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    Will be called by Justin Evans - you would imagine? Potentially even from the studio in Dunedin?
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    The Box Seat-A Question??

    I'm struggling to see your point re salaries.... They'd be paid by Trackside wouldn't they - and it would form part of their existing contracts as presenters. Cancelling the show isn't going to all of a sudden make all this new money appear for stakes...
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    HRNZ Amateur Hour

    Again, you point in the wrong direction. It's the clubs who aren't doing what you desire.
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    HRNZ Amateur Hour

    You know this happens every week, aye JJ? I'm all for a good criticism when justified, but this post is so far off the mark in it's direction and intent it's not funny. When fields are first produced onto the HRNZ website, last start drivers are automatically upload with the first update. You'll see blank driver spaces at this stage because there is likely to be a conflict in driver as in, multiple drives in each race, suspended drivers, ineligible drivers etc... once drivers are confirmed to the Club, then the appropriate actions are undertaken. Second point.... Driver allocations and bookings aren't handled by HRNZ. These are done by the respective racing secretaries who update as they are provided the information from trainers. As mentioned above, never pay too much attention until the cut-off for driver notifications. Is there a flaw in this process that led you to think this? Quite possibly. But it would be far worse if it was still showing RT as driving at both meetings today as opposed to yesterday morning before driver notifications closed. Perhaps no drivers should be automatically uploaded until confirmation time. Then, in most cases - you'll have no drivers listed in publications and newspapers.
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    Best performance of Cup Week

    Here's one from the beaten brigade. Go and check out the run of Sweet Mary in the Mares' race on Show Day. Last at the 400m mark, had to angle around everything and flew home for third. The best non-winning performance I saw all week, I reckon.
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    May and O'Reilly at Gore

    I never quite understand this Ricky stuff when it crops up. In my opinion, in terms of longevity, his career is one of the best we've ever had. I dont know the exact number, but from memory, since 1989 he's only finished outside of the top five drivers for the season on about a handful of occasions, and on those occasions was usually not far off it. Nearly 3,000 wins would suggest anyone who questions his ability in the sulky might need to take a good look at themselves. Add to that the fact that over the past 90 seasons, which have included the dominance of Dexter and Blair he's still managed to drive more than 900 winners and I'd suggest he doesnt have to answer to anyone. Just my opinion and happy to be proven wrong. Three decades on top, and right near the top of your field is a remarkable feat by anyone - and there's no sign of it stopping anytime soon either.
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    clubs "bulk funding"

    It's a messy situation, that's for sure. Bulk funding, in some ways, removes the demand of attempting to get people on course to bet at your race meetings, something which makes me feel uneasy. So much emphasis at a club level used to be on how much money was turned over on your meeting as it ultimately resulted in how much of a payout you would get from either the on course/off course betting and also the Fixed Odds betting - the percentages weren't excessively high - but a good successful meeting could net a club a very nice payout once the bean counters had done their thing. Now we are faced with a situation where some clubs, particularly those who run multiple, low stake, meetings in a season will focus more on other things rather than driving turn over and be happy with the status quo pay out from the bulk funding model. The more proactive clubs however will see the opportunity to hopefully increase their percentage share by consistently delivering good numbers when it comes to turnover to then enhance their ability to push more money back into stakes. There's no hiding from the fact that are stake levels are atrocious, especially when sitting alongside a handicapping system which doesn't do a lot of favours to the up and coming exciting horse who wins a few races in a row. Every club would love to be running for a minimum maiden stake of $10k - but for some, it's just not realistic.
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    McGrath charges ....

    Is he though? It's a bit of a grey area to be honest. Usually in order to get the chance to file for costs it would have to be from a defended hearing, which in this case it was not as the Crown dropped their charges at the last possible minute to avoid it getting to that situation. NM was prepared to fight to prove his innocence and had he been successful in that act then yes, he would have been more the open to filing for costs. A little murky and I'm not 100 per cent certain where he stands now in that regard, neither were a couple of legal experts that I quizzed on it this morning. The Public Interest test was an interesting aspect to what unfolded yesterday.
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    woman drivers

    Kerryn Manning's historic victory in last month's New Zealand Trotting Cup with Arden Rooney captured headlines around the Southern Hemisphere. As the first female driver to win the great race, the Australian native will forever remembered for her effort. The history of females driving in races in New Zealand runs a lot deeper than November 10, 2015.BELLA BUTTON. Sounds a lot like a Saturday morning children's television character doesn't it? Maybe it's the alliteration of her name, which does it. After all, Dexter Dunn has a certain ring to it. You would think that might be where the comparisons between the two might stop. But it's far from the finish. You see, Button was setting records and creating history more than 100 years before Double D was born. It was her, along with others, who set the wheels in motion for females driving in harness racing. And therefore it was Button who played a major part in the success of Kerryn Manning when she broke the New Zealand Trotting Cup hoodoo at Addington last month and became the first female to win the great race from the sulky. Button created history in harness racing for the first time on record in 1890 when she and her trusty steed, Star, whom she also both owned and trained, rallied to success in the first race at the inaugural Ashburton Trotting Club meeting in Mid Canterbury. At a similar time Ethel Abbott was granted a licence by the Otahuhu Trotting Club at the ripe age of 16. Both were given one day club permits to drive at selected meetings but official licences were issued at a national level and despite a modicum of success for both, they were constantly refused. Eventually the rejection drove Button away from the industry, although she did remain involved through her New Brighton establishment Brooklyn Lodge where it was reported she was in demand when it came to difficult racehorses. Despite her premature departure from trotting, Button left an everlasting mark, as did Abbott, and the presence of female drivers was forever a distant buzz in the ears of administrators who didn't see it fit for females to be competing against their male counterparts. The issue wasn't just isolated to New Zealand though. Harness racing in all corners was having the same debate and archaic values were trumping every argument with comment being thrown from all sectors that women were not fit to compete in fully fledged races. Walter Moore who was a much regarded American harness racing journalist wrote the following in the Horse Review in 1918 and it underlines the battles females faced not only in America, but in Australia and New Zealand too.He wrote..."I cannot refrain from giving my views on the situation which were formed after seeing one of the most prominent women drives in the central states drive in a number of races. Mrs Chas. H Deyo takes the position that as woman are at the present called upon to perform labour; they should be allowed to drive professional races against the men. I think if trainers are so situated that their wives can accompany the stable of a campaign and act as bookkeeper, that is a very fine arrangement. Their work does not bring them into unpleasant situations, and they find it both healthful and interesting. They are splendid women, informed on all subjects, and are not horse bugs saturated with horse knowledge and conversation alone, but are better equipped in the finer things of the world than many ladies who have never been inside of a training stable.But to see a woman get up and drive in a race in a big field of hoppled pacers, or trotters for that matter - probably the danger is no greater in one place than it is in the other - makes a real lady look entirely out of place to me. To see her beating and banging an old pacer through the stretch makes me think that the mothers of old are gone forever. I am thankful that I have never seen a bad accident in a field where there was a woman driver competing, but after seeing a good many spills, with half the field down, and half the drivers bruised up terribly, I have always felt very thankful that there were no ladies in the wreck. I see no objection, and, in fact would enjoy much seeing a special event against time with a lady driver taking the leading role, particularly if she be a capable reins woman, and there are many of them, with only two horses on the track, the principal and the prompter; but in a big field of horses where men get excited and say and do things they would not think of doing in the presence of a lady, it make an entirely different situation. I felt certain that the 'powers that be' would pass a rule, or amend one of the old ones, during the past winter of rule tinkering, that would prevent woman drives taking part in regular races, but it seems to have been neglected."Oh how times have changed.Had Mr Moore penned such words today, he would most likely be without a job - but at that time in history his article gives further credence to just how difficult it was for women to break through. As written earlier, despite the efforts of the likes of Bella Button and Ethel Abbott harness racing was a little slow on the uptake and it was more than 70 years later before equality between male and female drivers was finalised. On the 20th November 1971 the first penalty bearing race for women who raced on special one day licences was held. Dubbed the Hip Hi Stakes and run for $550 at Addington the event was won by Lyn Smith, driving Derryhill. Other prominent names in the race included Barbara May, Noeline Ferguson, Denise Nyhan, Elizabeth McGrath, Carol Deuart, Una Anso, Allison Murfitt, Vi Mercep and Robyn Negus.It took another eight years following that race for some serious change to take place and in 1979 the waters were finally broken when three women, Lorraine Grant, Dorothy Cutts and Anne Cooney, were granted licences by the NZ Trotting Conference to compete against the men. Cutts was granted a full professional driver's licence while Watson was given an amateur licence and Cooney, a probationary licence. Interestingly the press release at the time in the NZ Trotting Calendar closed with the statement that the criteria laid down by the Conference for the granting of licences to women is exactly the same as that which applies to men. Mrs Cutts went on to win a non-TAB race at Matamata a few weeks later on Kenworthy while Mrs Watson was the first woman to drive a winner when she piloted Hydro Bird at a complete TAB tote meeting in March of 1979. To say that there were others waiting in the wings for their chance to join in on the action might be an understatement as come the end of 1979, there were 1,600 licence holders and more than 50 of them were female. The arrival of a female presence in the sulky in full blown races created a media frenzy at the time. Lorraine Watson, or Grant as she was latterly known, was quoted following her first drive as a fully licenced driver at Methven as saying the most nerve wracking part of the day was immediately after the race when amid the flurry of well-wishers and friends there the inevitable television and radio interviews. "That was worse than the race. I suppose I was a bit shy and worried about what I was going to say. Thank goodness, it only happens once." Watsons presence on the track was also well received by most of her male counterparts and she said many had wished her well. "Of course there will always be those against women drivers, but I was surprised by a lot of the others. Driving is all in the hands and feet, sex makes no difference." Watson of course went on to make history and become the first female driver to compete in the New Zealand Trotting Cup when she drove her own horse, the standout chestnut, Rainbow Patch in Il Vicolo's 1995 edition of the great race. Since that history making day, there have only been eight other occasions where a female has competed in the Cup - showing just how significant Lorraine Grant's, as she was then known, achievement was. Jo Herbert drove in it three times in 1998 (There's A Franco 4th), 2000 (Chloe Hanover 8th) and 2001 (Annie's Boy 12th) but it wasn't to be until Natalie Rasmussen arrived on our shores that the prominence of a female reinswoman in the Cup would become an every year occurrence. Rasmussen drove Vi Et Animo to finish 10th in 2011, then Sushi Sushi into 3rd in 2011 and was joined in that race by Kate Gath who finished 9th with Caribbean Blaster. Gath returned with Lauren Panella in 2013 and finished 5th with Caribbean Blaster while Panellawas 15th with Suave Stuey Lombo.Rasmussen was the sole female representative in 2014 finishing 9th with Hands Christian before both she and Kerryn Manning flew the flag in 2015. Rasmussen was 5th with Messini and Manning of course broke the hoo doo and became the first female to win the race with Arden Rooney. The funny thing about history though is that its sole purpose is, put simply, to be made. It's something people strive for. They yearn to be history making. And then when it's achieved it's on to the next mission, working full circle once more. The issue often with it though is that once achieved, history can sometimes be easily forgotten. Manning doesn't have to worry about that. A history making female reinswoman since the day she first put her feet into the stays of a sulky - the Great Western native threw her into harness racing immortality. What Manning achieved, and less importantly to us, what Michelle Payne achieved at Flemington a week earlier - will forever change the face of horse racing. No longer are there those lingering doubts of whether or not females can be regarded in the same breathe as some of our leading male drivers - it's all, once and for all, equal terms and open slather with wishes that either the best man, or woman, win. It sounds a little archaic to speak of sexism in horse racing considering that a large proportion of success in both codes has fallen the way of females, whether they be jockeys, drivers or trainers. But the truth of the matter is that in some circles it still exists - even to this day with one hardy soul daring enough to suggest to me prior to the Cup that Manning's best chance to win the Cup was to let one of the "boys" do the driving as the Cup isn't a race for a female to win. Negatively intended or not. That one small sentence still hammered home the viewpoint of some. And only further underlined the significance of what Manning achieved.Not all that long ago it was uncommon to see female drivers out competing on the big stage. Nowdays, here in New Zealand, surnames like Rasmussen, Chilcott, Donnelly, Barclay, Tomlinson, Neal and more recently Ottley, Neilson and Butt have become more and more prominent. In Australia it's more prevalent. Manning leaves the charge, but is ably chased by the likes of Panella, Quinlan, Weidemann, Gath, Turnbull, Miles and Seijka. All totalled here in New Zealand we have 52 licenced female drivers. That number isn't all that dissimilar to what it was back in 1979 but the future is looking bright with a large proportion of those coming through Cadets and Kidz Kartz, being females. And although nowdays it is considered normality there was a time, not that long ago as mentioned above , when the thought of a female out on the track competing against her male counterparts in the sulky seemed an impossible dream. Thankfully we are past that now and some of the best in the business are of the female variety - as Manning showed on the second Tuesday in November and as the likes of Rasmussen shows us week in and week out. So perhaps it's time to change the old saying, cometh the hour, cometh the man. Surely in this day and age , cometh the hour, cometh the man...or woman seems more appropriate?
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    woman drivers

    Bella Button was a pioneer of female drivers from memory, I wrote a story about them all in the wake of Arden Rooney's Cup win, I'll see if I can find it.
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    Inca the stinker

    And a former member of the Plod.
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    mick guerin

    Short answer: Plenty.
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    Oscar Bonavena

    Oscar Bonavena needs two horses to pull out to get a start. As it sits All Cashed Up is the 12th horse, Full Noise is E1 and if nothing changes ON wont even be in the racebook. Probably should have lined up Friday night
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    box seat ,debate on blood spinning

    To be expected from the president of the anti All Stars group..... Neil, give Mark Purdon a ring and ask him how many horses in his stable have had the treatment, I think you'll be shocked at his answer. EDIT: Oh wait, that's right - you hide behind your keyboard like a few of your other mates and throw barbs around and imply absolute rubbish but when faced with the opportunity to speak to some of the people you like to defame and bully online you turn bright red and can't lift your head to look them in the eye.
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    Turn it Up - Congrats

    This many in fact - had a spare 20 minutes at work today..... Group and Listed races won with P Nairn as the trainer and D Butt as the driver. Race classification taken as of the time ie; NZ Trotting Derby was a G2 in 1995. NZ Wins only. Group One Inter Dominion Grand Final – Call Me Now (1995) Dominion Handicap – Call Me Now (1995) & Stig (2008) Rowe Cup – Stig (2013) NZ Trotting FFA – Stig (2008) National Trot – Stig (2012) NZ Trotting Derby – Enthusiast (2000) Northern Trotting Derby – Kahdon (2010) 4YO Ruby – Wilma’s Mate (2017) 2YO Ruby – One Over Da Moon (2013) Group Two NZ Trotting FFA – Call Me Now (1994 & 1995) National Trot – Call Me Now (1995) Canterbury Park Trotting Cup – Above The Stars (1995) Cambridge Trotters’ Flying Mile – Call Me Now (1996) & Stig (2012) NZ Trotting Derby – Above The Stars (1995) Northern Derby – Above The Stars (1995) and Enthusiast (2000) NZ Trotting Oaks – Wilma’s Mate – (2016) NZ Sires’ Stakes Trotting Champs – Hoops (2004) & Kahdon (2010) NZ 2YO Trotting Champs – Special Branch (1998) Group Three Canterbury Park Trotting Cup – Dr Hook (2010) & Stig (2008) & Call Me Now (1994) Ashburton Trotters’ Flying Mile – Stig (2008) City Of Sails Trotting FFA – Stig (2009) Summer Trotting FFA – Stig (2012) NZ 2YO Trotting Stakes – One Over Da Moon (2013) Listed Ashburton Trotters’ Flying Mile – Call Me Now (1994 & 1995) DG Jones Banks Peninsula Trotting Cup – Call Me Now (1994) & Call You Later (2002) Ordeal Trotting Cup – Musgrove (2011) Hambletonian – Above The Stars (1995) & Now Another Look (1998) NZ Sires’ Stakes 3YO Trotting Champs – Enthusiast (2000) PGG Wrightson Yearling Sales 3YO Trotting Champs – Wilma’s Mate (2016) NZ Sires’ Stakes 2YO Trotting Championship – Special Branch (1998) & Shine (1999)