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  1. 7 points
    fermoy

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    My horses have raced at Ellerslie,Riccarton,Trentham,Awapuni,Ashburton,New Plymouth,Tauherenikau,Otaki,Te Rapa,Gisborne,Woodville,Hawera,Waipukurau,Wanganui,Feilding,Waverley,Wairoa,Blenheim and Hastings. My top 6 would be Tauherenikau,Gisborne,Waipukurau,Waverley,Wairoa,Blenheim with a special mention to Awapuni's specially dedicated all day access Wellfield Lodge/NZ Racing owners room for anyone who has a horse racing that day where you get a dedicated tote operator,free tea and coffee,subsidised bar and buffet meal,numerous leather couches,window leaners and stools,ample tables and chairs and plenty of TV's etc. This owners room should be replicated on all NZ race tracks.
  2. 7 points
    Ponderosa8

    How did that name get through

    So they obviously didnt try and re-register as Pharr Cough then...
  3. 6 points
    Those smaller clubs used to waste far too much money encouraging owners and trainers. Much better their courses get sold up and the money given to the metropolitan clubs who know how to run a slick operation without encouraging excess drinking and fraternizing.
  4. 5 points
    scooby3051

    RITA 6 Month Results

    But NONE have gone yet...it seems its taking a long time to get their snouts out of the trough..all the minows were dealt to swiftly..why not the other end too???
  5. 5 points
    Insider

    Trials

    a] When will we know where the trials will be hold in the North during September? b] Will trials still be held at Te Teko? c] Te Awamutu have trials scheduled for 25 August! d] What's the difference between the status of Te Teko and Te Awamutu? Official racing wont take place at either venue going forward, but trials are scheduled for one but not the other. What gives? I know where I would rather trial in August/September, and it certainly isn't Te Awamutu irrespective of the transport costs. Come in Bernard Saundry, the Trainers Association and the Owner Association. Clarity is needed given that I am paying $3000 + per month, not knowing what is happening.
  6. 5 points
    Don't You Believe It

    RITA 6 Month Results

    Because they only made $75m while they paid out $88m - i.e. they are giving more to the codes than they are making. False economics and the merry-go-round has stopped now with Covid in the 2nd half year. Desperate times. Thanks John Allen (and Bayliss, Brown, Hansen).
  7. 5 points
    We're Doomed

    CHCH Noms not left open

    At a time when the powers that be are trying to close down all of the small innovative clubs and pour all of the resources into a chosen few, the lack of leadership and imagination shown by the chosen few is very disappointing; but sadly not at all surprising. You do wonder after all the effort that has been put into eliminating so many smaller clubs whether rita and NZTR have given the bigger clubs the message that they really have to lift their game and they can't expect to just have everything handed to them on a plate. Can anyone name the last innovative race the CJC has initiated? What is Canterbury's equivalent of the Everest? As far as I can recall, the last four or five feature races the CJC has added to their schedule have all been inherited from other clubs.
  8. 5 points
    nomates

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    Waverley does a fantastic job , plenty to eat and drink in their owners room . Stratford at their new years eve meeting used to have free steak sarnies going most of the day for all the stable hands and trainers , looking after the workers at a busy time of year ..
  9. 5 points
    Mikie

    Today's meeting

    If the Organised Crime Unit had any spare microphones after Inca Knock Knock (10.30am-ish) Are you free Dean? Not really Phoebe, I have to go see Bernard, apart from those delicious sausage rolls he has Apple Turnovers today. Why, what do you want? (Phoebe) Those guys from HRNZ are here to see you, they have an appointment at 10.40am, I wrote it in your Diary Damn Phoebe, I haven't had time to look at today's Diary. Who is here? (Phoebe) There's a Ken, a Colin and a guy I've never heard of before, he's Peter or Paul (or Mary) or something (Dean) You mean Phil? The golfer? (Phoebe) Tautarangi? No Phoebe, aw hell, his last name escapes me. I'm sure it's Phil but I'll cover, I'll just call him buddy while he's here. But you'll need to cover for me, I'll slip out the back and see Bernard, tell them I'm on a conference call with Paddy Power and Winston and that I'll be free by 11am (Phoebe) No worries Dean ....... ..... ..... 11.30am (Dean) Come in, come in Ken, Colin and buddy, how are you. Sorry for the delay. Busy times, busy times. You know how it goes. Tell me, what can I do for you? (Ken) Well Dean, we're here about this Forbury lot. (Dean) I see, I see ......... Silence Embarrassing silence (Dean) Well, what about them? (Ken) Well, you know, we consulted them by ringing them twice and we told them they can't race any more and when the Dates came out RITA gave them another 10 race days. We look like eggs. Then to make it worse we gave every Club our submissions so they all knew we looked like eggs. Then we issued a Release saying we were caught by surprise by them getting dates which back-fired a bit, made us look like were eggs who didn't know what was happening. (Dean) Ah I see. I remember now. We didn't make you look like eggs on purpose guys. Bernard rang me on Thursday about Avondale and the Forbury dates were a consequence of that phone call (Ken) But we didn't know Dean, and now we've told everyone we didn't know, so now like I said, we look like eggs (Dean) Not on purpose Ken, not on purpose. Just horrible timing, Bernard called me on a Thursday and buddy wasn't due back at work until Wednesday so we were stuffed, couldn't give you any warning (Colin) Fair enough Dean, we understand. We have fixed this moving forward, if you want to get hold of Phil on a Friday or a Monday you can ring the Golf Club and leave a message, Phil has said he will be only too happy to call you back after his round ends (Dean) Well, that's decent of you buddy, that will make things easier moving forward. Anything else? (Ken) Well yes Dean, on the way in we saw Bernard and we had a chat about Code funding. He said he has done his best for us but the most he can let us have is 18.5% of what you've allocated. (Dean) Isn't that enough chaps? (Colin) Well Dean, it means we will have to run races for under $6000 quite a lot (Dean) Well, that doesn't sound too bad Colin, $6000 is a decent winning stake (Colin) No, no Dean. $6000 total stake (Dean) Buga, that sounds low, what should we do about it? ......... ........... ............. Embarrassing silence (pHIL) Eureka, I've got it guys. We will ask some Clubs to race without any funding which will leave more for other Clubs (Ken) Ummm, Phil, you thought of that a couple of weeks ago. The Clubs didn't think it would work. Remember? ...... ...... ....... (Phil) Eureka, I've got it. We will slash the number of races by 50%, that will meant the funding for the remaining 50% will double. Then the stakes will go up (Ken, Colin) Wow, no wonder you can do the CEO's job in 2/5th's of the time anyone else can Phil. You're a bloody genius (Dean) Okayyyyyyy
  10. 4 points
    Never in my life I have seen a more pathetic display of prelims than the 1st at Ellerslie !! Yeh, looking up horses dates as they run away from you , whoever came up with that idea needs castrating , without anaesthetic , what an absolute waste of time , very very disappointing
  11. 4 points
    nomates

    Ellerslie Preliminaries WTF !!

    I,m surprised they are still showing prelim's , i'm sure they must be able to squeeze in yak race from outer Mongolia in that amount of spare time , so i'm be grateful for what we're getting .
  12. 4 points
    Good news for punters - RaceForm, including Best Bets, will be back in time for the new season. https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/ryans-treat-for-punters-raceform-back-in-time-for-the-new-season/
  13. 4 points
    We're Doomed

    New season stakes

    Programmes out now for August and Sept and stakes expected to be similar to last year. Bit of a worry that a lot of SI meetings have only 7 races programmed. There are going to be a lot of horses eliminated. Personally I would rather have seen 65s running for $20,000 and open horses for $32,000 and use the extra money to programme some decent 10 race cards, and perhaps a few extra meetings.
  14. 4 points
    nomates

    Ascot Park V's Phar Lap

    Trying to reinvent the wheel trying to put a race meeting on at Ascot Park during winter , 90% of the horses i reckon will have to travel hours as you say , and why would you when you have Ricc and Timaru . Oamaru has been the go to track for winter racing in the lower South Island for years , for a reason , but no , their going to try and get a round peg into a square hole . This just sums up the whole illogical thought processes used by our esteemed leaders .
  15. 4 points
    Perhaps take on the Auckland trotting club as a consultant, they have quite a bit of useful experience in that field.
  16. 4 points
    uneasy

    CHCH Noms not left open

    You get stifled at every opportunity-there is leadership by dictatorship I spoke to Langan, Mills, Aldridge and co and was told that the club chose not to run a 2 and 3 yr old event. Jim Langan didn’t realise there were so many (34) available FFS The open 1200 has to be split those eliminated from the 1400 and 1000m would then have the option to revert to the 1200 Thats how I would do it but I’m only an annoying horse trainer with some commonsense
  17. 4 points
    Baz (NZ)

    Riccarton Handicapping Error?

    So has the handicapper been Fined? Anyone Sacked? Any of the Suits fallen on their swords? Anyone been David Clarked ? Anyone Resigned because they're an unhelpful distraction? Just asking for another fiend.
  18. 4 points
    We're Doomed

    Handicapping Clusterfxxk again

    That Auckland starter who made the cock up did experience fairly severe repercussions. Not sure whether Fiend was just a spelling mistake or you really do know a demon.
  19. 4 points
    nomates

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    By the way Tony , congrats on the stables form . Takes a big man to step back and let the daughter have a crack . I'm sure your still having a large input tho .
  20. 4 points
    Dennis Ryan assures me they will be and the missing Pukekohe day will be included.
  21. 4 points
    Jackal

    Nigel McGrath

    All the apologists conspicuously absent now. Nasty old RIU caught a cheat. How dare they...bullies !! But I’m sure the Judicial Committee of JCA are crooks too now !! Wonder if HRNZ chair who proudly supported this bloke will now indulge in some self reflection about their suitability for the role ?
  22. 3 points
    Scallywag

    oamaru jockey club .....cup bonus

    Oamaru club VERY DISAPPOINTED told pre locked down they would not be racing june or july ...over the last two seasons oamaru ran a bonus for any horse to win the oamaru cup and the winter cup .......60 k last year....during the week the winter cup is reinstated.....and new dates announced.....timaru racing club were granted the oamaru date''''..the 19th of july'''..........you would have thought if common sense had come into it'..oamaru should have kept their date .....and one horse and connections would have started in the winter cup going round for 120k......if BRAINS WERE DYNAMITE THEY WOULDNT HAVE ENOUGH TO BLOW THEIR NOSE....... Isnt Messara a woman's makeup? Isn't Winnie a horse's neigh?...........
  23. 3 points
    I dont live down that way but the difficulties that Race got into I believe was getting involved in building and development. Bob Jones says all developers go broke. I have been a builder and developer and got caught on two specs but many were good and I kept the shirt on. Awapuni built a new stand then got into land development then got hit with a recession. Result sections didnt sell (and really was there a market for them at the time) But a perfect storm nonetheless. Lesson - Clubs should not get involved in things where they dont have the expertise. Land agents and banks are skimmers and take no risk. They can talk the unwary into unwise actions, in fact clubs are sitting ducks. And there is no accountability and that is the major flaw.
  24. 3 points
    nomates

    RITA 6 Month Results

    There's no teeth left . Still waiting for someone , anyone , been asking this question for a while , to show exactly which tracks/clubs , and for how much each of these clubs has been "sucking the industry dry " . Just the names and figures will do . Don't need rhetoric . The 2 clubs i know of do it almost exclusively thru volunteer effort and grants , got nothing to do with NZTR/RITA . If they have ever got anything it certainly wasn't helping to suck the industry dry .
  25. 3 points
    nomates

    CHCH Noms not left open

    Well Soliloquy , not sure if you are a regular or not , so not sure if you read most threads and therefor are conversant with the raft of decisions made regarding the industry . i'll assume not otherwise you would have seen the raft of decisions made by RITA/NZTR regarding the racing industry , all basically dropped over a week , i hope they took longer than that to come up with them , they were , - Race dates dropped , and some clubs given none , this included harness . - Commentators , in the north island G Simon and A White to do all gallops, harness , greyhounds . The rest let go . - Studio and on course presenters , on course presenters gone except 20 premium meetings per year , 1 in studio presenter the rest of the time . -Newspaper liftouts and Raceform finished . - No in running commentaries for form lines to be discontinued . - Removal of tote operators and replaced with self serve machines . Probably a couple of others if i searched , but these are the ones off the top of my head that for you i will call reversal of decisions . That is what the definition of a backflip is . - Race dates , Avondale reinstated with 5 days , as well some southern clubs that had lost dates . BACKFLIP . Harness was even bigger . - Commentators , T Lee still working , probably will end up staying on , whilst not a genuine BACKFLIP , the fact that other commentators are still working shows that 2 commentators was never workable . So in my book they haven't held their line so , BACKFLIP . - Studio and on course presenters , so far haven't seen a Saturday with less than 2 presenters , actually had three last Saturday for 2 meetings . BACKFLIP . - In running commentaries , now reinstated going forward . BACKFLIP . - Newspaper and Raceform , well Raceform back , how much of that due to the above form being available , how long till some form of newspaper coverage ? My monies on something happening there also . I'll give you this one , at the moment . - Removal of tote operators , well you've covered that one yourself , but , BACKFLIP . So we have a couple , but my point is these were decisions obviously made with very little thought or plan , by people who simply don't understand their product , or clients and participants , with no consultation process to help make an informed decision . You simply don't make this many changes that you have to then BACKFLIP on , even partially , if you have a well informed , well thought out and cohesive plan . Not just grasping at straws . As for the noms situation you only have to look at the number of OWNERS whose horse have missed getting a start when nominated , at all meetings since the resumption . Even this week's meetings , look at the number that have missed a run along with the number of ballots that are going to miss out . I use owners missing a run as they are the ones footing the bill , the horses are ambivalent . Finally as to your final paragraph regarding our organizations putting out plans but they get pulled apart by different , possibly self interested parties , i'm not going to argue with some disagreement within codes , but please if you know where the current plan for the future can be found would you please let me know , actually if you can show me any plan , and i mean a cohesive , intelligent , well thought out consultative plan for going forward and growing from any time in recent history i would be grateful . Until they come up with even a short term plan they leave themselves open for the criticism they receive . Cheers .
  26. 3 points
    Tony

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    An owner with a horse in races 2 and 4 goes to the races. They have had an email saying that they could collect 2 complimentary drinks tickets per horse on the day. The owner watches both horses and is chatting with people having a great time. After race 5 they decide to go and collect their complimentary drinks tickets and are asked " and what races are your horses in". The owner replys "oh they were in race 2 and race 4" That's when the person in charge of handing out the complimentary tickets says "I'm sorry but those tickets are no longer available because those races have been" Yes this actually happened at Awapuni on Saturday. This is taking penny pinching to the extreme.
  27. 3 points
    We're Doomed

    CHCH Noms not left open

    Surely they will split at least one race. It really is time the trainers stood up for themselves, no one else seems capable of doing anything. There is absolutely no imagination or leadership in SI racing. There is so much potential for racing in the South, but it is so poorly run.
  28. 3 points
    Stables

    CHCH Noms not left open

    Dingle, there is a closing time for nominations, you should abide by it. Too many trainers sit back anticipating the nomination time will be extended, so they can study the entries and decide which race would best suit their horse(s)
  29. 3 points
    nomates

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    Don't have to work too hard keeping excess drinking and fraternizing down when there is bugger all patrons on course most of the time . The smaller clubs as a rule get good on course patronage , but the spoiler police can't see it with their tinfoil hats on .
  30. 3 points
    Catalano

    Handicapping Clusterfxxk again

    I see what you did there
  31. 3 points
    poundforpound

    Racing Integrity Unit

    Certainly no problem for me FYI Operation Inca charged me with a criminal offence because I told the truth about this matter...and I suspect because I was an expert witness for two defendants.. I’ve got a lot more truth to tell yet but I’ll bide my time until Judge Neave completes his dismantling of this case ... now Inca has withdrawn the charges against me, not that they bothered me anyway.....it’s hard to intimidate someone who’s just being brutally honest and mocking your incompetence Besides, the RIU effectively breached the suppression orders when they immediately suspended the licenses of all those charged, after the media had announced in advance what was about to unfold...before those charges had even entered a plea... so charge the RIU, why don’t you ? This whole Inca exercise is a disgrace and in terms of abusing the principles of justice and wasting Police resources it’s rivalled only by the Teina Pora murder conviction, which like this “persecution” had absolutely no solid evidence to back it up Note to team Inca... don’t bother threatening me again... I have the right to free speech and your attempted intimidation & bullying of me is only adding to the narrative, in a less than positive way
  32. 3 points
    Huey

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    Happens at a lot of tracks in my experience, once again the problem is because you have people running an industry that don't really understand how it operates. A lot of people in this racing game do horses themselves and after they have raced win,lose or draw they have to take care of the needs of the animal and don't get the opportunity to go and have a refreshment straight away and are then met with this kind of nonsense. They really only seem to be setup for the syndicates who only race the horse. I have found most country clubs to be very good and one of the worst in my opinion at this type of behaviour is Trentham which is usually a very average experience for such a wonderful track.
  33. 3 points
    Just effing unbelievable in this current climate . Not just dumb public relations for your owners but complete disrespect to all owners . It comes across as miserly . When as an industry we are struggling to keep existing owners and trying to attract new ones , they should be falling over themselves to look after owners , not try and save a few bucks . So i am assuming owners of horses in the first to races , run before lunch were expected to start drinking before lunchtime . Without owners there is no horse racing .
  34. 3 points
    No it's really me Mike. The problems we are having with the Management of HRNZ at both Executive and Board level stem from the system that the industry operates under. The decision makers all the way through are at Committee level from the Clubs to the Board of HRNZ. The people that have real skin in the game like Trainers, owners, drivers and breeders have no input into the management of their industry. If a committee person or a Board member make wrong or poor decisions it has no real effect on them. If it's bad enough they might have to resign their position. The people who have a considerable financial investment in the industry can't just walk away, however. Those decisions effect their livelihood. It's time that people are called to account for their poor decisions and it's time that people with large investments in the industry were given representation at Board level. The cry of the rebellious Americans in their war of independence was No taxation without representation. Why should owners , trainers and breeders pay anything to HRNZ without representation at board level. The decision making process would be considerably enhanced if it effected your livelihood
  35. 3 points
    Ponderosa8

    How did that name get through

    Thunderbirds used to be one of my favourite programs, and remember the driver Brains. This is a quietly kept secret and not a well known fact, but Claudia Schiffer married him and now her name is Claudia Schiffer-Brains.
  36. 3 points
    We're Doomed

    New season stakes

    Bloody hell Leggy. Don't do that to me. I just got the shock of my life. Giving a meeting to the Phar Lap raceway. Bloody hell. That just screams so much common sense, makes you wonder if they have employed someone with a brain.
  37. 3 points
    weasel57

    How did that name get through

    In another state of the USA there once lived a cousin of Henry Newton, one Mr Kennneth Pharr, whose father met and married a Chinese woman, Miss Ah-so, while working on building the Rocky Mountain railroad. They named a railroad tunnel after their first-born - Pharr, Ken Ah-so.
  38. 3 points
    JJ Flash

    Bloody hell Phil

    If you are referring to HRNZ its the Phil and Ken show. the latter is well out of his depth and has been a for quite some time. His support of McGrath showed poor judgement and his handling of this matter terrible IMHO. How anyone could take him seriously in future is nearing beyond belief. Greg
  39. 2 points
    Trump

    Ellerslie Preliminaries WTF !!

    No need to worry. The Manager of the Dept responsible will review the days activities and where necessary, severely reprimand those who are responsible for such poor work. Guaranteed! That’s what a professional organisation does.
  40. 2 points
    Guinness

    Pukekohe hospitality

    You are a laugh. You do not even know what my disability is. FYI After 2 years of recovery from a wheel chair to crutches, and orthopedics, I still have 3 steel plates in my right foot and have trouble walking but can get on a horse you cynical prick. Thanks for the page promo. See also Riding for the disabled at https://www.rda.org.nz/
  41. 2 points
    stodge

    News from the North(ern) Hemisphere

    A quick look at Friday's action at Newmarket which features the Group 1 Falmouth Stakes over 1600m. Just seven run and TEREBELLUM remains a firm 11/8 favourite. On her Queen Anne run, she's going to take a lot of beating. MAGIC WAND backs up quickly after her fourth in last Sunday's Eclipse while NAZEEF won a Group 2 at Ascot and ONE MASTER is the Foret winner who was second in this last year. It's a decent heat but it's hard to look beyond TEREBELLUM. The Duchess of Cambridge is a Group 2 for the juvenile fillies over 1200m. DANDELLA was hugely impressive in the Albany at Ascot winning by six lengths but the ground was soft and she is by Dandy man whose progeny love some juice in the ground. The Newmarket ground is currently Good. TIME SCALE was a strong winner on the other Newmarket track at the end of June and is on the upgrade. The interesting runner for me is MORE BEAUTIFUL who won convincingly on debut at Naas over 1000m. For those who don't know the Irish track, it's a stiff uphill finish and I was surprised to see Aidan O'Brien run her in the Queen Mary in which she got predictably outpaced. This is much more suitable and I rate her a big chance to overturn the locals.
  42. 2 points
    stodge

    News from the North(ern) Hemisphere

    Before I dish up some nonsense on Friday's racing, I thought I'd remind you all of my thoughts on the Jockey Club from last week. OCEAN ATLANTIQUE is the mount of Pierre Charles Boudot and bolted up in a Listed race last time. This is a big jump in class but from the yard of master trainer Andre Fabre that's less of a concern. THE SUMMIT was second to VICTOR LUDORUM in the Poulains and is a huge each way price at 22/1. However, I think this race is heading across La Manche or the English Channel courtesy of MISHRIF who sidestepped Epsom for this and was an impressive winner of the Listed Newmarket Stakes over 2000m beating VOLKAN STAR who followed up last weekend. I've backed him at 10s against the locals. I mean, I give you the winner AND the second - what more can I do? Anyway, enjoy the race but I doubt you'll enjoy it as much as I did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZKPlVoARc0 With Mrs Stodge's steak and champagne supper secure, I thought all that had to happen was for ALPINE STAR to follow up in the Diane. Well, as the saying goes "the best laid plans" - to be fair, I thought she got a decent ride from Pasquier but whether it was the trip or the ground she just ran out of steam in the final 100m and this enabled Irish 1000 Guineas runner up FANCY BLUE to nick the race on the stick. The Irish 1000 Guineas winner PEACEFUL was third and it confirms the widely-held view that, LOVE apart, the 3-y-o fillies are nothing special so far. I suspect ALPINE STAR will come back to 1600m next time and I wonder if they may be tempted to run her against the colts in the Sussex. FANCY BLUE was young Donnacha O'Brien's first classic winner as a trainer but we can be certain it won't be the last. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL9hXfvHTR0 Just a quick mention of Saturday's big races at Belmont. VEKOMA put up a gutsy performance to win the Metropolitan Handicap and could be a serious player in the Breeders Cup Dirt Mile. MCKINZIE was disappointing and while CODE OF HONOR, the 2019 Kentucky Derby runner up, travelled into the race well, he just couldn't quicken against these specialist milers. I think he'll go back up to 2000m. Finally, INSTILLED REGARD just prevailed in a thrilling finish to the Manhattan over 2000m on the turf. I suspect the placed horses may fancy their chances of reversing the places at the Arlington Million in Chicago.
  43. 2 points
    Baz (NZ)

    WAIKATO STUD - STRANGLES

    I believe the other horse or it's pony stable mate from the different property was actually at the track? Is that true? How many other undetected sick horse's were sold by Waikato Stud and put on trucks over the last few months and dispersed all over NZ ? I feel sorry for the little stable that has incurred the massive vet bills...loss of income and the owners who's racehorses are back in lockdown again after Covid-19 through no fault of their own !
  44. 2 points
    poundforpound

    Handicapping Clusterfxxk again

    So dear old Denis Quirck ( sp ?) was the company accountant .. then he was made the handicapper ( clearly they think the job required no specialist skills ) but dirty Denis got caught by the RIU having a little something on the side... so lost his sweet little number ... but no real or effective discipline resulted ... just shift him across the building to a new job.. then they appoint a retired and not very useful jumps jockey in George Strickland, who won’t ever be on Mastermind .... and George ( who has often claimed handicapping is just formula and model based with no subjective input ) proceeds to give two horses at Riccarton the wrong weight ten days ago, one of whom won by four. A very observant licensed trainer picked the mistake up post race and advised the authorities They did nothing useful The result of the race stands George remains unpunished So does Denis Quirck if that matters Now ask yourself this. If a trainer left a lead bag off what would happen ? If a jockey weighed in a kilo light what would happen ? What would happen to the owner by way of collateral damage ? The punter who’d backed the horse ? Why is it that starters, handicappers, stewards, groundsmen, and all salaried staff for that matter, can do whatever they want, recklessly and incompetently, but they have immunity from penalty, yet every licensed person is bullied and abused without recourse or respect for the slightest indiscretion ? Just asking for a fiend
  45. 2 points
    poundforpound

    Racing Integrity Unit

    Clearly they haven’t factored in my relationships with politicians and Ministers at the absolute highest level. You can’t spend in excess of ten million on a witch-hunt said to be orchestrated by the RIU, in conjunction with a disenchanted civil complainant, and not expect to be made accountable
  46. 2 points
    MAJESTIC

    Nigel McGrath

    It's about time someone got made an example of. Have no sympathy for the cheat. Probably been doing it for years and finally got caught. Sooner they get stuck into others the better.
  47. 2 points
    JJ Flash

    Nigel McGrath

    The judgement identifies/settles Precedent for future rule breakers. That to me is the best outcome of this case. Some may argue he has been made an example of but in the end it was HIM that broke the rules. Others now know what lies ahead if the try and wrought the system so from a deterrent point of view its no bad thing IMHO Greg
  48. 2 points
    One of the structural problems has been demonstrated by latest farcical situation where too many chiefs and it is clear the people in harness racing (ie real skin in game) including the unpaid on club committees elect part only of a board that has virtually no say in direction of the industry, (some may say "just as well")but no influence on the TAB or the Transition "experts" which actually are in control. therefore the whole structure is not working as it should. I have written many letters in last 6 months , and with the exception of manawatu President (many thanks to him) have had no replies and I have used suitable restrained language. Harness racing can survive and develop as in Australia/USA/Canada/Europe. but if the Accountants keep cutting costs in Nz there will be nothing left. Humans will always gamble and enjoy the thrill of winning but growing competition is getting smarter and more visible whereas we are hiding away.
  49. 2 points
    stodge

    News from the North(ern) Hemisphere

    Good to see plenty of comment on Saturday's extraordinary events at Epsom Downs. Starting with the Derby, I won't bother posting a link to the race as other people have. I can't recall if Reference Point made every yard in his Derby or if Slip Anchor did the same but in recent years it hasn't happened. It's extraordinary to think SERPENTINE won a maiden seven days before winning the Derby which makes a nonsense of all the usual trials and form lines. It was a brilliant tactical ride from Emmet McNamara but to what extent was he gifted the race by the other riders? Perhaps they had forgotten SERPENTINE's dam had been an Oaks runner up so he wasn't going to stop though he was weakening in the final 200m (understandably). I thought he handled the Hill and Tattenham Corner superbly and that as much as anything else enabled the horse to skip 12-15 lengths ahead with 600m to go. From a form standpoint, it could be a fluke or he could be a seriously good horse in a mediocre crop. Ordinarily, he'd head for The Curragh for the Irish Derby but that can't happen this year so where next? The King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes means taking on his elders but he'll be getting a lot of weight and perhaps he'll take the staying route so the Voltigeur at York before the Leger at Doncaster and perhaps a tilt at the Arc. Could he be a Cup horse next year? As for the others, KHALIFA SAT was second throughout and did well to hoid on as did AMHRAN NA BHFIANH who rallied back into third on the post. After them, the first five in the betting market occupied the next five places split by less than three lengths with KAMEKO, ENGLISH KING, MOGUL, RUSSIAN EMPEROR and VATICAN KING all in a heap suggesting there's not much between them as the pre-race hype suggested and that none of them are superstars. Aidan O'Brien did of course win with another long priced horse in Wings of Eagles in 2017 and he was retired after a narrow defeat at The Curragh so we just don't know. It was O'Brien's eighth win in the race which is a modern record. As for the Oaks, an even wider margin winner in a slightly faster run race as LOVE powered home by nine lengths. There was so much to like about this performance and for all the tv pundits wanted her to win the Triple Crown at Doncaster, the Leger is an afterthought these days and I think we saw the Arc winner on Saturday. LOVE won this with all the authority ENABLE showed back in 2017 and then some. I look forward to her taking on the colts and perhaps the older horses down the road and on this performance she's have probably beaten the colts on Saturday. ENNISTYMON ran another huge race and if LOVE sidesteps the Irish Oaks, team O'Brien look to have a ready alternative. My guess is LOVE will head for the Yorkshire Oaks and then the Arc via the Vermeille. I'm also sure FRANKLY DARLING will be back at her best on a more galloping track and she could give LOVE more of a test at York but it's hard to see her reversing that kind of deficit. The ground at Epsom was good and fast times (and perhaps front runners) were aided by a tailwind up the straight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utIhKxtcDc
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    Baz (NZ)

    How did that name get through

    Pharr Canal I stayed up for nothing!