Dopey

Yes, just arrived from a northern hemisphere service effort? still looking very much the race horse.

So where did we get to with....if you own an iffraaj mare - what are the suggested sire mating thoughts. Obviously commands is dead (melody belle) and wasn't in nz. Danehill line / Street cry! Or

Totally agree, sham looks to have a lot of Grosvenor about him and jakk is classic class from a top family.

Both Shamexpress and Jakkalberry sold well at the sales in their first year.

Yes here is this years new season sires

I have cut and paste the Arion contenders for first season sire honours - being number of winners based. I'll stick my neck out to start and say: 1. Shamexpress (many went to auzzie and lower numbers - (lots of Grosvenor in him imo but he did sprint! 2. Jakkalberry (I think will have speed early enough) and they have class there may be others not on the list ?

Jakkalberry Is one. Rip van winkle might suit

From my experience breeding to him I agree with your premise that he does not suit big mares

Only stakewinner (early days) is by commands.

Berri, we know you views, which are well respected, now let's hear from HH88. Move in to another thread if it's annoying you.

Check out Jane Avril (cwj) being chopped out of the race near the turn.

I'd be interested in his ave sales results vs his peer group - Per Incanto may look much better in that regard. SCing has two hemispheres helping his stakes performers numbers but has done particularly well in that regard

crétin

Sir Ivor is also inbred 5x5 to the great influential broodmare Plucky Liege

His weanlings were passed at the Melbourne sale and were not wanted.

Personally I like the royal charger / Mahmoud no 9 family and Blenheim influence. I'd say it the 1 and 9 families - Selene gaining influence from from canterbury pilgrim (no 1 family thru her sire Chaucer) tieing in nicely with the prolific no 1 family lines in turn to

Selene and princequillo

Selene and princequillo

Dump dee Doo

I think you will find It's a nomination

Try an iffraaj mare out of a zabeel mare

Puha thinks winning and good stakes are a yawn.

Enjoyed winning my $20000+ maiden at pakenham week before last and as you say the divi was excellent. Keep going Nz. Keep going.

I think what breeder is saying is that some mares repeatably leave top horses so it's a way to buy a future for your stallion in those early years.