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  1. 9 points
    Midget

    ~ R2 Ellerslie...

    I will reply to this a later date, but to give some idea what i think,The JCA AND THE RIU MUST BE REPLACED, THIS IS CRIMINAL. I will lose my licence if this comes about,but this is the worst decision i have seen and i will voice my opinion and being a licence holder,i am up tp lose it,but i did it once before and won the case, i will make sure justice is done,i will read all reports and then i will put my opinion up to make sure justice is done, unbelievable this has happened. have a look at the winner's ears pricked 50m before the line.The best horse won without a doubt.
  2. 8 points
    Fortuna

    Te Akau Thread

    Firstly, some disclosure - David Ellis started selecting horse for me in 2003 in my personal capacity and since 2007 has been selecting horses for my Syndication company Fortuna. The original poster, Steve, seemed to focus on the outcomes of the horses, particularly the high priced horses, that David Ellis has bought over the years. I personally think that is the wrong approach. If David Ellis purchases a high priced, well bred Colt, for say $500k to $1m plus and sells all the shares in that syndicate within a few days (as he does) then to my mind that is "willing buyer, willing seller" - I am sure that every person who takes a share in that particular syndicate is under no illusions as to the risk or range of potential outcomes. It is "speculation" not "investment". Buy into a $1m Colt who can win Group One races in NZ and Australia and the Colt could potentially be syndicated to Stud in Aus for A$30m - that is the reality of it - the fact that that may not happen at all (i.e the Colt has no or limited ability, needs to be gelded or is successfully Syndicated to Stud but at a much lower figure) is a risk that everyone understands. As other posters have already commented, if you examined the records of other organisations around the world that target high priced Colts, you may well find similar outcomes. Steve I think would be better to focus on Te Akau Racing's achievements as a training establishment. After all, it is one thing to select and buy the horses, it is another thing to train and manage them successfully, particularly for a large training organisation like Te Akau. The best way of doing that is to look at Strike Rates and Group and Listed Race success. The Te Akau Strike Rate has for four of the past five seasons been under 6 and is one of the leading Trainers by Strike Rate, if not the leader, from the top 20 trainers. And on the Group/Listed Winner scale, it has been one of the dominant training organisations over many seasons. Its current NZ Trainer, Jamie Richards, has already won a Training Premiership (in partnership with Stephen Autridge) and has finished either 2nd or 3rd in each of the past three seasons. Te Akau's Singapore based Trainer, Mark Walker won five NZ Premierships for Te Akau, has won two more Premierships for them in Singapore and is about to be crowned with a 3rd for the current season (which ends this Sunday 8th December). This means that any Owner who has a horse being trained by Te Akau Racing, whether as a private owner or a Member of a Te Akau or Fortuna Syndicate, can take a lot of comfort knowing that their horse is in very good hands. Finally, other posters have speculated on the success or otherwise of the various NZ and Aus based syndicators - it can be difficult to glean this information from the various racing websites but Fortuna is very proud of its NZ/Aus strike rate, which in the current season is running at 2.78 (9 wins from 25 starts) and since 1st August 2016 3.31 (35 wins from 116 starts. All of the Fortuna horses in NZ bar one (Highly Likely trained by Kevin Myers), are trained by Te Akau Racing - we certainly don't have anything to complain about with our choice of Trainer. On the subject of Strike Rate, it would be great if someone was able to compose a table of the NZ/Aus based syndicators and make available for the marketplace to view - such as the Trainers table on the Love Racing website - perhaps Steve could put his hand up for that task.
  3. 6 points
    We're Doomed

    Te Akau Thread

    That isn't entirely correct. Both the Karaka 2yo and 3yo races receive $250,000 of industry funding. $50,000 is the minimum stakes funding for the day and $200,000 is from the Iconic Race Funding pool. The $200,000 per race is far and away the second highest amount allocated to any race after the Derby. So whereas some people might think those sales series races are somehow funded by the sales company and sweepstakes payments from the purchasers, they actually receive $500,000 of industry money between them. It could be argued that it is a dubious use of $500,000 of scarce industry funds to be supporting races that are such a closed shop that they aren't even eligible for group status.
  4. 6 points
    Boss Hogg

    Racing Problems Solved

    Hi Racecafatarians You are wondering what a machine like this is doing on a racing web site ,well let me explain. We were at a garage sale in Whitianga on Sunday and this doozie of a machine was there .The garage sale man told me it was a turf aerator used at Bowling clubs and racecourses ,really !! So that got me thinking this could be the answer to racing clubs problems .I sure some of you have already identified this aerator as the Mark 2 x 7 head super model not the old cumbersome Mark 1 x 6 head model. Now this is how I see this scenario plays out.On the morning of the races when the track manager arrives and decides its to wet to race , he informs the racing club of the problem. But hey now its not as bad because they ring me on 0800 AERATOR and in a flash I'm there at the top of the straight starting to work wonders on the problem.I won't start on the bend as I'm not sure how this Super 7 model corners. As the crowds arrive at the races they can look up the track and can rest easy knowing that all is being done to make their day a happy one. This Aeratoring takes a while so I will have my 6pack of Speights with me .This is a concern as trying to keep it in a straight line becomes trickie. On completion of work which it is now Tuesday and I have know one here to give my invoice to only the track manager who is now picking up the empty Speights bottles and trying to strangle me. Well there is a few little problems to iron out, And I know about the drinking but I think there could be a place for my Mark2 x 7 Head Super model .Perhaps if it was a ride on ,well back to my shed to build the Mark 3 x 10 head Super ride on, now were did I leave my Speights.CheersBH
  5. 5 points
    NeilD

    Last 600m times

    Sorted now. It was a data entry error.
  6. 5 points
    Stables

    More Inca charges dropped

    The RIU are pressing charges against many of the accused that have had their criminal charges dropped. This is grossly unfair and in my opinion unscrupulous and malicious. Where is the decency and justice iin filing charges against people who have had charges dropped, due to no evidence, in a higher court. Talk about double jeapordy
  7. 4 points
    Trump

    Te Akau Thread

    I have a niece who wouldn’t have known a horse’s head from its tail, no idea of the racing game (other than go once a year and socialise with friends over a glass Or 3 of bubbly etc), probably she has not been to a horse sale and probably thinks Karaka is an imported fireworks from China! Anyway, friends talked her into “investing/speculating” into owning a racehorse, so she “invested” a fingernail in the smallest share - in a Te Akau syndicate. It was her first “speculation”. Name of the horse was? GINGERNUTS. Winner of the 2017 NZ Derby. Ask her what “she” thinks of horse racing, Syndication, Te Akau etc!
  8. 4 points
    shaneMcAlister

    Te Akau Thread

    Hindsight is 20:20 and if SD had his time again he may have better using a more neutral name when investigating returns on purchases for racehorses. That was where SD wrong ended. However I think we all know this game is a cash burner, I have a spreadsheet of my spend and it is not pretty (but a lot of fun). Stock reviewers analyse stock brokers daily. That's the game. KFE left a message on SD phone in a temper and told him she had been to the police. SD tried to get a in contact with TA or its representatives to clear this up. SD posted his messages etc on here and offered a donation of $10K to womens refuge if this was not correct. This post got removed for whatever reason?? This thread was 61 last night and now 55 this morning. Let Leo can have his name calling posts kept. I personally have never called Leo anything, but have been subject to his unwarranted abuse. Water off a ducks back to me.
  9. 3 points
    flockofewes2

    ~ R2 Ellerslie...

    Protest upheld reminds me why betting on NZ races is ...laughable. The new winner had every chance to run the leader down and was not good enough.Tangerine dreams ...indeed.
  10. 3 points
    arjay

    5 years Karaka data

    Makes depressing reading. The only happy people would be the under bidders, thanks Shane
  11. 3 points
    tim vince

    Te Akau Thread

    Where I was bought up they did it for fun
  12. 3 points
    Red Rum

    Te Akau Thread

    In isolation the figures shown on that Twitter thing show eye watering amounts of loss , but its a small sample of only racetrack earnings .Maybe it's perspective , and iam not doing the John Cleese i was brought up in shoe box thing but where I was brought up people get a knife in face for a fiver and that's no bullshit so however much I get in bank or how much property i get a cold hard fiver still means something to me , my family take piss out me because of it but they have no idea thankfully . I think another angle would be income as a whole over period of years . Selling Torcedor , wow good business , syndicating for stud DarcI Brahma, Embellish , Burgundy good business , the many wins at top level, MB TAS brilliant , maybe Motueka River running in a dust cloud at Backwater Downs not so good , but that's the game , I really like Mr Galvin's description , speculation .I am sure TA and the other syndicators have also provided some lifelong memories for plenty . I suppose as well different people take things differently , I go races or bookies with my mates and have a bad day on punt , they don't sooth me with kind words they mercilessly take the mick with absolutely no sympathy . Maybe I should find kinder mates .
  13. 3 points
    Boss Hogg

    Te Akau Thread

    Hi Red , yeah a bit off the subject I know but the race track is in Mitchell central QLD has a great pub stayed just out of town the races are for one day but never there on race day . Up the road just a 6 hour drive is Emerald begrudgingly stayed at camp ground owner gave us tickets to races and drove us out to track brilliant day on course bookies and intertrack betting after the last race the club had free drinks in the main members bar for an hour and then put on transport back to pub .How good is that ? Cheers BH
  14. 3 points
    poundforpound

    Te Akau Thread

    Free speech doesn’t include harassing women behind the scenes, and bringing a toxic agenda to the table Critical analysis should be across the range of the sector you’re examining anyway....if you’re going to dissect Te Akau ( as is your right ) do it on a compare and contrast basis with all syndicators and agents ......apples with apples......
  15. 3 points
    Midget

    ~ R2 Ellerslie...

    I must say, none of the connections of Te Akau Racing had any input into this relegation or inquiry I am told that the rider was quoted as saying, we were beaten on our merits. If this was the case then surely it is time to have a serious look at the competency of the RIU and the JCA in this instance. This is not good enough in my opinion.
  16. 3 points
    richie

    Colin Reeves

    Ex Jockey and my uncle Colin Reeves passed away on Friday. Some older "cafers" may remember Colin from the 60s/70s.Colin was based around Timaru and Ashburton and rode for many good stables of the time. He was a very good apprentice and rode both flat and jumping races.Rode a few winners in some of the better winter carnivals and was top SI apprentice one year. Unfortunately Colin had a chequered career and was dogged by weight and alcohol problems,after a couple of assault charges at different racecources he was banned from all racecourses in NZ..After retiring as a Jockey he lead a colorful life with stints on the run from police and subsequently a couple of lags in the klink.He worked until 70 as couldn't afford not too and retired to Taumaranui a few years ago.Unfortunately his life was controlled by alcohol and shagging.Alcohol ruined his first marriage and since then he has left quite a few kids to a lot different woman. RIP Colin
  17. 3 points
    The Major

    More Inca charges dropped

    Imagine what things would look like if extramarital affairs were illegal!!!!
  18. 3 points
    I think the point RR is making is that you need a set of data to make decisions about ratings. I am a teacher, in charge of literacy at my school. When we try to find out if student X needs extra reading help we get as many data sets as possible, to see if they line up. Once we have 'franked the form', and confirmed our hunch, then we act. Something similar applies with these ratings which can be very useful.
  19. 3 points
    Midget

    ~ R2 Ellerslie...

    I have watched the replay 30 plus times and I feel sick for the connections and it is beyond belief there was a reversal of placings. The onus has always been that any horse promoted, must be in all likelihood, would have finished in front of the interfered horse . Clearly, on this occasion, that is NOT THE CASE. In the Stewards report, it states the interference happened inside the last 100m,I believe the minimal interference happened inside the last 20m when Taroni was looking at the winning post and lost concentration...Bordequx Le Rouge and Taroni has been together almost the entire race and were head to head at the straight entrance and yet despite Taroni getting on one rein and having a big bo-peep at the winning post, she never looked like getting beaten and had her ears pricked at the winning post. i would say that this decision is even worse than the relegation of Magic Briar and that takes some doing. Lee is it possible to run a poll to get Cafer's opinions on this wrongful decision. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and that is the only way some justice can be seen to be done on this tragic and unjust relegation.
  20. 3 points
    there have been results alright Gruffy - Mrs. vS asked me if she was the only one I had slept with - I said yes.... all the others were nines or tens I should be out of hospital soon !
  21. 2 points
    frankie

    1700m Races

    Certain stables have got away with obvious team driving for years. It's not an even playing field and the stipes in my opinion are morons.
  22. 2 points
    6xes

    Measles

    In the country of Origin where this measles outbreak has been taking place... what is occurring in the political circles, especially regarding minister of health, national security and current foreign matters the country is facing that of its political leaders.. i raise this question as i wonder if there is a correlation between. is anything ever random!!??
  23. 2 points
    arjay

    Te Akau Thread

    Poof, thread did not suit some for sure. However spend big does not mean win big, bit like having a bet, no certainties. Thought the thread should have stayed, no such thing as free speech?
  24. 2 points
    poundforpound

    Colin Reeves

    Sounds like a good life well lived, particularly in the later years. Rest easy fella.
  25. 2 points
    eljay

    More Inca charges dropped

    If it got too hot for the RIU I suppose Winston could disband them and create a new body - sort of like Bankrupting them