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  1. THE DOGS ARE GETTING TOO MUCH COVERAGE RELATIVE TO THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO RACING. EVEN TODAY WITH TWO TROT MEETINGS ON...... BY THE TIME THE COMMENTS PEOPLE HAVE GONE OVER THE FORM , HANDLERS DONE THE JUMPOUTS . WALKED TO THE START, RUN THE RACE PREVIEWS , COMMENTATORS PICKS , STUDIO EXPERTS COMMENTS AND SUGGESTED WIN/PLACE/ QUADDIE / PICK SIX /RUN THE RACE AND THE OBLIGATORY REPEAT OF THE ENTIRE RACE ITS A HELL OF A TIME FURTHERMORE WE HAVE IT MONDAY/ TUESDAY/WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY/FRIDAY/SUNDAY .
    4 points
  2. Pam Robson

    Closed Racing???

    Clearly, the connections of high profile horses are less likely to be a Covid-19 risk.
    3 points
  3. shaneMcAlister

    Closed Racing???

    Exactly. This is bullshit. We should all be treated the same.
    2 points
  4. Still pushing the same Anti-Winston Narrative LOL, there are a lot more older and wiser people not caught up in the trashtalk about Winston.. they simply see through all the BS being spread by both media and the uninformed!! in fact... some people just dont recognise when they have been HELPED!! and mouth off for the pleasure of it!! ring any bells? as far as the SFO... anyone with half a brain would know this is again meant to undermine the credibility of the party until after the election!! much like what occurred with the Super-leaks but hey... if theres a silver lining in it all, at the end of the Day Winston regardless of win or lose.. I know i voted for someone who threw up a middle finger to all those who doubted him!! and yet still produced results!!l ya dig!!
    2 points
  5. you are rightno other political party would have done that 100%
    1 point
  6. mikenz

    Racing today at Ballarat

    It might a green synthetic course.
    1 point
  7. Baz (NZ)

    Racing today at Ballarat

    I'm gonna go against what the TAB experts tell us and say they're racing on grass!
    1 point
  8. richie

    Closed Racing???

    Owners allowed at Trots at Methven last week with nearly 160 horses racing.HRNZ have come up with excellent crowd control plan.
    1 point
  9. shaneMcAlister

    Closed Racing???

    I think there is heaps of opportunities for racing to have areas of 100 people max. Ie 100 per floor etc. however nzracing has done little planning to allow this to happen. If Hawkes bay had 100 sponsors, 100 owners etc I think that is good. But should be a rule for all clubs to do.
    1 point
  10. Last Sunday featured six Group 1 races in Ireland and France so an afternoon of real quality. I'll start at The Curragh where the ground was perfect and the weather likewise for the second day of Irish Champions Weekend. The first of the four championship races was the Flying Five over 1000m for which 14 sprinters went to post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSB28CDzh5k As might be expected, a close finish but GLASS SLIPPERS is an autumn filly and her target will be to retain the Abbaye which she won last year. You'd be forgiven for thinking, given she has been well held twice by BATTAASH at Ascot and Goodwood this season, she'd be on a fool's errand taking him on again but BATTAASH won the Abbaye in 2017 when it was at Chantilly and has been an expensive failure the past two years and he looks especially vulnerable if it comes up soft or heavy. GLASS SLIPPERS loves slow wet turf and must have a big chance. The question over the form is or are the placed horses - both fillies but KEEP BUSY is borderline Listed class for all she ran very well last time while SONAIYLA was coming back in trip after a third in Group 3 company last time. The fancied raiders, QUE AMORO, A'ALI and EQUILATERAL were all well held with A'ALI especially disappointing trailing home last. The two juvenile championship races started with the Moyglare for the fillies over 1400m. PRETTY GORGEOUS went off a solid favourite after a clear win in the Debutante last month. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot10Vqa7UDc SHALE got her revenge on PRETTY GORGEOUS from the Debutante and it's hard to see there being any fluke about it. OODNADATTA got closer to SHALE than she had in the Silver Flash and while I think the former could be a decent longer-term prospect, it does seem as though the first two are the two top Irish juvenile fillies and perhaps we'll see one or both of them at the Newmarket Future Champions Meeting next month. The National Stakes was robbed of a degree of interest with the late defection of BATTLEGROUND (coughing) but MASTER OF THE SEAS and LUVCKY VEGA brought solid juvenile form to the table. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufsi4CJjqU A messy and unsatisfactory race from where I was sitting. That said, THUNDER MOON got hampered, stopped in his run and still had a really strong turn of foot to get back in front close home which augurs well for the future. This was only his second run - he's by Zoffany out of a Sadler's Wells mare so 2000m at least should be within his compass but that turn of foot makes me think he's a miler in the making. The unconsidered WEMBLEY ran on down the outside and went straight into the notebook - this was his first run on decent ground having endured three or four runs on much slower surfaces. MASTER OF THE SEAS did plenty early on and had nothing left in the final 200m while LUCKY VEGA was anything but getting baulked twice and while I'm not saying he would have won, I think he'd have finished second with a clear run and while some thought after the race he hadn't proved he stayed 1400m, I'm convinced and I hope connections bring him to Newmarket to take on the likes of CHINDIT, ETONIAN and the top British juveniles. The Irish St Leger over 2800m has occasionally had a bearing on Melbourne's Spring Carnival and it was improving British handicapper FUJAIRA PRINCE who shared favouritism with the 2019 Irish Derby winner SOVEREIGN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua4LB0FsZtw SEARCH FOR A SONG regained her title in this race having shown clear signs of a return to form behind MAGICAL in the Tattersalls Gold Cup. It was another tremendous training performance by Dermot Weld which would attain added poignancy in the following days with the passing of Weld's former stable jockey, Pat Smullen, whose charity race, run on this day last year, drew a number of ex-jockeys(both flat and jumps) out of retirement. FUJAIRA PRINCE and TWILIGHT PAYMENT both ran strong races in defeat but it may be only the latter of the front three will end up at Flemington as it seems more likely both SEARCH FOR A SONG and FUJAIRA PRINCE will head to Champions Day for the staying race. The Group 2 supporting Blandford Stakes for the fillies and mares saw a convincing win for CAYENNE PEPPER who was second in the Irish Oaks and whose form with TARNAWA would get an unexpected boost (more below), Back to 2000m seemed to work well for CAYENNE PEPPER and it'll be interesting to see where she goes next. Off to Longchamp at the end of the Bois de Boulogne in Paris for Arc Trials day but a different format this year with the Niel, the trial for the 3-y-o colts, replaced by the rescheduled Group 1 Grand Prix de Paris over 2400m. Ten went to post and this featured the loing-awaited return of the English Derby winner SERPENTINE, who had not been seen since his Epsom romp. He faced a numbe rof those he beat that day including ENGLISH KING and some useful local challengers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OWG-MmYOx0 One or two reputations left in tatters on the Parisien turf - PORT GUILLAUME ran a shocker while ENGLISH KING was never travelling and SERPENTINE's Epsom winner was revealed to be the fluke many thought it was at the time. The English 3-y-o colts look distinctly average and the French little better but for MOGUL this was redemption. This is a horse Ryan Moore has always loved but with Moore at The Curragh it was Pierre Charles-Boudot who came in for the plum ride and he gave MOGUL a beautiful run round and in the end did this easily. I'm to be convinced I've seen an Arc winner - MOGUL has twice finished behind PYLEDRIVER and the latter was held in the Leger so it all reads a bit average if I'm being honest. The placed horses, IN SWOOP and GOLD TRIP, had finished third and first in the Greffulhe way back in June but hadn't much since and with MISHRIFF having won the Jockey Club you're struggling to see a decent French 3-y-o colt as well. The 3-y-o fillies have been a better bunch with LOVE in particular looking like a potential champion but they had their Arc Trial in the Vermeille along with the older fillies and mares. RAABIHAH was strongly fancied. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPuNdUQeeUA An emphatic win for TARNAWA who looked really good on this evidence. She is one of those slow-maturing Aga Khan fillies with which Dermot Weld does so well and on an afternoon where Weld picked up another Group 1 with a filly, this capped a fine day for the master trainer. TARNAWA had won the Blandford last year and on her re-appearance after a 294-day break had beaten CAYENNE PEPPER (this year's Blandford winner) at Cork. TARNAWA heads for the Fillies & Mares at Ascot on Champions Day and must have real claims if the ground doesn't come up too deep - she ran in the race last year and got bogged down in the mud. RAABIHAH ran okay but you had a sense the bubble was burst for that one and with less than two lengths between her and Irish Oaks winner EVEN SO in sixth, the sense for me was that LOVE and ENABLE have little to worry about from the other fillies and, with the defeat of GHAIYYATH at Leopardstown, the older colts either. The current Arc betting in the UK is 13/8 LOVE, 9/4 ENABLE, 12/1 Bar which tells you all you need to know. The Group 2 Foy was the Trial for the older colts and featured the 2019 Derby winner ANTHONY VAN DYCK and the top European stayer, STRADIVARIUS. They were prominent all the way in a race which, predictably , turned into a sprint off the home turn. Barzalona rode a fine front-running race on ANTHONY VAN DYCK out-smarting Dettori on STRADIVARIUS but the two ran their Coronation Cup form from way back in June almost to the ounce. You'd have to think the Arc will be run more as a British race than a French race - with a stronger gallop - and that will help STRADIVARIUS but on this evidence all he can hope for is a place. It may just be the winner, whose limitations have been exposed since his Epsom triumph, is finally getting over those exertions and may yet be a useful older colt. I also thought NAGANO GOLD ran well given he lost ground at the start. Strangely, ANTHONY VAN DYCK became the first Derby winner since HARZAND in 2016 to win another race after Epsom which is incredible. HARZAND was ridden by Pat Smullen whose death at the incredibly young age of 43 from cancer has dominated the racing media this week.
    1 point
  11. meomy

    Closed Racing???

    Viruses are hardly likely to spread in wide open spaces, anyone with half a brain knows that. Indeed Vitamin D and sunshine on one's body with fresh clean air in one's lungs is the best way to retain one's overall well being and keep viruses at bay. Remember when we had free apples and milk in schools together with Exercise drills first thing in the morning? We'll it's time commonsense in Public Health was brought back to where it used to be before the lot of no hopers we have calling the shots. Auckland University allow 300 students in lecture theatres for Law classes. Follow the Science & we will all be having "Died following Science" on our Death Certificates.
    1 point
  12. chevy86

    Closed Racing???

    ?????? Do they eat more? Wear more expensive shoes? Carry 2 jockeys instead of one? By the time they have become Gp 1 quality I would have thought they have plenty of funds in the bin and training fees are a lesser burden relatively speaking. Seems to me that funding and PR more important at the entry level to keep participants in the game.
    1 point
  13. shodsie

    Trump written off

    how good are trumps bacon and eggs going to taste in the morning???? what a day and what a trilling next week or 2 this is going to be TDS is going off the richter-scale at the moment justice roberts just became a 28 handicapper in a field of pga stars will the republican senators have a backbone or will the RINO's bow to the mob very interesting times ahead
    1 point
  14. shaneMcAlister

    Closed Racing???

    That’s seems fair....as a group 1 horse would cost more to train then a maiden.... Maybe just another case of one rule for some and another for others. Bollix. For what’s it worth I can’t see why owners can’t be allowed on course. Why NZracing have not been able to come with an across the board solution. How about a plan going forward.
    1 point
  15. theres a simple answer to that question!!! whichever Party gives NZfirst and Winston the best deal!! that is the short of it!!
    1 point
  16. any track can apply for the PGF.. but the process for acceptance is something separate.... one can moan and groan about course closures, and PGF but as i pointed out they are unrelated!! one major consideration regarding PGF is how well the small business has been doing over a period of time ie..prev 3-5 years or thereabout and noting growth.. this is a criteria now let that sink into your skulls!!! you get it yet???
    1 point
  17. the question of PGF and the issues of Racetrack closures are not related... so justifying one has no direct relationship with the other!! if you knew anything about the PGF you would understand its investing into small businesses to increase employment numbers and overall economy of the area... racetrack closures are a completely separate issue!! but hey if you are not down for small business growth then you will see what occurred with the Racetracks occur in a area near you!!
    1 point
  18. I find myself agreeing with P4P. If the Racing Industry was a punter and able to bet during the running they would be putting all their savings, and borrowing some more as well, on a $100 shot that has just missed the start by 50 lengths. I like to think that article and the heading is a bit misleading. Surely the industry support for Winston is not that widespread? It seems to be a little Waikato clique of breeders and club administrators; plus probably those running Awapuni and Riccarton. I don't believe the rest of the SI are big Winston fans. Last time Winston was in he wasted millions on stakes for five selected races that all reverted back to their original level or lower as soon as his three years was up. So that effort achieved nothing. This time he is using the Provincial Growth Fund to wipe out numerous provincial racetracks, and probably send Awapuni and Riccarton broke, although they are too stupid to see it. It would be interesting to see if Labour and National even have a Racing policy. They obviously consider the industry so insignificant that they don't give a stuff about Winston trying to dredge up a few wasted votes there. I have always given Winston credit for at least noticing Racing, which the other parties never have. It is just unfortunate his actions and policies have always been misguided and probably self centred.
    1 point
  19. Baz (NZ)

    Programming

    Sounds like the Southerners suffer from too much common sense and know what the fuck they're talking about to be listened to or force change !
    1 point
  20. dock leaf

    Programming

    I was one of many Southlanders at the NZTR roadshow in Invercargill last week. Bernard and Jackson spoke about a few things, one being, that punters want the consistency the synthetic track will bring. Kelvin Tyler, Steve Blair-Edie, Jo Gordon and Ellis Winsloe all spoke clearly and strongly against the synthetic track at Riccarton, citing the damage it would do to South Island racing, race programming ie they need Oamaru and Timaru to stay, and funding the on-going maintenance costs of the synthetic etc etc. Everybody else who spoke was against it too (except maybe one, and I don't know what he was even on about). Bernie said their concerns were noted. I don't think the southern participants could be accused of not complaining, but they're probably the easiest to ignore. http://www.theoptimist.site/gallop-south-calls-for-justice-through-constitutional-change/ http://www.theoptimist.site/riccartons-synthetic-track-debate-heats-up-as-roadshow-heads-south/ Jo Gordon said no Southland trainers would move their base to Riccarton.
    1 point
  21. I bet almost exclusively on Betfair on NZ gallops. The liquidity has grown to the point where this is a realistic option if you're a $20 or even $50 per race punter. The markets are however near non-existent until about 5 mins from the jump, so it all happens very quickly at the end.
    1 point