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  1. 9 points
    chelseacol

    Radio trackside

    The TAB is slowly succeeding in turning me off gambling..... website debacle, machines on course and at pubs not being fit for purpose, no newspaper coverage, fiasco of form guides being published etc. But the absence of trackside radio has become an annoyance. A few times in the last week I have gone to listen to a race while out and about in the car etc and then remembered. I do miss the Saturday morning 8am show which set up the thinking for the day (the TV offering is 24 hours old, pre scratchings and with variable track conditions often a joke ... as are the selections). Oncourse at Riccarton Saturday I spoke to several people who felt the same way. It just feels like they would prefer to shut up shop ........ (and please no responses saying I am old fashioned etc etc etc - I do 90% of my punting on the phone or computer, and it used to be at a significant level - yes I can source info online etc )
  2. 7 points
    fermoy

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    My horses have raced at Ellerslie,Riccarton,Trentham,Awapuni,Ashburton,New Plymouth,Tauherenikau,Otaki,Te Rapa,Gisborne,Woodville,Hawera,Waipukurau,Wanganui,Feilding,Waverley,Wairoa,Blenheim and Hastings. My top 6 would be Tauherenikau,Gisborne,Waipukurau,Waverley,Wairoa,Blenheim with a special mention to Awapuni's specially dedicated all day access Wellfield Lodge/NZ Racing owners room for anyone who has a horse racing that day where you get a dedicated tote operator,free tea and coffee,subsidised bar and buffet meal,numerous leather couches,window leaners and stools,ample tables and chairs and plenty of TV's etc. This owners room should be replicated on all NZ race tracks.
  3. 6 points
    Those smaller clubs used to waste far too much money encouraging owners and trainers. Much better their courses get sold up and the money given to the metropolitan clubs who know how to run a slick operation without encouraging excess drinking and fraternizing.
  4. 5 points
    If your betting on this , you have gambling issues . Watched some of this while in UK last year , mind numbing .
  5. 5 points
    TurnyTom

    Radio trackside

    Totally agree Chelseacol, They have lost their way, slashed and burned and ditched most of the ingredients we needed. Just amazing. Lower floors have had significant staff cuts yet upstairs remains. The achilles heal is the wiz bang computor. There will be no advances until that item is resolved, time will not be its saviour just increased costs digging a bigger hole All very sad
  6. 5 points
    isn't it called USA racing?
  7. 5 points
    gubellini

    Trainer gone????

    Russell Campbell started training in Rotorua before moving to Matamata. His first winner was Miss Hiawatha at Te Aroha on the 25/11/50. He also trained the very good mare Bellota who won the 1973 Ladies’ Mile, the 1974 South Auckland Breeders’ Plate and Rotorua Travelodge Stakes and the 1975 Foxbridge Plate and Avondale Cup. He also trained Neat who won five races at three and ran second to Young Ida in the 1972 Great Northern Oaks.
  8. 5 points
    scooby3051

    RITA 6 Month Results

    But NONE have gone yet...it seems its taking a long time to get their snouts out of the trough..all the minows were dealt to swiftly..why not the other end too???
  9. 5 points
    Insider

    Trials

    a] When will we know where the trials will be hold in the North during September? b] Will trials still be held at Te Teko? c] Te Awamutu have trials scheduled for 25 August! d] What's the difference between the status of Te Teko and Te Awamutu? Official racing wont take place at either venue going forward, but trials are scheduled for one but not the other. What gives? I know where I would rather trial in August/September, and it certainly isn't Te Awamutu irrespective of the transport costs. Come in Bernard Saundry, the Trainers Association and the Owner Association. Clarity is needed given that I am paying $3000 + per month, not knowing what is happening.
  10. 5 points
    Don't You Believe It

    RITA 6 Month Results

    Because they only made $75m while they paid out $88m - i.e. they are giving more to the codes than they are making. False economics and the merry-go-round has stopped now with Covid in the 2nd half year. Desperate times. Thanks John Allen (and Bayliss, Brown, Hansen).
  11. 5 points
    We're Doomed

    CHCH Noms not left open

    At a time when the powers that be are trying to close down all of the small innovative clubs and pour all of the resources into a chosen few, the lack of leadership and imagination shown by the chosen few is very disappointing; but sadly not at all surprising. You do wonder after all the effort that has been put into eliminating so many smaller clubs whether rita and NZTR have given the bigger clubs the message that they really have to lift their game and they can't expect to just have everything handed to them on a plate. Can anyone name the last innovative race the CJC has initiated? What is Canterbury's equivalent of the Everest? As far as I can recall, the last four or five feature races the CJC has added to their schedule have all been inherited from other clubs.
  12. 5 points
    nomates

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    Waverley does a fantastic job , plenty to eat and drink in their owners room . Stratford at their new years eve meeting used to have free steak sarnies going most of the day for all the stable hands and trainers , looking after the workers at a busy time of year ..
  13. 4 points
    Mikie

    Stratford pulls the plug.

    Despite the advice that I always hand out of never engaging with an idiot I will reply to you Tasman Man No aggression at all, just a question which you answered in a roundabout way That reminds me, you promised to answer me as to why you would carry on business in a rented factory as opposed to one you owned, I'm still waiting. Be 2 months now, are you having troubles? I take exception to the '30 year' comment but then realise that you have no real idea, you just pulled a time frame out of the blue The train wreck that you believe I had an influence on? What influence do you believe I had? If you mean my family I would point out that they served on the NZRA, not the NZRIB, and things were not going downhill then but I doubt you would know that Who said I I long for the good old days? Where did I say I was resistant to change? Who said I couldn't see the train wreck? I thought most of my posts certainly make it obvious that I can see the train wreck I am all for change if it betters the industry, but as yet I haven't seen much action other than cost cutting from RITA that would better the industry. Perhaps you could enlighten me? Do you believe that running 75 meetings at Addington, on Friday/Sundays will result in a wave of new interest? Again, if you are referring to Marlborough, it is not my Club but if you think it is doomed then there can't be much hope for Nelson paying a huge rent, or a 'licence to occupy' as silly old Peter Malone called it can there? You asked what am I doing? Not a hell of a lot really as I have lost interest, plus I have to raise 2 teenagers and provide for 2 others, and in any case trying to fix the train wreck now is a little bit like applying to be Wilder's trainer before his second fight with Fury and missing out, then being asked to step in after 6 rounds of being knocked about and trying to resurrect the situation. Dean's finding that out I'd say Where have I ever encouraged any Club to take legal action? You are making things up as you go along I asked Stables and I will ask you, if Stratford paid for their own land pre-TAB days, and haven't received more than they generated from betting, then what right does Racing have to their assets moreso than the local Community? Try to stick to the point this time instead of making up false allegations as to my beliefs Mikie
  14. 4 points
    voice of reason

    Radio trackside

    no radio sevice is beyond ridiculous words cannot express it ............
  15. 4 points
    Never in my life I have seen a more pathetic display of prelims than the 1st at Ellerslie !! Yeh, looking up horses dates as they run away from you , whoever came up with that idea needs castrating , without anaesthetic , what an absolute waste of time , very very disappointing
  16. 4 points
    nomates

    Ellerslie Preliminaries WTF !!

    I,m surprised they are still showing prelim's , i'm sure they must be able to squeeze in yak race from outer Mongolia in that amount of spare time , so i'm be grateful for what we're getting .
  17. 4 points
    Nerula

    Is now a good time to restructure Clubs?

    I dont live down that way but the difficulties that Race got into I believe was getting involved in building and development. Bob Jones says all developers go broke. I have been a builder and developer and got caught on two specs but many were good and I kept the shirt on. Awapuni built a new stand then got into land development then got hit with a recession. Result sections didnt sell (and really was there a market for them at the time) But a perfect storm nonetheless. Lesson - Clubs should not get involved in things where they dont have the expertise. Land agents and banks are skimmers and take no risk. They can talk the unwary into unwise actions, in fact clubs are sitting ducks. And there is no accountability and that is the major flaw.
  18. 4 points
    We're Doomed

    New season stakes

    Programmes out now for August and Sept and stakes expected to be similar to last year. Bit of a worry that a lot of SI meetings have only 7 races programmed. There are going to be a lot of horses eliminated. Personally I would rather have seen 65s running for $20,000 and open horses for $32,000 and use the extra money to programme some decent 10 race cards, and perhaps a few extra meetings.
  19. 4 points
    nomates

    Ascot Park V's Phar Lap

    Trying to reinvent the wheel trying to put a race meeting on at Ascot Park during winter , 90% of the horses i reckon will have to travel hours as you say , and why would you when you have Ricc and Timaru . Oamaru has been the go to track for winter racing in the lower South Island for years , for a reason , but no , their going to try and get a round peg into a square hole . This just sums up the whole illogical thought processes used by our esteemed leaders .
  20. 4 points
    Perhaps take on the Auckland trotting club as a consultant, they have quite a bit of useful experience in that field.
  21. 4 points
    uneasy

    CHCH Noms not left open

    You get stifled at every opportunity-there is leadership by dictatorship I spoke to Langan, Mills, Aldridge and co and was told that the club chose not to run a 2 and 3 yr old event. Jim Langan didn’t realise there were so many (34) available FFS The open 1200 has to be split those eliminated from the 1400 and 1000m would then have the option to revert to the 1200 Thats how I would do it but I’m only an annoying horse trainer with some commonsense
  22. 4 points
    Baz (NZ)

    Riccarton Handicapping Error?

    So has the handicapper been Fined? Anyone Sacked? Any of the Suits fallen on their swords? Anyone been David Clarked ? Anyone Resigned because they're an unhelpful distraction? Just asking for another fiend.
  23. 4 points
    We're Doomed

    Handicapping Clusterfxxk again

    That Auckland starter who made the cock up did experience fairly severe repercussions. Not sure whether Fiend was just a spelling mistake or you really do know a demon.
  24. 4 points
    nomates

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    By the way Tony , congrats on the stables form . Takes a big man to step back and let the daughter have a crack . I'm sure your still having a large input tho .
  25. 4 points
    Dennis Ryan assures me they will be and the missing Pukekohe day will be included.
  26. 3 points
    tasman man 11

    Stratford pulls the plug.

    I sense a bit of aggro there Mikie , us Tasman men should be more collaborative but NZ racing just ain't like that ! Even tho an enthusiastic , unlike you an Industry bigwig , I think I am doing my bit. I try to spread the love re NZ racing........pay my bills to a few trainers and syndicates , and regularly attend meetings.A small bettor ,since lockdown I have increased my bets by 5 x times as I aware betting on NZ TAB is the lifeblood of the Industry. I think I do my bit...more than the average NZ racing follower .....though I stopped the bleeding just last week on my 'breeding' career. My breeding and partner and I sold our mare for $600.......she was carrying a $15k service fee and had four winners from 4 foals at races. One other died so she bred no complete duds. And what are you doing ,other than posting aggressively on social media ? You and those close to you have been big players in Racing during the steep decline of the industry over the past 30 years.....I sit and watch the train wreck you have been an influence on.Like many you seem to long for the good old days , resistance to change........why encourage the like of Stratford and Avondale to go to court to thwart the Industry [again !! as they have done previous to resist change ] Methinks some racing people have been so close to the Industry they can't see the train wreck ! Its kinda sad ! With your experience you should start with a clean sheet on how the Industry should progress to give it some hope of survival.....accept change is necessary. Sadly your club is probably doomed as one that holds TAB meetings in your home town ! 100 years.....a good innings !And you had the Ranfurly Shield once !
  27. 3 points
    nomates

    Stratford pulls the plug.

    This situation highlights the shitfest that the governing bodies of NZ racing have set in motion . From the first mention of track closures , thru to the Messara report , the underlying theme has been about reducing track numbers as we were seen as having too many , and i agree , but somewhere along the line someone upon high get the idea that these facilities actually belong to the industry as a whole . The idea being that the sale of said tracks would give a small pot of gold to the industry . But i keep asking why does the industry need this pot of gold , simply put , Serious Mismanagement . This pot of gold would fill the glaring hole in the industry funds that has pissed against the wall with as series of ill thought out and poorly managed ideas . The industry bodies have propagated the myth that the cost of maintaining all the tracks we have was a drain on the industry or put another way " sucking the industry dry " . I have yet to get a succinct and clear answer to the one question i and many others keep asking of the those that believe that the industry is being sucked dry , SHOW ME THE FIGURES ? . Even NZTR can produce any numbers to back their claim . They have now withdrawn dates to some clubs under the rouse of them being too expensive for owners to travel their horses to , yet we still have Ruakaka and Riverton with dates , go figure . We now have an industry that is at odds with itself , clubs having dates withdrawn for daring to stand their ground , others threatening legal action . Avondale back racing with 5 dates for next season by agreeing to a consultation process , but does anyone really believe they are going to relinquish their track and funds . My point is that this has all been poorly handled from racings management , they have for many years now treated lesser clubs with contempt , taking previously prime date and highly successful racedays , Stratford's New Years eve meeting was always a successful day for racing as a whole as well as the local community . Why would these lesser clubs ever feel like they belonged to one big happy industry , yet are now are be told for the betterment of their industry they should relinquish their assets . This all could have been managed a lot more professionally and still can . I favour all raceday venue tracks being given a set of KPI's that they must maintain to remain a viable . No if's or but's , no maybe's , you fail to fulfill the brief your gone . Obviously some of the KPI's would be the obvious such as track standard , turnovers and facilities . What all the KPI's would be is for others to decide , but , they must cover all tracks , no discrimination . My only worry there is , having seen the state of some tracks of our bigger clubs since resumption , would they be up to standard . I'm sure others have ideas that could solve these issues , but simply putting a gun to a clubs head isn't the solve . They say " for the betterment of the whole industry ", then the whole industry needs to be part of the solution and work together to find a solution . Not just bully , these clubs have a history that is part of our racing fabric and they should treated with such disdain . If MR B SAUNDRY isn't telling pork pies and that this is not about the "money " , then this should be easier to solve than the industry turning on each other .
  28. 3 points
    Just a question for all race goers out there. On Saturday at Ellerslie all the races were carded one after the other in the racebook, and all other meetings were put in the back of the book. I for one and my friends and owners I had with me with me prefer to have the racebook order in race sequence, as in whatever race comes up next is there when you turn the page. Saturday being Riccarton, Ellerslie, Rosehill, Caulfield etc.... Just interested in your thoughts......
  29. 3 points
    Trump

    Stratford pulls the plug.

    Why is the Govt involved in anything to do with racing anyway? Who runs the All Blacks? Formula 1 ? FIFA? NRL? AFL? Yet you can have a multiple of bets on all of them! FFS, Racing is the only sport named above that has a “Racing Minister” and has a Racing Act of Parliament. Why is there no All Blacks Act? America’s Cup Act? Hockey Act? Etc etc. Horse Racing should be set up and run by Racing People with govt having nothing to do with it. They fuck up everything they put their grubby fingers into. Racing only needs itself. It can utilise/facilitate offshore betting for a fee - and govt have nothing to do with it!
  30. 3 points
    Red Rum

    Race meeting order in the Racebook

    It's a racebook as a guide for that meeting runners , colours , breeding and brief form plus adverts for sponsors , not a full weekend formguide for everywhere . No one can do the form seriously from a race meeting race book for 5 bucks .
  31. 3 points
    nomates

    Radio trackside

    This single decision encapsulates the total lack of understanding of the product and the customer , it says all there is to say regarding the capabilities of those charged with administering the NZ racing industry . I think there will be some form of backflip on this decision , but any savvy business would never have done it in the first place .
  32. 3 points
    chelseacol

    Betting Machines

    This post is spot on. Trying to feed notes into the bloody thing is frustrating. Then navigating between screens takes a while - interrupted at the beginning by it then bringing up a screen saying you just deposited $20 about 30 seconds after the money went in. Which I was aware I had done without being told !! Then large fields don't appear on one screen (WTF) etc etc etc - they are absolute dogs. Thank goodness we still have tote staff on course for those who don't use the phone.
  33. 3 points
    stodge

    News from the North(ern) Hemisphere

    Okay, the weekend gives me a chance to catch up and I've got some serious unfinished business from last weekend in the form of the Eclipse at Sandown which saw the seasonal re-appearance of dual Arc winner ENABLE, still in training as a 6-y-o. She went off favourite but was decisively held in second by GHAIYYATH who made most under William Buick. To be honest, the race went pretty much as might have been expected. Buick got to the front after 100m and had a fairly easy time of it in front. Sandown is a track which favours front runners but the key feature of last Sunday was a strong headwind up the finishing straight. I thought it wouldn't help GHAIYYATH but it didn't help the pursuers either who found it hard to make the ground into the teeth of the near gale. Buick had enjoyed the tailwind on the far side and still had plenty of petrol when quickening off the bottom of the hill. GHAIYYATH won by two and a quarter lengths and he might well have won at 2400m but we'll find that out another day. Not many horses have won the Coronation Cup and the Eclipse in the same season - post race plans suggested the Juddmonte would be the preferred route. York is another track where front runners are favoured but not to the same extent as Sandown. ENABLE ran okay but, to be honest, I have some doubts. She won the Eclipse last year and this was an inferior performance by 5-7 lbs. Trainer John Gosden told anyone and everyone before the race she was "85% fit" and while he occasionally bluffs, this time he was on the money. Time makes fools of us all and while I'm not saying ENABLE is anyone's fool, the question as to whether she has or can retain her full ability at age six is one I'm going to be musing on for a while. No plans for her formally but I suspect the King George, Yorkshire Oaks and then the Arc. JAPAN ran a much better race in third and was a head behind ENABLE. I know they still rate him very highly at Ballydoyle but they have LOVE who is now many people's idea of the Arc winner (she was mine as soon as she passed the post at Epsom). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9bDK0Ke_r0 On a busy racing day, the feature supporting race at Sandown was the Henry II Stakes over 3200m and this went to DASHING WILLOUGHBY and I believe they are considering a trip to Flemington in November. At Haydock, the Group 2 Lancashire Oaks went to MANUELA DE VEGA who romped home unchallenged by five lengths. The field was decimated by scratchings after overnight rain left the ground soft so I'm not certain what to make of this. She's highly effective on wet turf so an autumn campaign might be on the cards. The circus moved on to Newmarket for the July Festival. The opening day is Ladies' Day and to be honest it was fortunate there were no spectators as the rain was incessant for much of the afternoon and that turned the ground to Soft. The opening day feature was the Group 2 Princess of Wales and the rain was perfect for DAME MAILLOT who had been well behind ENBIHAAR on fast ground at Doncaster last autumn but reversed the form in style. She won the Pomone on heavy ground at Deauville last year so, rather like MANUELA DE VEGA above, she could be one for a wet autumn campaign. COMMUNIQUE made a bold effort to follow up last year's success in this race but came up against an improving filly on her ground. At York, the Group 2 Dante saw HIGHEST GROUND, a well-touted type in Newmarket, start odds-on for this post-Derby "trial" but he just ran out of steam on the slow ground and had to give best to THUNDEROUS, a more experienced typical Mark Johnston type, gutsy and courageous in a battle. Both the front two ran with credit. Friday saw a better day weather wise at Newmarket but the ground remained Soft for all they were racing on fresh turf.The feature Group 1 was the Falmouth Stakes for the fillies and mares and favourite for this year's renewal was TEREBELLUM who had run such a fine race behind CIRCUS MAXIMUS in the Queen Anne but this wasn't to be her day. There were two problems for jockey Frankie Dettori, first, the ground on which she was unproven and second, a field made up of finishers. He set the fractions and tried to quicken it from the front and get the others to get in each other's way but as TEREBELLUM hit the rising ground the petrol gauge was empty and she was swamped in the final 150m. The race went to Duke of Cambridge winner NAZEEF who showed tremendous determination to battle up the hill and scramble home by a neck from the fast finishing BILLESDON BROOK who ran another fine race. Let's not forget she won the 1000 Guineas back in 2018 beating Laurens and while she's had a few moderate efforts since, she's always kept very good company and won the 2019 Sun Chariot so she owes her connections nothing and will be a smashing broodmare. TEREBELLUM was third beaten two necks and perhaps the ground was the key or perhaps it was the nature of the field. She stays further and I wonder if connections will think about stepping her back up in trip though 2000m is a crowded market currently. ONE MASTER was slightly unlucky - he was beaten a length in total and fourth and had to switch around the winner which cost her momentum and ground at a critical time. Would she have beaten NAZEEF with a clear run? You can judge for yourselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h9aSq0jZhM DANDALLA had put up an eye-catching performance to win the Albany at Ascot but had to work much harder to win the Group 2 Duchess of Cambridge Stakes. She was reluctant to go in the stalls and while she got home here, I just wonder if the Ascot effort took more out of her than seemed the case. The placed horses, FEV ROVER and SANTOSHA, were coming off maiden race starts so the quality of the form is open to question but it's very early days for the juvenile fillies.
  34. 3 points
    JJ Flash

    RITA 6 Month Results

    I agree Greg
  35. 3 points
    Leggy

    RITA 6 Month Results

    Yes. Total revenue is dead flat. That's post the new platform, with most of the racefields fees coming in, and with the first phase of the betting duty reduction in place. And there's no reduction in expenses.
  36. 3 points
    Scallywag

    oamaru jockey club .....cup bonus

    Oamaru club VERY DISAPPOINTED told pre locked down they would not be racing june or july ...over the last two seasons oamaru ran a bonus for any horse to win the oamaru cup and the winter cup .......60 k last year....during the week the winter cup is reinstated.....and new dates announced.....timaru racing club were granted the oamaru date''''..the 19th of july'''..........you would have thought if common sense had come into it'..oamaru should have kept their date .....and one horse and connections would have started in the winter cup going round for 120k......if BRAINS WERE DYNAMITE THEY WOULDNT HAVE ENOUGH TO BLOW THEIR NOSE....... Isnt Messara a woman's makeup? Isn't Winnie a horse's neigh?...........
  37. 3 points
    Good news for punters - RaceForm, including Best Bets, will be back in time for the new season. https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/ryans-treat-for-punters-raceform-back-in-time-for-the-new-season/
  38. 3 points
    nomates

    RITA 6 Month Results

    There's no teeth left . Still waiting for someone , anyone , been asking this question for a while , to show exactly which tracks/clubs , and for how much each of these clubs has been "sucking the industry dry " . Just the names and figures will do . Don't need rhetoric . The 2 clubs i know of do it almost exclusively thru volunteer effort and grants , got nothing to do with NZTR/RITA . If they have ever got anything it certainly wasn't helping to suck the industry dry .
  39. 3 points
    nomates

    CHCH Noms not left open

    Well Soliloquy , not sure if you are a regular or not , so not sure if you read most threads and therefor are conversant with the raft of decisions made regarding the industry . i'll assume not otherwise you would have seen the raft of decisions made by RITA/NZTR regarding the racing industry , all basically dropped over a week , i hope they took longer than that to come up with them , they were , - Race dates dropped , and some clubs given none , this included harness . - Commentators , in the north island G Simon and A White to do all gallops, harness , greyhounds . The rest let go . - Studio and on course presenters , on course presenters gone except 20 premium meetings per year , 1 in studio presenter the rest of the time . -Newspaper liftouts and Raceform finished . - No in running commentaries for form lines to be discontinued . - Removal of tote operators and replaced with self serve machines . Probably a couple of others if i searched , but these are the ones off the top of my head that for you i will call reversal of decisions . That is what the definition of a backflip is . - Race dates , Avondale reinstated with 5 days , as well some southern clubs that had lost dates . BACKFLIP . Harness was even bigger . - Commentators , T Lee still working , probably will end up staying on , whilst not a genuine BACKFLIP , the fact that other commentators are still working shows that 2 commentators was never workable . So in my book they haven't held their line so , BACKFLIP . - Studio and on course presenters , so far haven't seen a Saturday with less than 2 presenters , actually had three last Saturday for 2 meetings . BACKFLIP . - In running commentaries , now reinstated going forward . BACKFLIP . - Newspaper and Raceform , well Raceform back , how much of that due to the above form being available , how long till some form of newspaper coverage ? My monies on something happening there also . I'll give you this one , at the moment . - Removal of tote operators , well you've covered that one yourself , but , BACKFLIP . So we have a couple , but my point is these were decisions obviously made with very little thought or plan , by people who simply don't understand their product , or clients and participants , with no consultation process to help make an informed decision . You simply don't make this many changes that you have to then BACKFLIP on , even partially , if you have a well informed , well thought out and cohesive plan . Not just grasping at straws . As for the noms situation you only have to look at the number of OWNERS whose horse have missed getting a start when nominated , at all meetings since the resumption . Even this week's meetings , look at the number that have missed a run along with the number of ballots that are going to miss out . I use owners missing a run as they are the ones footing the bill , the horses are ambivalent . Finally as to your final paragraph regarding our organizations putting out plans but they get pulled apart by different , possibly self interested parties , i'm not going to argue with some disagreement within codes , but please if you know where the current plan for the future can be found would you please let me know , actually if you can show me any plan , and i mean a cohesive , intelligent , well thought out consultative plan for going forward and growing from any time in recent history i would be grateful . Until they come up with even a short term plan they leave themselves open for the criticism they receive . Cheers .
  40. 3 points
    Tony

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    An owner with a horse in races 2 and 4 goes to the races. They have had an email saying that they could collect 2 complimentary drinks tickets per horse on the day. The owner watches both horses and is chatting with people having a great time. After race 5 they decide to go and collect their complimentary drinks tickets and are asked " and what races are your horses in". The owner replys "oh they were in race 2 and race 4" That's when the person in charge of handing out the complimentary tickets says "I'm sorry but those tickets are no longer available because those races have been" Yes this actually happened at Awapuni on Saturday. This is taking penny pinching to the extreme.
  41. 3 points
    We're Doomed

    CHCH Noms not left open

    Surely they will split at least one race. It really is time the trainers stood up for themselves, no one else seems capable of doing anything. There is absolutely no imagination or leadership in SI racing. There is so much potential for racing in the South, but it is so poorly run.
  42. 3 points
    Stables

    CHCH Noms not left open

    Dingle, there is a closing time for nominations, you should abide by it. Too many trainers sit back anticipating the nomination time will be extended, so they can study the entries and decide which race would best suit their horse(s)
  43. 3 points
    nomates

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    Don't have to work too hard keeping excess drinking and fraternizing down when there is bugger all patrons on course most of the time . The smaller clubs as a rule get good on course patronage , but the spoiler police can't see it with their tinfoil hats on .
  44. 3 points
    Catalano

    Handicapping Clusterfxxk again

    I see what you did there
  45. 3 points
    poundforpound

    Racing Integrity Unit

    Certainly no problem for me FYI Operation Inca charged me with a criminal offence because I told the truth about this matter...and I suspect because I was an expert witness for two defendants.. I’ve got a lot more truth to tell yet but I’ll bide my time until Judge Neave completes his dismantling of this case ... now Inca has withdrawn the charges against me, not that they bothered me anyway.....it’s hard to intimidate someone who’s just being brutally honest and mocking your incompetence Besides, the RIU effectively breached the suppression orders when they immediately suspended the licenses of all those charged, after the media had announced in advance what was about to unfold...before those charges had even entered a plea... so charge the RIU, why don’t you ? This whole Inca exercise is a disgrace and in terms of abusing the principles of justice and wasting Police resources it’s rivalled only by the Teina Pora murder conviction, which like this “persecution” had absolutely no solid evidence to back it up Note to team Inca... don’t bother threatening me again... I have the right to free speech and your attempted intimidation & bullying of me is only adding to the narrative, in a less than positive way
  46. 3 points
    Huey

    Not from an episode of Faulty Towers

    Happens at a lot of tracks in my experience, once again the problem is because you have people running an industry that don't really understand how it operates. A lot of people in this racing game do horses themselves and after they have raced win,lose or draw they have to take care of the needs of the animal and don't get the opportunity to go and have a refreshment straight away and are then met with this kind of nonsense. They really only seem to be setup for the syndicates who only race the horse. I have found most country clubs to be very good and one of the worst in my opinion at this type of behaviour is Trentham which is usually a very average experience for such a wonderful track.
  47. 3 points
    Just effing unbelievable in this current climate . Not just dumb public relations for your owners but complete disrespect to all owners . It comes across as miserly . When as an industry we are struggling to keep existing owners and trying to attract new ones , they should be falling over themselves to look after owners , not try and save a few bucks . So i am assuming owners of horses in the first to races , run before lunch were expected to start drinking before lunchtime . Without owners there is no horse racing .
  48. 3 points
    Mikie

    Today's meeting

    If the Organised Crime Unit had any spare microphones after Inca Knock Knock (10.30am-ish) Are you free Dean? Not really Phoebe, I have to go see Bernard, apart from those delicious sausage rolls he has Apple Turnovers today. Why, what do you want? (Phoebe) Those guys from HRNZ are here to see you, they have an appointment at 10.40am, I wrote it in your Diary Damn Phoebe, I haven't had time to look at today's Diary. Who is here? (Phoebe) There's a Ken, a Colin and a guy I've never heard of before, he's Peter or Paul (or Mary) or something (Dean) You mean Phil? The golfer? (Phoebe) Tautarangi? No Phoebe, aw hell, his last name escapes me. I'm sure it's Phil but I'll cover, I'll just call him buddy while he's here. But you'll need to cover for me, I'll slip out the back and see Bernard, tell them I'm on a conference call with Paddy Power and Winston and that I'll be free by 11am (Phoebe) No worries Dean ....... ..... ..... 11.30am (Dean) Come in, come in Ken, Colin and buddy, how are you. Sorry for the delay. Busy times, busy times. You know how it goes. Tell me, what can I do for you? (Ken) Well Dean, we're here about this Forbury lot. (Dean) I see, I see ......... Silence Embarrassing silence (Dean) Well, what about them? (Ken) Well, you know, we consulted them by ringing them twice and we told them they can't race any more and when the Dates came out RITA gave them another 10 race days. We look like eggs. Then to make it worse we gave every Club our submissions so they all knew we looked like eggs. Then we issued a Release saying we were caught by surprise by them getting dates which back-fired a bit, made us look like were eggs who didn't know what was happening. (Dean) Ah I see. I remember now. We didn't make you look like eggs on purpose guys. Bernard rang me on Thursday about Avondale and the Forbury dates were a consequence of that phone call (Ken) But we didn't know Dean, and now we've told everyone we didn't know, so now like I said, we look like eggs (Dean) Not on purpose Ken, not on purpose. Just horrible timing, Bernard called me on a Thursday and buddy wasn't due back at work until Wednesday so we were stuffed, couldn't give you any warning (Colin) Fair enough Dean, we understand. We have fixed this moving forward, if you want to get hold of Phil on a Friday or a Monday you can ring the Golf Club and leave a message, Phil has said he will be only too happy to call you back after his round ends (Dean) Well, that's decent of you buddy, that will make things easier moving forward. Anything else? (Ken) Well yes Dean, on the way in we saw Bernard and we had a chat about Code funding. He said he has done his best for us but the most he can let us have is 18.5% of what you've allocated. (Dean) Isn't that enough chaps? (Colin) Well Dean, it means we will have to run races for under $6000 quite a lot (Dean) Well, that doesn't sound too bad Colin, $6000 is a decent winning stake (Colin) No, no Dean. $6000 total stake (Dean) Buga, that sounds low, what should we do about it? ......... ........... ............. Embarrassing silence (pHIL) Eureka, I've got it guys. We will ask some Clubs to race without any funding which will leave more for other Clubs (Ken) Ummm, Phil, you thought of that a couple of weeks ago. The Clubs didn't think it would work. Remember? ...... ...... ....... (Phil) Eureka, I've got it. We will slash the number of races by 50%, that will meant the funding for the remaining 50% will double. Then the stakes will go up (Ken, Colin) Wow, no wonder you can do the CEO's job in 2/5th's of the time anyone else can Phil. You're a bloody genius (Dean) Okayyyyyyy
  49. 2 points
    2020 is slowly coming to an end and yet people with ideas from the 1930s are getting a lot of press coverage.
  50. 2 points
    5 Bucks !!!!! Saturday's book was only $3 bucks !...free to Members ! Fantastic it was too......attendees on the day go to see the 'live racing' so don't want to be at Ellerslie and see a field from Gawler , America or even Caulfield ,when they turn a page! Great to have the meetings at back of book [no America] with the Aussie racing showing quite a few facts,figures and colours. The Riccarton races had that plus a comment on most horses. As to the main purpose of the book Ellerslie ,it had a map of course facilities , plus all food options ,plus a guide to betting ,how to do it plus cost and percentages. It had a list of Jockeys and their mounts ,ditto trainers. It had a summary of all fields at front of book with pool options to bet into it. It had a speed map for 7 races. And it had picks , as well as comments on all horses ..and stats for last 3 starts including trials.! Anyone who took note of picks ,consulted with MGuerins editorial in Herald and Teds tips on BGP ,would have done very well.....as many did ! I've read hundreds of complaints in recent years re the track ,the coffee ,the choice of beer , the choice of champagne ,the loud music ,the commentator , too crowded, too empty ,too many young ones , too many old buggers,the suits ,the white coats , the JCA , the jockeys , the security , the marketing , the signage,the ticket sellers, the SST etc etc, But this is a first.......the race book ! I doubt if there is a better one anywhere !