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  1. How does Kate Gourdie become a Board member at Auckland RC. She only became a member of the ARC this year? And She is Manager, Media and Communication for the NZRB. Surely that is a conflict of interests?
  2. Racing101, I think youve missed my point. I reckon Saracino is under rated by the handicappers at 92, like you (I think). By winning three Group Twos (1 in Australia) and beaten small margin in NRM Sprint. He should be closer to 100. Im saying he wasn't re-rated by the NZTR handicappers after his Wellington Guineas win. He got NO points winning the Group Two Wellington Guineas!! Remained on 92. How does that happen? Same for Ugo Foscolo. He has got NO points after winning the 2000 Guineas. Stayed on 78 points after winning a Group One. How?? Regardless of his sale. NZTR handicapper are obliged give rating points to the winner - especially in Group races. In regards to Bonneval. If she was to meet Jon Snow and Gingernuts at WFA, she would be 2kgs less than them. However on the ratings, that have been given by the NZTR handicappers she would get 4.5kgs less than Ginergnuts and 4kg less than Jon Snow. Do you think this is fair? No way is it right that there is 13.5kgs between Bonneval and Nicolleta. Nicolleta beat her once (G3) on level weights, just beaten by Bonneval by a head and less than 4 lengths from Bonneval in the Oaks - that does not equate to 13.5kgs difference. If it does - God help us if you were the handicapper. Even Vople Veloce was under rated by the handicapper at 88, and so she proved today. She won 7 from 8 last season. She won a Group 2, a Group 3 and 2 Listed and could have run in Rating 85 race with 59.5kgs. What a joke that is after what she'd done. Last seasons 3yo's are very poorly rated. They are all over the place, like the past few years. Remember Turn Me Loose (NZTR changed his rating to get into the Group One field at HB - what does that show you),
  3. The rating system is a shambles. Judging the end of season rating system, there seems to be many indescrepencies, especially the open class and age goup catagories. The review of nearly 4800 horses performances rated over 46, indicate a worrying sign of inconsistencies by the NZTR handicappers. Firstly, the open class (100+) has only 16 horses in the classification. Very worrying. The NZTR handicappers seem to drop points too quickly. Especially from horses that run un-suitable distances, shows that they dont take this into consideration. eg. Miss Three Stars lost 2 points running midfield in the NZ Cup (3200m) when second topweight. Another annoyance is the handicappers not re-rating horses straight after races, especially Group races. Three-year-old's Gingernuts and Jon Snow seem far too highly rated at 105 and 104 and NZ and ATC Oaks winner Bonneval is the next three year old at 100. These three were rated after returning from Australia, so we dont know how the NZTR handicappers rated their domestic Group wins individually. Saracino is another example of this. In his last start in NZ, Saracino won the Group Two Wellington Guineas back in March, but the NZTR handicappers haven't rated his Guineas win; and remains on 92. He raced once in Randwick after his Trentham win. While there is no disagreement that Bonneval was last season's top three-year-old filly, being rated 100 does seem abit high in comparison to other fillies of her year. Her stablemate Nicolleta, rated as low as 73 - 13.5kgs inferior. Nicolleta beat Bonneval (3rd) in a Group 3 at Hastings, then Bonneval got the better at their next start by a head. Bonneval then beat Nicolleta by 2.5 lengths in the NZ Oaks (then won the ATC Oaks), but does this equate to a 13.5kg? Again, we dont know how many points Bonneval got from winning the NZ Oaks, she was re-rated after she returned from Australia. 2000 Guineas winner Ugo Foscolo is another that wasn't re-rated after his feature win at Riccarton. There are far too many other indescrepencies to mention.
  4. Consensus and Thee Auld Floozie won the races in Hasselhoof last two starts in the better fields (than the Rich Hill). Consensus won the G1 Zabeel Classic. He was just a average over-hyped and over-rated horse.
  5. Going by this and your other postings Berlog - your a Logan supporter. Id rather have Consensus and Thee Auld Floozie any day than Hasselhoof. He was just a average horse. Well placed in races he won.
  6. Can anyone explain why the TAB doesn't commingle with Singapore? The TAB pools are disgraceful. Why would you have a bet! With all the New Zealand horses, trainers, owners racing there, it doesn't make sense that it isnt commingled.
  7. This was reported on Sunday after the race Kiwi trainer David Miller wins Busan Mayor's Cup in Korea Today, I see NZTR reported The victory in the final leg of the Korean Group One Triple Crown series represented a major achievement for Miller. It was Group 3 and not a Triple Crown race, It was 3rd leg of Stayer Series
  8. With the rapid decline of newspaper supplement for racing, do many use social media for Racing info; like twitter?
  9. I see Friday Flash wrote an article about this and the Racing Board refused to comment. http://thefridayflash.com/nz_gallops_news/view/17721/tab_website_crashes_again
  10. Here's a recording of tonights presentation. 1 hour 30 mins. Sorry for the low quality of sound. Special mentions TAB 20% Reductions compared to Australias 5%: 33 mins JA-Cost structure has to come down: 53:50 min BUT Operating costs has gone up 0.8% for half year (this wont include high salaried employees eg Michele Pickles and others that start in May) (Over 140 employees on over $100,000 per year) What do they do all year? Staff expenses for 2016 were $66 million for 2016. Up $3.1million from 2015 3.Saving in staff costs after Paddy Power : 1:06. JA- The Betting team has been growing significally (doesnt sound like any terminations) On 51:48 surely theres terminations/cuts after PP? 4. What are the figures/estimation of NZRB have lost with the closure of the phone betting? 29:35min JA-We modelled losing 18%. We have lost 10-12% What is the ACTUAL AMOUNT OF MONEY LOST? NOT percentages!!! Voice 001.m4a