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  1. The NZ TAB website cannot be accessed from Australia.
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  2. Fizzy, there is a well written story in the TDN on Sat about Mr Abdullah. Probably the best breeder the world has had the pleasure to enjoy his efforts for some decades. The likes of Danehill are one of many impacts he has left to breeders the world over and I think in decades to come, we will fully appreciate the diversity of blood that he created. I have the luck and good fortune to have raced a good mare generations deep in his family and I hope I don’t embarrass myself by not continuing to breed good stock from her. He was truly a master of genetics and a sporting and loyal man enriched with the more honour and and ethics than many in our industry.
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  3. Telegraph should be a full field of 16 runner with most horses having SOME chance! That's what ratings are for.
    3 points
  4. Iraklis

    Yeh boy!!!

    Go DD!!! he's just bin awarded driver of the year in the US is he good or is he good ay ay.... Dexter Dunn, a nine-time winner of the driving title in his native land of New Zealand before the age of 30, has now been in the United States and Canada for two years, and he has been voted Driver of the Year both years. 2020 was an especially rich year for him, in two senses of the word: he was the leading money-winning driver last year with almost $11.2 million bankrolled by his charges, many of whom were voted champions of their respective divisions. In September, October, and November alone in the shortened season, he drove the winners of 26 races worth more than $100,000, including the pacing filly champions in both the 2- and 3-year-old ranks, Fire Start Hanover and Party Girl Hill; the two champions among the older pacing set, stallion Bettor's Wish and mare Kissin In The Sand; champion trotting mare Manchego; and champion sophomore trotting male Amigo Volo. He again won four Breeders Crown races. Cheers Iraklis
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  5. Insider

    BGP News

    There be a good chance then to get “overs” on the ones that they don’t back...LOL
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  7. QCR

    Vale Khalid Abdullah

    And not only did he breed the best racehorses (including Danehill by the way, which he bred and raced before selling to Coolmore as a stallion), he kept them racing way beyond the time Coolmore or Godolphin would retire them, e.g. Frankel and Enable. He must have just loved racing.
    2 points
  8. fitzy

    Vale Khalid Abdullah

    Quite surprising that no one has commented on the passing of this hugely influential owner & breeder. No doubt in my mind that he has been the most influential thoroughbred breeder of the past 50 years. The list of outstanding racehorses he owned or bred is unparalleled in modern times.
    1 point
  9. Nerula

    BGP News

    Our big event of the year is next weekend. We are closing in on 750 Karaka Million tickets. That is 300 more than last year (Year 3). That 300 is more than the total we had in Year 2. 750 is 10 times what we had in Year 1. Even if you don’t get excited for racing or aren’t coming on the 23rd... Hopefully this shows you what is possible when you put the work in. Slow, steady, consistent mahi. It doesn’t just happen. Get it done in twenty twenty won.
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  10. I read the last time there were on course bookmakers in NZ was on January 30th 1911 following the amendment to the 1910 Gaming Act which outlawed them and replaced them with the mechanical totalisator. In the UK, we've had a very different history. The Gaming Act of 1845 basically prohibited bookmaking except at racecourses so on-course bookmakers thrived and in 1961 went into the High Street with full legalisation so we have both on-course and off-course bookmakers as well as the Tote. The bookmakers pay a share of turnover which forms the Levy, a key element of racing funding. Bookmakers sponsor races and own some greyhound tracks. My question is: would you welcome the return of on-course bookmakers in NZ? Would such bookmakers, in competition with the TAB, provide better value for punters?
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  11. Agree with this. The issues look insurmountable. Horse numbers ,especially in Auckland seem to be declining , despite great efforts by a few to keep racing numbers up.....and little opportunity for the 'not quite there ' and slow horses ie most horses. Sales abroad continue and costs continue to rise. ATC's efforts to futureproof the sport with a sizeable nest egg , tho good in theory ,turned to custard and cashing up their city venue and moving into wilderness would only delay the inevitable IMO. Punting figures in the North would appear to be far less than in South where Harness remains strong. Peoples appetite for Harness in North appears low and as ATC sell off more land their earning capacity on their great venue will be limited... A few grass track meetings in summer wont help. Waikato is the booming horse centre as far as thoroughbreds concerned...surely Harness can survive there !
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  12. JJ Flash

    Another P Lamb Shambles

    Ricky seemed to make a good fist of it yesterday. No dramas is all the punters want
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  13. If you’re in Aust, you can be on track or in your car, anywhere, and you can log in to all the betting orgs and all TAB’s - based in Australia. I can’t log in to my NZ TAB account (haven’t used it for 14 years so no matter) and I can’t enter the NZ TAB website. One is not allowed to access it. One is blocked out.
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  14. Gruff

    Trump written off

    After watching the Impeachment ‘debate ‘ i have no doubt the Stench is only just begining . Biden , Harris and Pelosi in positions of power
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  15. Trump

    Magic Millions Sales

    Amazing that MM on the Gold Coast had such an unbelievable sales result so far. Many many horses selling between $1m-$2m and the average well up on last years record.
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  16. Huey

    Magic Millions Sales

    From an NZ perspective you'd have to be pretty excited if you had an Almanzor also , with 3 selling for good money and one making 800k!
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  17. Insider

    Vale Khalid Abdullah

    In my lifetime of inspecting some of the greats, Mill Reef, Brigadier Gerard, Frankel etc "The Prince's" youngest star on the horizon KINGMAN is the best specimen that I have ever seen. The man was a genius when it came to breeding thoroughbreds or upgrading them or he assembled the greatest brains in the industry to make it happen. I remember James Dellahook [way back then!] and wondered where, why and how. All these years later as I look back on "The Princes" thoroughbred empire, I am in amazement and oh so envious.
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  18. Blueanytime

    Trump written off

    Trust the plan???
    1 point
  19. JJ Flash

    Magic Millions Sales

    Grossed 195 mio for 5 days with a Median of 180K. Top priced lot was sold for 1.9 mio. Interestingly WaikatoStud took 8 or so over and Westbury more. Good idea to split them up at sales time and after all that's where the money is.
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  20. They latest board, effectively RITA, were appointed some 18 months ago. After all it is their results everyone is interested in as they were in charge of restructuring the business disaster they inherited from John, Glenda and Co. Any new board is some time away unless the currents dont want to reapply or who are unwanted by Minister Are you stupid enough to offer this sort of nonsense when you openly said earlier you use an offshore betting agency . Hence , NZTAB do not have a monopoly as you and anyone can go somewhere else at any time just as Ozzies can open accounts and use NZTAB. Please do use the ignore function , I'm pretty sure your on a lot of ignore lists already given your continual moaning and unverifiable rubbish you refer to as facts. Its that boring it would make an onion cry
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  21. That's good to hear someone knows how to promote one side of their business successfully, shame that publican isn't in charge of marketing at the NZ TAB. The local TAB Agent threw the towel in as he said after paying all expenses he was earning $4.50 an hour, it used to be in the top 3 Agency's turnovers once upon a good time. Yes the NZ TAB are going real well when a situation like that turns around. I also will judge the new board and management on results once they are appointed. When an Organisation has a National monopoly no customer should be leaving because of mismanagement or customer service and if you truly believe that punters haven't you will no doubt be elected into the NZ TAB Cheerleaders Hall Of Fame. Thankfully this site has a worthwhile addition eg ignore user button as quiet frankly you bore the crap out of me with your uneducated cheerleading views. Happy Cheerleading.they need some poor sap doing it.
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  22. Not only are you a miserable prick but you seem to struggle with facts . Tell us all about these big punters that have left in droves- can you put a number on it and were they a net gain to NZTAB??- and no , guesses don't count You'll be disturbed to know that things are quite rosy from what i have heard and the Pubtab i use is actually doing a great trade with the publican very happy about the increased patronage and returns to him. Turnover results may well be up but as anyone with any sort of wagering IQ would know its much more about GBM's these days . I cant answer about future stakes levels or loans as 6 monthly reports are not out yet. Accordingly , neither can you Further, Racing NZ Board now decides payout distributions to codes so its logical to suggest that failing Harness turnover will result in less stakes to that code which has been punished for poor integrity and governance at most levels. The current incentives, eg bonus bets are IMHO a very clever use of resources and match or better offshore offerings and i have accounts in multiple jurisdictions.. You say you are happy to be using an offshore agency so why constantly moan about the local one on here all the time Your not achieving anything with your current approach that i can see. I'm going to judge the new board/management on results post restructuring - seems the logical thing to do
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  23. Only if we never hear that "Happy Lamb" ever again.
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  24. Very sensible comment, which most people don't seem to have latched onto. The winner was thrown in at the weights. Half the field had no chance. It didn't even attract a 3yo, so there seemed to be little point it being WFA. I'm sure a full field of handicappers would have generated more turnover.
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  25. Bring back Group 1 Handicap sprints, We don't have the depth of horses in this country! Fillies and mares still get the 2 Kilo advantage.
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  26. I did until I opened a betting account overseas. I will give you one thing your 100% the NZ TAB's #1 cheerleader. I give them a tune-up because they continue to cost the Industry lost revenue because of their gross incompetence in understanding how to run a wagering operation and how to service customers. At least registered on & off course bookies in NZ would be another avenue for a punter to try and get a better service. Not saying they might receive that but let's be honest any overseas outfit doesn't have to worry about the competition here. Bigger punters have left the NZ TAB in droves where as smaller punters can't be bothered with the hassle of not being able to bet and collect locally but if that changed to a situation where they could well it's not hard to work out where most would want to bet. Go to your local TAB if you can find one then ask 10 customers if you can find them and ask them "do you like betting with the TAB and do you rate their customer service", if you get 3 to 4 rating them positively then I would be very surprised. I would have asked a dozen punters and everyone one of them rate the NZ TAB as nil with no idea. Turnover might be up but anyone with half a brain can work out why. The same thing happened with an Aussie TAB their turnover more than doubled in a year but they went near broke achieving it. Are race stakes up and has the $45 million bank overdraft come down? Harness on-course turnover was down about 27% to middle December yet NZ TAB tote figures are up 25% in the same area. You don't crow that racing is going through a boom period and get a % swing like that occurring. It's called spin doctoring with figures eg rebates, win assurance and bonus bets all great for the punter but not much good for the Industry wanting a return. Story below on TAB customer service and management at it's best again. Sadly clueless on their customer obligations when doing financial transactions. Only in the business for 60 plus years with an audit and management team who can't get it right. The only broken record is the crap service they continue to give and then expect customers to come back or continue betting with them. Ha ha plead with customers to come back and bet with us yet today you continue to treat them like this. You can't play a 'broken' record but unfortunately NZ still bet with a home grown monopoly' broken' wagering agency.
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  27. If you want to increase business - you increase competition. It’s a simple formula that works.
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  28. Unfortunately they would be incapable of selling beer to an alcoholic. The TAB was set-up for the right reasons unfortunately over the years those reasons were lost due to management incompetence. Monopolies lose any incentive to innovate or provide new and improved products plus customer service deteriorates to near zero which all adds up to the NZ TAB.
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  29. From my understanding, it was always the case that bookmakers return much less to the industry than the tote does, which is why British racing has always struggled for stakes. On that basis you could argue that NZ racing has been better off over the years not having bookmakers. Unfortunately, we now have a dysfunctional and largely incompetent TAB which is incapable of successfully performing its role for the industry, so it may be worth considering alternatives.
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  30. Wasn't it Te Rapa?
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  31. I should think they would be very welcome among punters anyway...and provide much-needed colour and atmosphere to some very bland days. And, surely, competition has to be good for all?
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  32. Nerula

    BGP News

    Hear tell they are turning up with 200k float
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  33. JJ Flash

    BGP News

    Hats off to them. They are without doubt the best thing that has happened to introducing new entrants to the game ever If your on Instagram pick them up. Simply brilliant
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  34. If you go back to traditional dates, Auckland used to hold the Derby on Boxing day, the Auckland Cup on New Year's day and then the Rich Hill mile a day or two later. Mid Jan they held a very low key meeting with $10,000 races, they used to muck around with a low key meeting on Anniversary Day, then the Air NZ Stakes a few weeks later, and the Easter Handicap at Easter. Marton used to hold a decent enough lead up to the Wgtn Cup meeting mid January and then Wgtn used to race Saturday, Monday (Anniversary Day) and Saturday (Cup Day). Now Auckland have retained their Boxing Day and New Years Day meetings without their traditional features. They have added a brand new meeting mid January clashing with Wgtn, with two races that aren't even group races, but still receive $600,000 of industry funding. Wgtn has had to shuffle their meetings and races around to their detriment. The Group 2 Wakefield has had to be moved (attracting a terrible field and in danger of losing its status) and replaced with a listed race, which has attracted a better field than Auckland's $1m race. Auckland then hold a brand new week of racing in March with the Derby and Auckland Cup, and a few weeks later try to hold the Easter Handicap as far away from Easter as possible. So, some may suggest that Auckland has no control over programming, but whoever the mystery person is who has initiated all of these changes they are certainly having a significant impact on the whole pattern of racing in NZ. I'm surprised the Aussies haven't poached them and moved Melbourne Cup Week to January.
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  35. My gripe is that you post 3-4 consecutive messages with no one else replying inbetween. Perhaps heed your own advice and take a break from technology.
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  36. Mike if you are making an effort to communicate your views could you please punctuate it so it looks like plain English. Writing like above is tedious shit, not worth the effort and disrespectful to readers on this site. Oh and happy New Year.
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  37. I'm not surprised you react like you do, youre in the "everything is awesome" brigade , that is of course until it has an impact on you. I've got plenty of skin in the game and had a few race over the summer, so don't try an lecture me from your high horse. No thanks to the Spark sport , its yet another subscription based service for sport , its all getting a bit much for me at my age , I used to just be able to turn the TV on and watch what I wanted, things haven't improved they have only become more inaccessible & an expensive for the average guy like me. While we are at give us a good "bleat" about how much of a good punter you are , you know you want to I can smell your $1.5 shots from here, c'mon don't be shy let us know what a big hotshot you are on the punt, not like I haven't seen a thousand or your kind before.
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  38. Your like a broken record. You must lead a sad miserable life
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