beleive the odds are unresonably low and I dont beleive that many ( apart from a few malcontents ) are turning away from the NZ TAB

Firstly. i am NOT an employee of the TAB. Of course the odds i stated are the closing odds. I dont sit infron of the computer from the minute they open the odds up and note every change they make. If you want to, then go ahead. Of course the closing odds are the ones that are offered for most of the. Infact you answered your own question when you said theopening market is around 139% and closes around 120%. If you dont want to to bet into a 139% market , wait till they have to move the odds out to bring the % down. Using your words..... Not rocket science.

race1 pretoruis tote 4.30 ff 4.60 value on ff race2 ag white socks tote 6.70 ff 7.50 value on ff race3 nicaea franco tote 4.40 ff 4.20 value on tote race4 casino king tote 6.00 ff 6.00 equal race5 hopeful harriet tote 8.00 ff 7.00 value on tote race6 my amour tote 3.00 ff 3.20 value on ff race 7 bettor but it tote 2.20 ff 2.20 equal race8 stunnin dude tote 4.00 ff 4.00 equal race9 arranchief tote 8.00 ff 7.50 value tote so out of 9 races the tote matched ff 3 times. More value on the tote 3 times. more value on ff 3 times. Seems like they are being very fair to me

So what did you do before the introduction of Fixed odds?

Well well well, it does appear they do know what they are doing. Generating more money for the good of the industry. Well done Team Bookies

Perhaps you should put in on the tote if you are unhappy